How do we express new ideas for forum moderation?

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Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 738267 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 8:15:23 UTC Where is the proper thread for this? Seems whatever I do to ask gets deleted. Where do normal people go to make suggestions? Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 738267 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 738269 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 8:28:29 UTC Beware all new seti forum posters....even if you make new benign postings you are subject to censorship...... You need to be careful where and WHAT you say. It is subject to censor. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 738269 ·

GalaxyIce Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0	Message 738280 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 10:21:58 UTC Of course we need to be careful, as in any forum, and obey the rules. Everyone knows it, or should do, and we are careful, and we do obey the rules. Don't we? flam ing balloons ID: 738280 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 738282 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 10:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 738280. Of course we need to be careful, as in any forum, and obey the rules. Everyone knows it, or should do, and we are careful, and we do obey the rules. Don't we? Yes they should obey the rules...just like moon and you should ...or the others.. It's essential, son. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 738282 ·

GalaxyIce Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 13 May 06 Posts: 8927 Credit: 1,361,057 RAC: 0	Message 738284 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 10:37:37 UTC - in response to Message 738282. Of course we need to be careful, as in any forum, and obey the rules. Everyone knows it, or should do, and we are careful, and we do obey the rules. Don't we? Yes they should obey the rules...just like moon and you should ...or the others.. It's essential, son. Ha ha, "son". Very good, a play on the moon :) Nice one Scary Capitalist ;) flam ing balloons ID: 738284 ·

Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0	Message 738288 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 10:47:58 UTC How do we express new ideas for forum moderation? You don't. Reality Internet Personality ID: 738288 ·

ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20	Message 738316 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 13:37:24 UTC No point. Don't waste your time. Thread deleted. And all without notification to anyone. Direct all comments by PM or direct to setimods email. I too very strongly disagree with certain actions afflicting what I consider is undue and personally biased censorship. Rules are only worthwhile if they are fairly and consistently interpreted. Regards, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 738316 ·

Qui-Gon Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11	Message 738578 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 21:33:19 UTC There have been threads to discuss forum moderation. Every one ultimately devolved into flame-fests . . . and this one appears to be heading in the same direction. ID: 738578 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 738580 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 21:36:03 UTC Question: "How do we express new ideas for forum moderation?" BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 738580 ·

Paul D. Buck Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0	Message 738583 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 21:38:32 UTC There are changes coming, how well they will work is anyone's guess. For the moment, I would suggest that patience is a virtue ... though, like chastity, it can be vastly overrated. There is awareness, I think, in about everyone's mind that there is a problem ... the trouble is, will the change make things better or worse? Mods were installed because of problems years ago, the addition of moderators created new problems ... one of which is the "rule of silence", though, the rationale is sound, in practice what it means is there is no visibility of the actions and the behavior ... Again, in fairness, the point is to prevent the abuser of the forum to abuse a moderator ... *Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?* ID: 738583 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 738596 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 21:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 738583. the addition of moderators created new problems ... one of which is the "rule of silence" Which was specifically ordered by Admin. The new admin may be the greatest guy in the world. He may end up being DLB of Predictor. None of us knows. me@rescam.org ID: 738596 ·

Paul D. Buck Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0	Message 738614 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 22:17:30 UTC - in response to Message 738596. the addition of moderators created new problems ... one of which is the "rule of silence" Which was specifically ordered by Admin. The new admin may be the greatest guy in the world. He may end up being DLB of Predictor. None of us knows. AH, yes, him ... he still owes me 171,000 and change ... ID: 738614 ·

ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20	Message 738618 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 22:25:57 UTC From another thread 'elsewhere' on the forums which I consider (my own view only) is still applicable: I think there's been a good learning exercise on all sides. You could even include that as part of the science and project research! Meanwhile, the mods do listen, and hopefully positive changes will be made as needed. One step which I think is a good idea is that of rotating the mods group selection. Having the same group for any length of time unavoidably forms cliques. The two-month staggered rotations should help avoid that. And yes, getting your posts "modded" is rather irksome. But then again, consider whether your posting was useful to others or merely there for your own benefit. There's a very good saying somewhere to consider whether your utterance enhances the silence. Otherwise, please consider further or remain silent. The bit about keeping things "American kiddie friendly" is always going to stifle any "adult banter". Then again, I agree that there are other forums far better suited to such banter. You are free to set up your own just as some users have done. Meanwhile, lets keep the science rolling! Keep searchin', Regards, Martin Note: All my own views and noone else's! I speak only for myself. See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 738618 ·

ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20	Message 738619 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 22:27:58 UTC - in response to Message 738614. AH, yes, him ... Ok... So dare I ask for a (very brief) summary of the outcome? Please PM if the comments might endanger this thread! Cheers, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 738619 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 738625 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 22:46:37 UTC - in response to Message 738614. the addition of moderators created new problems ... one of which is the "rule of silence" Which was specifically ordered by Admin. The new admin may be the greatest guy in the world. He may end up being DLB of Predictor. None of us knows. AH, yes, him ... he still owes me 171,000 and change ... He owes much to many people. He moved out of state with the project. I knew the day he set up shop cuz my IP was suddenly banned again. me@rescam.org ID: 738625 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 738650 - Posted: 13 Apr 2008, 23:39:23 UTC - in response to Message 738267. Where do normal people go to make suggestions? After we find them, then we can decide where to send them... ;) (Here's a suggestion: POST BY THE RULES, MOD BY THE RULES.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 738650 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 738684 - Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 1:02:20 UTC - in response to Message 738678. WWJD? He would post by the rules, mod by the rules, and patiently endure persecution from those who do not... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 738684 ·

Red Atomic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 22 Jun 99 Posts: 2624 Credit: 840,335 RAC: 0	Message 738713 - Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 1:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 738684. WWJD? He would post by the rules, mod by the rules, and patiently endure persecution from those who do not... ;) No, he would have gathered 12 friends, then preached his kind of Posting rules then demand change. Join Calm Chaos ID: 738713 ·

Knightmare Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Aug 04 Posts: 7472 Credit: 94,252 RAC: 0	Message 738777 - Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 2:39:25 UTC - in response to Message 738625. the addition of moderators created new problems ... one of which is the "rule of silence" Which was specifically ordered by Admin. The new admin may be the greatest guy in the world. He may end up being DLB of Predictor. None of us knows. AH, yes, him ... he still owes me 171,000 and change ... He owes much to many people. He moved out of state with the project. I knew the day he set up shop cuz my IP was suddenly banned again. Moved it to the University of Michigan if I heard correctly...lol Air Cold, the blade stops; from silent stone, Death is preordained Calm Chaos Forums : Everyone Welcome ID: 738777 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 738795 - Posted: 14 Apr 2008, 3:11:11 UTC - in response to Message 738713. Last modified: 14 Apr 2008, 3:12:49 UTC No, he would have gathered 12 friends, then preached his kind of Posting rules then demand change. Obviously, someone hasn't read his rule book... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 738795 ·

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