I have been asked for advice,but I thought it would be better to open it up to the forum.
[quote]I have a Q6600 that is limited in what I can do on overclocking at the very least by the motherboard and I'm sure by other factors. The motherboard is an ASUS P5B SE and all I have access to in the BIOS for overclocking is a selectable percentage. I have it at 20%. The option is there for 30% but it is unstable as I can't adjust any other parameters to improve stability[/quoted]
Ilooked up the p5b board and it seems to be lacking.I'm happy with my p5k.But I have no Knowlege of other boards.

I have been asked for advice,but I thought it would be better to open it up to the forum.
[quote]I have a Q6600 that is limited in what I can do on overclocking at the very least by the motherboard and I'm sure by other factors. The motherboard is an ASUS P5B SE and all I have access to in the BIOS for overclocking is a selectable percentage. I have it at 20%. The option is there for 30% but it is unstable as I can't adjust any other parameters to improve stability[/quoted]
Ilooked up the p5b board and it seems to be lacking.I'm happy with my p5k.But I have no Knowlege of other boards.

I am using a P5K-VM. My q6600 is running nice and stable at just over 3.0 GHZ at about 46 deg C. I picked the board for its onboard video and because i found it on ebay for about $85 including shipping. Everything on the BIOS is user changeable. The only reason I might go for something different on my next one is because you cant OC using the AI suite in windoze..only from BIOS

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[quote The only reason I might go for something different on my next one is because you cant OC using the AI suite in windoze..only from BIOS[/quote]
I think the AI suite is overated and prefer using bios.

I have a couple P5Bs running, if I remember correctly, you have to go into the Jumper Free configuration menu and change AI Tuning to Manual to allow setting all of the individual parameters. If you don't, that's when you get the percentage stuff.

-Dave

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I have been asked for advice,but I thought it would be better to open it up to the forum.
[quote]I have a Q6600 that is limited in what I can do on overclocking at the very least by the motherboard and I'm sure by other factors. The motherboard is an ASUS P5B SE and all I have access to in the BIOS for overclocking is a selectable percentage. I have it at 20%. The option is there for 30% but it is unstable as I can't adjust any other parameters to improve stability[/quoted]
Ilooked up the p5b board and it seems to be lacking.I'm happy with my p5k.But I have no Knowlege of other boards.

I've got my Q6600 on a...
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L [$90+SH] with easy 3200 OC [8x400MHz]
Kingston ValueRAM KVR800D2N5K2/2G PC2-6400 CL5 runs at 1000MHz [2x500MHz]

Good luck,
John

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I have a couple P5Bs running, if I remember correctly, you have to go into the Jumper Free configuration menu and change AI Tuning to Manual to allow setting all of the individual parameters. If you don't, that's when you get the percentage stuff.

-Dave

This is correct.

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I agree with OzzFan

I have a QX6,700 on an Asus P5B MoBo. The motherboard has limits to it's O/Cing capabilities which the newer P5X series address. The newer the MoBo the more the scope for O/Cing

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It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues

I have a couple P5Bs running, if I remember correctly, you have to go into the Jumper Free configuration menu and change AI Tuning to Manual to allow setting all of the individual parameters. If you don't, that's when you get the percentage stuff.

-Dave

I do know what you are saying about Auto vs. Manual vs. Overclocking Profiles (I think it is). However, in Manual, I only have two items that I can change. I can change FSB frequency (100 to 500) and Memory Voltage (either 1.80V or 1.90V). I don't have any control over core voltage or any other memory settings like FSB:DRAM ratio or timing parameters. If it is not stable, my only option is to lower the FSB freq.

Is this the same that you see?

I am looking for another mobo that will provide a bit more in the way of hands-on adjustment.

I am looking for another mobo that will provide a bit more in the way of hands-on adjustment.

I run a Q6600 and an E6600 in Gigabyte 965P-DS3 motherboards.

There is a quirk or two--they wre balky about actually turning on the graphics every time on even slightly overclocked boots until I raised a chipset voltage I would not have thought needed it, and the North Bridge gets so hot I kludged in a tiny fan out of conservatism.

But lots of folks have used this board to overclock Conroes, so you can find bunches of online commentary and advice. It is very adjustable (though you need the special keying to get at some of the RAM parameters), not too expensive, and has "solid" capacitors that may make it more reliable.

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I have a couple P5Bs running, if I remember correctly, you have to go into the Jumper Free configuration menu and change AI Tuning to Manual to allow setting all of the individual parameters. If you don't, that's when you get the percentage stuff.

-Dave

I do know what you are saying about Auto vs. Manual vs. Overclocking Profiles (I think it is). However, in Manual, I only have two items that I can change. I can change FSB frequency (100 to 500) and Memory Voltage (either 1.80V or 1.90V). I don't have any control over core voltage or any other memory settings like FSB:DRAM ratio or timing parameters. If it is not stable, my only option is to lower the FSB freq.

Is this the same that you see?

I am looking for another mobo that will provide a bit more in the way of hands-on adjustment.

That doesn't sound like my P5B at all. I can get at all the parameters I need.

F.

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I do know what you are saying about Auto vs. Manual vs. Overclocking Profiles (I think it is). However, in Manual, I only have two items that I can change. I can change FSB frequency (100 to 500) and Memory Voltage (either 1.80V or 1.90V). I don't have any control over core voltage or any other memory settings like FSB:DRAM ratio or timing parameters. If it is not stable, my only option is to lower the FSB freq.

Is this the same that you see?

I am looking for another mobo that will provide a bit more in the way of hands-on adjustment.

That doesn't sound like my P5B at all. I can get at all the parameters I need.

F.

I think it is all about the version of P5B. I have a P5B SE. I had a hard time locating it even on the ASUS site. It doesn't come up when you do a search of P5B boards. It is a P965 chipset.

Here is the only thing listed about O.C. in the spec list.

Overclocking Features

SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection)
- FSB tuning from 100MHz up to 500MHz at 1MHz increment
ASUS O.C. Profile
ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)

P5B SE Specs

Well, I just took a look on their web site and downloaded a copy of the manual for the SE version. It looks like you can also play with the multiplier under the CPU Configuration settings, and under chipset, for the Northbridge, you can control the memory timings and frequency. What's interesting is that it doesn't look like you can set or control the CPU Vcore voltage, that's what may be holding you back with this particular board. I run the P5B Plus and P5B Deluxe WiFi, both of those have more flexibility in the bios than the SE version from what I'm seeing.

-Dave

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Well, I just took a look on their web site and downloaded a copy of the manual for the SE version. It looks like you can also play with the multiplier under the CPU Configuration settings, and under chipset, for the Northbridge, you can control the memory timings and frequency. What's interesting is that it doesn't look like you can set or control the CPU Vcore voltage, that's what may be holding you back with this particular board. I run the P5B Plus and P5B Deluxe WiFi, both of those have more flexibility in the bios than the SE version from what I'm seeing.

-Dave

************** Hi Dave, ********************
I've ordered a ASUS A5E, has good OC possebillity options, also waiting for a QX 9775 . I tell more, when everything runs, dont even know what OS , maybe WIN XP & LINUX's Gutsy Gibbon Ubuntu 7.10.
Two options, well, w 'll see

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Well, I just took a look on their web site and downloaded a copy of the manual for the SE version. It looks like you can also play with the multiplier under the CPU Configuration settings, and under chipset, for the Northbridge, you can control the memory timings and frequency. What's interesting is that it doesn't look like you can set or control the CPU Vcore voltage, that's what may be holding you back with this particular board. I run the P5B Plus and P5B Deluxe WiFi, both of those have more flexibility in the bios than the SE version from what I'm seeing.

-Dave

************** Hi Dave, ********************
I've ordered a ASUS A5E, has good OC possebillity options, also waiting for a QX 9775 . I tell more, when everything runs, dont even know what OS , maybe WIN XP & LINUX's Gutsy Gibbon Ubuntu 7.10.
Two options, well, w 'll see

Fred, is that an A5E or a P5E?

My eyes are red from reading reviews. Just like anything with computers, if I wait until I know everything that I'd like to know and get a true concensus of reviews, everything that I'm considering will be out of date.

I am going to go with an ASUS P5K Deluxe. It doesn't have the latest X38 or X48 chipsets but I'm not ready to get that close to the leading edge. While there are always some issues with any board, it seems that the overall opinion of the P5K is very positive. I've also looked at the pros and cons for this and other boards and weighed those against what is important for me and what isn't.

Now, as a reward for making that decision, I now get to go through it all over again on a power supply, memory and etc.

Thanks everyone for the input.

I'm looking at an Asus P5KC, Why? It will do either DDR2 or later DDR3 and It can be overclocked. Would It be better than the Abit AW9D-MAX that I have now? I think so and It would cost Me less less than $150 total.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

I'm looking at an Asus P5KC, Why? It will do either DDR2 or later DDR3 and It can be overclocked. Would It be better than the Abit AW9D-MAX that I have now? I think so and It would cost Me less less than $150 total.

I looked at that one as well. The two reasons that I am leaning toward the P5K are:

1. I know that it will be a while before I invest in DDR3 RAM. By that time, I'll probably want to go to a X38 or X48 or ... Knowing myself, I don't see me just upgrading my RAM.
2. I was a little concerned about the shortness of the memory Qualified Vendor List for the P5KC, especially for DDR2 where I know that I would have started rather than with DDR3.

If budget is not an object, I would recommend the Asus P5K Deluxe or the Formula Maximus for those that still wish to use their DDR2 RAM...........
The P5K Deluxe I have running on my phased quaddy, and I would truly like to try the Maximus if my own budget were not toaste, as it has be getting a lot of good comments on the OCing forums.......

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

If budget is not an object, I would recommend the Asus P5K Deluxe or the Formula Maximus for those that still wish to use their DDR2 RAM...........
The P5K Deluxe I have running on my phased quaddy, and I would truly like to try the Maximus if my own budget were not toast, as it has be getting a lot of good comments on the OCing forums.......

What type of Toast was that? Burnt, Frozen or Soggy? ;)

Oh and the P5KC would be $155.10 shipped to Me and that doesn't include any tax which might make It $166.99 or so, If It did, As to ram I'd have to try the Corsair ram(PC2-6400) and the Patriot(PC2-8500) that I have, I'd think one or the other would work. Of course It's a many months away with My budget, Just for an upgrade, But It is the next Item I save up for most likely.

My budget is so fried It isn't funny, My bank account is overdrawn by $89.96(a March expense) and My phone and TV are a bit behind won't be caught up until April and that was just so I could get the Q6600 rev B3 cpu(45C @ 2.6GHz). But I'll survive, I always do, Even with No phone and internet due to some contractor cutting some Fiber optic cable till 2:28pm today(It knocked out the whole High Desert, so We here had our own outage).

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

If budget is not an object, I would recommend the Asus P5K Deluxe or the Formula Maximus for those that still wish to use their DDR2 RAM...........
The P5K Deluxe I have running on my phased quaddy, and I would truly like to try the Maximus if my own budget were not toast, as it has be getting a lot of good comments on the OCing forums.......

What type of Toast was that? Burnt, Frozen or Soggy? ;)

Oh, the toaste is getting quite crispy........burnt in the middle, and flaming on the edges........
Flambe, you might say......

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster