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Message 572878 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 16:29:26 UTC

hey everybody... I was searching facebook for SETI groups - and came across this group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2221375114
... it's called "SETI has made contact"

within the group, linked on the front page, there's a link to the following:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5793453751420599744

what's going on? is this a hoax?


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Message 572890 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 16:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 572878.  
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hey everybody... I was searching facebook for SETI groups - and came across this group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2221375114
... it's called "SETI has made contact"

within the group, linked on the front page, there's a link to the following:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5793453751420599744

what's going on? is this a hoax?


Did you see it on the 5 o'clock news being broadcast simultaneously from all news services, wire services, and in every country...I think not.

In other words, yes is the correct response to your question. Scientiists would want to confirm, re-confirm, and re-re-confirm anthing like
that before releasing it to the media...remember cold fusion?

I think that video is taken out of context from a September, 2004 unconfirmed report which remained unconfirmed, therefore invalid.
If I am wrong in any specifics, please feel free to give any undated information.


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Message 572893 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 16:54:32 UTC

First thing to remember is that SETI is different than SETI@Home.

I heard this discussed a couple of months ago on Coast to Coast. What little I remember is that the speaker wasn't all that believable, at least to me.


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Message 572901 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 17:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 572893.  
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First thing to remember is that SETI is different than SETI@Home.

I heard this discussed a couple of months ago on Coast to Coast. What little I remember is that the speaker wasn't all that believable, at least to me.


I agree.

EDIT: That guy on Coast to Coast was (to me) as about as believable as that rediculous "Disclosure Project" with Dr. Greer.



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Message 572905 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 17:09:06 UTC

When someone stands at the head of the room with a microphone they almost always has an agenda. Folks with agendas have been known to occasionally fib.

My observation: anyone who steps up to the microphone is a politician of sorts. Believe accordingly.

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Message 572908 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 17:10:10 UTC
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I saw that too Melt, But I had already made up my mind about Dr. Steven M. Greer

The Disclosure Project was a big help in my decision. Pay close attention to this pageScroll down to the part where you can make Monthly tax deductable donations. He's kidding, right? Who is donating $1000/Month?
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Message 572909 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 17:10:11 UTC - in response to Message 572905.  

When someone stands at the head of the room with a microphone they almost always has an agenda. Folks with agendas have been known to occasionally fib.
My observation: anyone who steps up to the microphone is a politician of sorts. Believe accordingly.

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Message 572918 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 17:13:30 UTC - in response to Message 572908.  

I saw that too Melt, But I had already made up my mind about Dr. Steven M. Greer

The Disclosure Project was a big help in my decision. Pay close attention to this pageScroll down to the part where you can make Monthly tax deductable donations. He's kidding, right? Who is donating $1000/Month?




that's interesting, Pawly! I was unaware of this "Disclosure Project" - within two seconds of glancing at the page, I could tell it was a bogus money-making scheme.


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Message 572921 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 17:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 572905.  

When someone stands at the head of the room with a microphone they almost always has an agenda. Folks with agendas have been known to occasionally fib.

My observation: anyone who steps up to the microphone is a politician of sorts. Believe accordingly.


One thing the speaker refers to is that the signals are extraterrestrial in origin. He doesn't specify intelligent signals, nor that they originate from another star system etc.... i.e not from earth , so yes they can be satellites, deep space probes and distant radio sources.

As you suggest, microphone suggests 'Agenda', and 'Agenda' suggests money grab. I would like to see the rest of the speech in context before I get too excited.

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Message 573630 - Posted: 22 May 2007, 10:41:12 UTC


WE arE NOT ALONe . . . (.)


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Message 574181 - Posted: 23 May 2007, 3:23:02 UTC - in response to Message 573630.  


WE arE NOT ALONe . . . (.)



Here is my issue. That group charges alot of money for membership (not donations) and for half made DVD's.

If the main STETI or other sub SETI groups made any discovery, it would be a long process of confirming, re-running codes, confirming again, rescanning, before anything is said.

Are humans really ready for that kind of information all at once? It would begin to leak out once confirmed so we don't media shock the world. However the video claimed SETI is holding back info, but had no evidence. It was simply an attention grabbing scheme.
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Message 574231 - Posted: 23 May 2007, 5:36:51 UTC - in response to Message 574181.  

Are humans really ready for that kind of information all at once?

Yes... Ever since the 1940s... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 574397 - Posted: 23 May 2007, 13:51:14 UTC - in response to Message 574231.  

Are humans really ready for that kind of information all at once?

Yes... Ever since the 1940s... ;)


Not everyone is ready an open to it. Religous groups will fight it and cause issues. They will claim it is against gods word. However it is our own ignorance to believe we are his/hers only creations. However they would not be silent in the matter.

Knowing we are not alone and UFO's are possibly real. What threat does it pose? Politicians and governments will ahve to rethink thier positions in thsi universe. Are some species a threat to us?

We could only hope world governments would unite since we now need to think on a global scale. Our world among many. However ther is still alot of economic and political greed. Who is intitled to colonize mars? Who will represent earth?

Techology and the stride to explore would increase even faster. Unless unified it would become a battle rather then be a success.

There seems to be more to the known story indeed. Was alien technology recovered by our government and others? Would help explain sudden advances in techology. Yet how open are they to it?
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Message 574420 - Posted: 23 May 2007, 14:55:55 UTC - in response to Message 574397.  

for what it's worth:

I'm ready! ready as I'll ever be! let's embrace out interstellar brethren!


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Message 595847 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 14:30:21 UTC



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Message 595848 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 14:32:13 UTC



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