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Message 530728 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 5:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 530721.  
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Yeah, I've got a feeling Seti may have to raise the limit some as most of the C2D and C2Q cpus can be overclocked to in excess of 3GHz, I just have to replace a NB heatsink just to get the 5th PC working, That is If the NB chip isn't damaged.


Oh, that reminds me...

Regarding your question about your cranky Abit. I googled the post code you mentioned and found an Abit FAQ link which indicated possible causes as too high an OC, or a bad BIOS chip (shudder).

It wasn't clear to me, not having an Abit around that new, if that would apply in your case. It looked like it was for interpreting the output from the "Guru" card. You said you reset the CMOS, did you try having it load the factory BIOS defaults explicitly?

In any event, neither a poofed BIOS PROM or a fried NB is something that makes the doctor happy-happy. :-(

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Message 530741 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 6:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 530709.  

FWIW, there's an SG machine back in the RAC top twenty again. It's probably a good thing it doesn't have contemporary PC core speeds (at least from a SAH crunching POV), otherwise with 127 or more cores it would spend most its time twiddling its thumbs waiting for a new quota day to start. :-)

Thinking about it, at this rate it won't be too much longer before quota exhaustion becomes the limiting RAC factor on PC's either. ;-)

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I thought that the quota was 100/cpu/day. Wouldn't that give the SG a daily quota of 12,700 WU's? And my quad a limit of 400? Or am I wrong about the quota limit?

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Message 530751 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 7:05:47 UTC - in response to Message 530741.  

FWIW, there's an SG machine back in the RAC top twenty again. It's probably a good thing it doesn't have contemporary PC core speeds (at least from a SAH crunching POV), otherwise with 127 or more cores it would spend most its time twiddling its thumbs waiting for a new quota day to start. :-)

Thinking about it, at this rate it won't be too much longer before quota exhaustion becomes the limiting RAC factor on PC's either. ;-)

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I thought that the quota was 100/cpu/day. Wouldn't that give the SG a daily quota of 12,700 WU's? And my quad a limit of 400? Or am I wrong about the quota limit?



No you're correct. Realistically speaking the SG would only be able to process at max 82 WU's per day...at least that's what the math says at standard WU size...however I'd put it at between 60-150 WU's per day in practice depending on the size and quantity of the WU's that they give it. My machine on the other hand has hit the glass ceiling on several occasions with over 400 WU's per day, so realistically speaking the supped up quad is more prone to quota limits then the SG would ever be.

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Message 530752 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 7:09:53 UTC - in response to Message 530741.  
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FWIW, there's an SG machine back in the RAC top twenty again. It's probably a good thing it doesn't have contemporary PC core speeds (at least from a SAH crunching POV), otherwise with 127 or more cores it would spend most its time twiddling its thumbs waiting for a new quota day to start. :-)

Thinking about it, at this rate it won't be too much longer before quota exhaustion becomes the limiting RAC factor on PC's either. ;-)

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I thought that the quota was 100/cpu/day. Wouldn't that give the SG a daily quota of 12,700 WU's? And my quad a limit of 400? Or am I wrong about the quota limit?


It was my understanding that the limit was, as msatter states, 100 WUs/CPU/day, but limited to 400 per machine. As you have a Quad, the 4 CPU limit applies. However, for machines with more than a Quad the 400 WU limit still applies!

Anyone know differently?
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Message 530759 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 8:09:30 UTC

Ok Here's a couple of updated RAC's from My cpus:

PC1 5,017.72 QX6700
PC2 1,420.68 Opteron 165
PC3 2,253.05 2-Opteron 270's
PC4 4,644.71 QX6700

I'd post one of PC5, But I'm having problems with the NB as It has a aftermarket NB heatsink that may not be making enough contact and so I have to replace the NC-U6 with an HR-05, the motherboard is an AW9D-MAX and the cpu is an E4300 and the LED readout stops at 9.0. and won't continue to boot and I have changed the ram too.

* Abit AW9D-MAX motherboard(1.3 Bios),
* 1-PC2-3200 1.8v Dimm(256MB)[Temporary Ram],
* Vigor Monsoon II TEC cpu cooler for LGA775,
* Intel E4300 1.80GHz cpu,
* OCZ 700w EPS12v Power Supply,
* MSI 6200TC 16x PCI Express Video Card w/128MB ram,
* Thermaltake Mambo Mid-Tower ATX case,
* Noctua NC-U6 northbridge heatsink,
* Spire SP-Soundpad foam insulation,
* WD 36Gb Raptor
* Lite-On SHD-16P1S Black DVD/CD drive,
* 2-Thermaltake 120x25mm 54cfm fans(1-Intake fan, 1-exhaust fan),
* Dell 15" LCD Monitor,
* Microsoft 3 Button usb Optical mouse,
* BTC keyboard & ps/2 to usb adapter.
* 2-OCZ Platinum PC2-6400 512MB Dimms(1GB)[Not here yet]

I'm starting to think the problem is the New NB heatsink, I may have to spend another $25.65 for a Thermalright HR-05 which should work better(On the 30th as that is when I should have enough to do that).


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Message 530763 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 9:10:13 UTC

Ab bit more then 1100RAC on my AMD Athlon64 4400+@2500MHz Running Simons Client.
I think 1200 would be possible if i won't do anything else on this Machine.
Differences to other X2 Systems might be found in the 250MHz RAM, if I remove the 2nd Gigabyte i would be able to run 1T and CL2,5 should be about 100RAC more.
Looks like a fast Memmory interface is important to the old S939 CPUs.
In a few days I'll be able to test how mutch difference the bigger L2 Cache compared to other X2 CPUs does. Borrowed an 3800+ X2 to my little Brother, hope I'll get it back soon.
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Message 530957 - Posted: 14 Mar 2007, 0:27:20 UTC
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C2D E4300 @ 2.43GHz (FSB 270, 2x512MB DDRII667MHz memory @ 1:1 freq, 4T CAS and 1T command rate) - 1750 RAC.
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Message 531804 - Posted: 15 Mar 2007, 23:16:22 UTC
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I realize this is nothing to brag about compared to others : my mac mini duo core is at 195.80 after about a week. It is only 1.83 Ghz but on 60+ credit units it does them in a decently respectable ~12000 cpu time.

What I think is cool about it is that it runs two tasks at the same time and runs them both faster than my iMac G5 runs equivalent WUs. Its like having 3 computers in the space of 2. I'm thinking about buying another mini just for crunching.
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Message 531813 - Posted: 15 Mar 2007, 23:31:18 UTC

Almost managed a RAC of 1000 on my C2D 1.66GHz, Running Chicken 2.2B. Electric costs will stop me keeping it going all the time though. There is probably more but it will have to stay untouched.
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Message 531855 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 0:16:27 UTC
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Mine is down a bit at the moment as my machine is in high use mode right now...

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Message 531865 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 0:28:07 UTC

My iMac T7600 (2.33 ghz Core 2 Duo mobile) topped out at with a RAC of 2500, using alexkan's latest version for Core 2. It's now running several different projects, so its RAC is way down now.

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Message 531990 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 4:12:47 UTC

zombie67, since you have an intel mac maybe you can shed light on a problem I just ran into with trying to use Alex Kan's core 2 app and BOINC 5.8.15. On my G5 imac (BOINC 5.4.9) I just downloaded Alex's app for the G5 and copied the app and the app_info.xml file into the seti project file and had no trouble getting BOINC to run the new app.

On my mac mini, I loaded BOINC 5.8.15 (the latest as of 1 week ago). When I downloaded Alex's app for intel macs and copied it and the .xml file into the seti project folder, BOINC complained that the permissions were not right and would not run. When I CHOWN'd the owner of the ALEX app and .xml file to boinc_manager, BOINC quit complaining about permissions but did not seem to see Alex's app.

Are there special steps for installing Alex's apps on Intel Macs or under BOINC 5.8.15 versus 5.4.9??? Anyone.

Sorry if this is not the correct place for this post. There just are not many mac users here.
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Message 532142 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 12:11:39 UTC - in response to Message 531990.  

zombie67, since you have an intel mac maybe you can shed light on a problem I just ran into with trying to use Alex Kan's core 2 app and BOINC 5.8.15. On my G5 imac (BOINC 5.4.9) I just downloaded Alex's app for the G5 and copied the app and the app_info.xml file into the seti project file and had no trouble getting BOINC to run the new app.

On my mac mini, I loaded BOINC 5.8.15 (the latest as of 1 week ago). When I downloaded Alex's app for intel macs and copied it and the .xml file into the seti project folder, BOINC complained that the permissions were not right and would not run. When I CHOWN'd the owner of the ALEX app and .xml file to boinc_manager, BOINC quit complaining about permissions but did not seem to see Alex's app.

Are there special steps for installing Alex's apps on Intel Macs or under BOINC 5.8.15 versus 5.4.9??? Anyone.

Sorry if this is not the correct place for this post. There just are not many mac users here.


Unfortunatly the same instructions for an old non Intel machine are ther very same as the instructions for the intel mac...just get the correct verision not the PPC version and you should be good...also repair you permissions completely otherwise start a new thread and before long you will have a wealth of infomation...

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Message 532150 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 12:37:31 UTC

Update on a dual core

Pentium D 940

Chicken V2.0 RAC 1100
Chicken V2.2B RAC 1342

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My team with 7 active pc's

Chicken V2.0 RAC 2700
Chicken V2.2B RAC 3500

Don't know what they did with the 2.2B but what a difference!!!
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Message 532151 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 12:40:41 UTC

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RAC 1600: average as i use this PC during office hours

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Message 532190 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 14:43:45 UTC - in response to Message 531990.  

On my mac mini, I loaded BOINC 5.8.15 (the latest as of 1 week ago). When I downloaded Alex's app for intel macs and copied it and the .xml file into the seti project folder, BOINC complained that the permissions were not right and would not run. When I CHOWN'd the owner of the ALEX app and .xml file to boinc_manager, BOINC quit complaining about permissions but did not seem to see Alex's app.


No difference installing alexkan's application, for any of the 5.x versions of BOINC.

1) Be sure you are using his Core (not core 2) application.

2) I've had the permission problem in the past. Be sure you quit BOINC before fixing. Here are the owners and permissions for my files:

-rw-rw-r-- 1 boinc_master boinc_project 558 Dec 10 10:57 app_info.xml
-rwxrwxr-x 1 boinc_master boinc_project 3000700 Oct 26 12:32 seti_enhanced-ppc-v7.1-g5-nographics

Note the owner is boinc_master, but the group is boinc_project.

Hope this helps.
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Message 532192 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007, 14:47:59 UTC

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ "Energy Efficient", 1GB DDR2 PC6400, RAC 880 and climbing (also just started crunching Rosetta@Home on this computer) using 2.2B.

Will probably upgrade this to the Athlon 64 X2 5600+ since it has 2x 1MB L2 cache and an even CPU multiplier which will make the RAM run at the correct speed.
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Message 534458 - Posted: 21 Mar 2007, 3:55:41 UTC
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My Intel Core Duo mac mini is up to 382 RAC. Not stellar compared to others but it does twice as much as my G5 imac. So when you see Apple saying 2X faster I would say that for number crunching that statement is based in fact. Hooray for Core Duo!

And... I managed to get Alex Kan's app going on my mini. Just had to get the permissions right. That custom app took me from 12000 per 60 credit down to about 7500 per 60 credit. Not bad Alex!
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Message 534462 - Posted: 21 Mar 2007, 4:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 531855.  

Mine is down a bit at the moment as my machine is in high use mode right now...

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Now my opty is up to 1500 RAC

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