Middle East is in Crisis Again Closed

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Captain Avatar Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0	Message 366511 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 1:56:20 UTC - in response to Message 366508. Here we go again. More young men are going to die... Damn it. Innocent Men, Women and children too. ID: 366511 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 367065 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 16:55:18 UTC - in response to Message 366355. CNN just reported the Damascus to Syria highway just got bombed. Interesting.... Very interesting... Especially so being as Damascus is in Syria! So what did CNN really say or don't they know where Syria is? Good luck, Martin They may haw goten confused? I meant the Lebanon to Damascus Highway...whoops. ID: 367065 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 367067 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 16:57:52 UTC CNN international---a few minutes ago they report new rockets landing in N.Israel. ------------------------------------------- Dear Editor: What will it take for Israel to go to war? How many more Israelis will have to be murdered, kidnapped, or maimed? Israel says the killing and kidnapping of Israelis by Islamic terror groups Hezbollah and Hamas are acts of war. But is Israel prepared to wage a real war in self-defense? Hezbollah and Hamas have been launching attacks against Israelis for decades--yet Israel has not used its military capability to inflict massive destruction on these groups and obliterate the terrorist states that harbor and sponsor them. It is long past time for Israel to wage a real war against these terrorist groups and states. And it is long past time for the United States to join Israel in waging this war. David Holcberg Copyright (c) 2006 Ayn Rand(R) Institute. All rights reserved. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 367067 ·

John Clark Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0	Message 367071 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 17:01:05 UTC They should place all the leaders, and politicians, from both sides in a pressurised locked room in space. Then there would be an air leak introduced and they would have to agree peace terms and long term co-operation of not survive! That way other people will not do the dying for the politics or politicians. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues ID: 367071 ·

Octagon Send message Joined: 13 Jun 05 Posts: 1418 Credit: 5,250,988 RAC: 109	Message 367072 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 17:02:26 UTC The best, but least likely, outcome would be for the Lebanese military to join the Israeli Defense Forces against Hezbollah. No animals were harmed in the making of the above post... much. ID: 367072 ·

Rush Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0	Message 367107 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 17:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 367072. Last modified: 14 Jul 2006, 17:45:27 UTC The best, but least likely, outcome would be for the Lebanese military to join the Israeli Defense Forces against Hezbollah. Ah, the IDF. They really fixed Rachel Corrie's hash. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ID: 367107 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 367117 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 17:52:16 UTC - in response to Message 367107. The best, but least likely, outcome would be for the Lebanese military to join the Israeli Defense Forces against Hezbollah. Ah, the IDF. They really fixed Rachel Corrie's hash. Who is Rachel Corrie? ID: 367117 ·

Captain Avatar Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0	Message 367121 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 17:54:45 UTC - in response to Message 367117. The best, but least likely, outcome would be for the Lebanese military to join the Israeli Defense Forces against Hezbollah. Ah, the IDF. They really fixed Rachel Corrie's hash. Who is Rachel Corrie? http://www.rachelcorrie.org/ ID: 367121 ·

Darth Dogbytes™ Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0	Message 367129 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 17:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 367072. The best, but least likely, outcome would be for the Lebanese military to join the Israeli Defense Forces against Hezbollah. And what about the Shia in the Lebonese army? Account frozen... ID: 367129 ·

Troy Stull Send message Joined: 21 Jun 06 Posts: 264 Credit: 46,144 RAC: 0	Message 367177 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 19:05:25 UTC - in response to Message 367071. They should place all the leaders, and politicians, from both sides in a pressurised locked room in space. Then there would be an air leak introduced and they would have to agree peace terms and long term co-operation of not survive! That way other people will not do the dying for the politics or politicians. That I could agree with. Anything has to be better then war. There are no winners in war, only losers and survivors. /Central Florida Astronomical Society ID: 367177 ·

Octagon Send message Joined: 13 Jun 05 Posts: 1418 Credit: 5,250,988 RAC: 109	Message 367183 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 19:27:05 UTC - in response to Message 367177. They should place all the leaders, and politicians, from both sides in a pressurised locked room in space. Then there would be an air leak introduced and they would have to agree peace terms and long term co-operation of not survive! That way other people will not do the dying for the politics or politicians. That I could agree with. Anything has to be better then war. There are no winners in war, only losers and survivors. Then in the interest of world peace we shall all disband our militaries. You go first. No animals were harmed in the making of the above post... much. ID: 367183 ·

Stan Veit Send message Joined: 6 Jun 06 Posts: 2 Credit: 4,373 RAC: 0	Message 367188 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 19:55:19 UTC Iran controls Hezbollah and this is part of their plan to relieve the international pressure on them. Hezbollah knew full well what the result of siezing Israeli soldiers would be. Although it does not help to respond with full force,Israel has little choice. The minute it shows any weakness it could be fatal. The striking of the Middle East tinder box is mostly designed to weaken and divide the United States. When will we wake up to the fact that we are in REAL WARnwith a clever foe who knows how to turn our might against ourselves. ID: 367188 ·

Rush Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0	Message 367287 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 22:35:13 UTC - in response to Message 367121. Last modified: 14 Jul 2006, 22:35:39 UTC Who is Rachel Corrie? http://www.rachelcorrie.org/ Needless to say, that source is extremely one-sided, much as I might agree with her ultimate goal. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ID: 367287 ·

Troy Stull Send message Joined: 21 Jun 06 Posts: 264 Credit: 46,144 RAC: 0	Message 367290 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 22:36:20 UTC - in response to Message 367183. They should place all the leaders, and politicians, from both sides in a pressurised locked room in space. Then there would be an air leak introduced and they would have to agree peace terms and long term co-operation of not survive! That way other people will not do the dying for the politics or politicians. That I could agree with. Anything has to be better then war. There are no winners in war, only losers and survivors. Then in the interest of world peace we shall all disband our militaries. You go first. I'm not that naive. But I did serve in Afganastan, and I firmly belive that war is something that far too many people want to rush right into. /Central Florida Astronomical Society ID: 367290 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 367293 - Posted: 14 Jul 2006, 22:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 367188. Last modified: 14 Jul 2006, 22:41:02 UTC Iran controls Hezbollah and this is part of their plan to relieve the international pressure on them. Hezbollah knew full well what the result of siezing Israeli soldiers would be. Although it does not help to respond with full force,Israel has little choice. The minute it shows any weakness it could be fatal. The striking of the Middle East tinder box is mostly designed to weaken and divide the United States. When will we wake up to the fact that we are in REAL WARnwith a clever foe who knows how to turn our might against ourselves. That's a good point Stan, and I'll add this to it, if I may. If another War breaks out in the Middle East, and if Israel can be painted as "aggressors", Iran has gained a credible justification for arming itself with nuclear weapons as a deterrent to Israel. I think that is also part of Iran's plan. ID: 367293 ·

Captain Avatar Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0	Message 369019 - Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 4:45:30 UTC From http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//forum_thread.php?id=31381&nowrap=true#369014 Robert summarizes the situation very well. Thanks Robert Knightmate, There's a thread CA made about the mid east crisis you may want to visit. In the meantime, here's a simplistic rundown of the situation. Hezbollah, is a militant Shiite terror group existing in Lebanon, just north of Israel. They are backed and supplied by Iran and began launching hundreds of rockets on Israeli cities. Israel had had enough and hit back into Lebanese territory (where Lebanon, who is fairly 'westernized') is both unwilling/unable to control this army. Syria, to Lebanon's North had occupied Lebanon as 'friends' until the burgeoning liberal attitude of democracy took hold when the citizens saw what was possible in the region with elections happening in Afghan and Iraq. They , some say, want an excuse to get back in the action. China sold alot of their missiles to Iran which in turn furnished them to Hezbollah. There's alot more to it than that of course, but check out that thread. Supposedly Iran has specialists in Lebanon helping these attacks on Israel, including the ship they hit the other day, in order to distract from their own nuclear arms program. ID: 369019 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 369298 - Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 14:04:11 UTC On Fox News....helicopters are attempting to evacuate americans...there's about 25k there. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 369298 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 369300 - Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 14:05:04 UTC and just now, a report of drones flying over Gaza strip....wow.... Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 369300 ·

Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0	Message 369312 - Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 14:27:08 UTC If I were playing 'evil dictator of the world' wargame... I'd have N.Korea invade the South. Iran invade Iraq to tie up the allied forces there.... China can move into N.Korea to 'stabilize' territory. Japan can attack out of its own national interest. Russia can move forces to the Eastern border.. Syria reoccupy Lebanon......and invade the Israelies We could throw a war party and invite everyone. Now THAT'S a war.... Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! ID: 369312 ·

Es99 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0	Message 369352 - Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 15:14:23 UTC - in response to Message 369312. If I were playing 'evil dictator of the world' wargame... I'd have N.Korea invade the South. Iran invade Iraq to tie up the allied forces there.... China can move into N.Korea to 'stabilize' territory. Japan can attack out of its own national interest. Russia can move forces to the Eastern border.. Syria reoccupy Lebanon......and invade the Israelies We could throw a war party and invite everyone. Now THAT'S a war.... Yes, but let's not forget what's really important here... ...who's going to get the television rights? Reality Internet Personality ID: 369352 ·

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