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Octagon Send message Joined: 13 Jun 05 Posts: 1418 Credit: 5,250,988 RAC: 109 |
rush, Please pay attention. Iraq was in violation of its cease-fire agreement. This is and always has been legal justification for the resumption of hostilities. The US was willing to let the UN run around in circles 'inspecting' Iraq because the US was more worried about China and the former Soviet states. I put 'inpsecting' in quotes because the UN sent only a tiny fraction of the number of inspectors that combed through Nazi Germany after World War II. I'm not aware of any mind-reading technology developed since World War II, so it is reasonable to state that the level of effort was lower in the case of inspecting Iraq. On 9/11, the US's tolerance for risk changed dramatically. Iraq's violations, which had been morally reprehensible but were viewed as an acceptable risk, were now viewed as an immenent threat. Note that noting in Iraq changed between 9/10 and 9/12; the change was entirely one of perception in the US government. Iraq was in violation on 9/10 and could be invaded at any time in response. Saddam had a chunk of the UN on his payroll, so he only had to fear one of the origional coalition partners resuming hostilities... and on 9/10 that was a political impossibility. So, what's the incentive for Iraq to cooperate? Iraq mis-caclulated the change in US perceptions on 9/11. This is an 'intelligence failure' far more serious (from Iraq's point of view) than any supposed bungling by the CIA that allowed 9/11 to happen. The US survived 9/11, Iraq's regime did not survive its intelligence failure. Think of it this way... most people who drive cars do so at a speed above the posted speed limit. In a 55mph stretch of highway, speeds in excess of 70mph are routine. One day, on the far end of the state, some politician's kid is injured in a hit-and-run accident and suddenly the cops are pulling people over for going 56 in a 55 zone. Going 70 in a 55 zone was a crime the day before, and the speeding driver has no excuse when he or she gets a ticket, even if the reason for the change in enforcement has nothing to do with that particular driver. No animals were harmed in the making of the above post... much. |
Prognatus Send message Joined: 6 Jul 99 Posts: 1600 Credit: 391,546 RAC: 0 |
Certainly Monica was willing, and the other girl was lying her a** off just to get money. So he was no sex offender. The only one he offended was his wife. And then maybe large parts of his country when he lied. So, he's a liar but no sex offender. What is worse, I don't know. EU wants Iran taken to Security CouncilYou know, EU is not a political union - yet. They're going there.. slowly. Some time in the future EU will talk as one in foreign affairs. Then it's probably time EU took a permanent seat in the Security Council, leaving France and Great Britain's seats vacant. That would also solve the ongoing dispute about Germany's wish to have a permanent seat in the SC. |
Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0 |
Certainly Monica was willing, and the other girl was lying her a** off just to get money. So he was no sex offender. The only one he offended was his wife. And then maybe large parts of his country when he lied. So, he's a liar but no sex offender. What is worse, I don't know. Both are jokes. Account frozen... |
SilentObserver64 Send message Joined: 21 Sep 05 Posts: 139 Credit: 680,037 RAC: 0 |
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SilentObserver64 Send message Joined: 21 Sep 05 Posts: 139 Credit: 680,037 RAC: 0 |
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The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Certainly Monica was willing, and the other girl was lying her a** off just to get money. So he was no sex offender. The only one he offended was his wife. And then maybe large parts of his country when he lied. So, he's a liar but no sex offender. What is worse, I don't know. He's a politician, surely we should be worried if he didn't lie. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
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SilentObserver64 Send message Joined: 21 Sep 05 Posts: 139 Credit: 680,037 RAC: 0 |
Good One!!! |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
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Ophus Send message Joined: 10 Nov 99 Posts: 205 Credit: 1,577,356 RAC: 4 |
I don't know where you guys find these cartoons, but they are too funny. And the one DogBytes posted of the Arkansas State sign that was funny. |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
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RichaG Send message Joined: 20 May 99 Posts: 1690 Credit: 19,287,294 RAC: 36 |
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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
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Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0 |
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Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
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Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
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Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0 |
That was a great article. Everyone should read it. Account frozen... |
Saenger Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2452 Credit: 33,281 RAC: 0 |
The answer by a german journalist from Istanbul: European Arrogance Versus Muslim Fanaticism By Jürgen Gottschlich in Istanbul |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Thanks Saenger, this was informative. I read it all because I thought it was a satiric description of the chain of events, but I must say that I felt just as sick as you feel, every time you read about Germans and the KZ-camps, which you expressed in your post in this thread. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0 |
Both articles were well written. It is exactly this, the free exchange of views and ideas is what it's all about, i.e., freedom of the press without government or religious censorship. It is a right so basic that it is at the core of every true democracy. Account frozen... |
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