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Message 132253 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 1:10:37 UTC

Dont even mention that in jest thats all we need another job for inter cops if i see one more illegal american invaison &*%^*$&**(.


I wasn’t suggesting there be an invasion. I was merely making a point that while people support helping people in Africa, they don’t want to treat the disease. They want to treat the symptoms. Fixing tough issues often requires tough solutions. By the way, who ever said anything about America?

I didn’t realize people really believe that America went to war in Iraq for oil. I also didn’t realize that there was such thing as an illegal war…illegal to whom?
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Message 132301 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 2:37:36 UTC - in response to Message 132177.  

Yes, I know that poverty exists in this world. I also know it exists, right in my own neighborhood. I urge those of you that are considering giving money to the large multinational charities to give a part of that money as either cash, or in kind, to your local charities as well. Way too often, they are forgotten in this day and age.


How right you are that charity should begin at home. While the African plight needs attention, so do many of the worthy charities right in each of our own backyards. The main problem I have with many of the national and multi-national charities is that little of a donation actually gets through as much is sucked up in administrative expenses and questionable activities (remember the Red Cross donation fiasco after 9/11). In addition the national and multi-national charities also get the celebrity and media support while local charities such as the neighborhood food bank, that many depend on to survive, struggle to make ends meet rather quietly.

While it may sound selfish, I'd rather give to those in my community that are truly needy rather than send my donations off to a large multi-national charity where little of my donation actually reaches the people. At least with most local charities near me, 94% to 100% of the donations make it to those that need it. The national and multi-national charities are no better than the local charities right in my back yard.



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Message 132338 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 4:25:07 UTC - in response to Message 132253.  

Dont even mention that in jest thats all we need another job for inter cops if i see one more illegal american invaison &*%^*$&**(.


I wasn’t suggesting there be an invasion. I was merely making a point that while people support helping people in Africa, they don’t want to treat the disease. They want to treat the symptoms. Fixing tough issues often requires tough solutions. By the way, who ever said anything about America?

I didn’t realize people really believe that America went to war in Iraq for oil. I also didn’t realize that there was such thing as an illegal war…illegal to whom?


Dear Nebby: I am curious to know what dreamworld you live in. Do you actually not know that many of your fellow Americans truly believed that Iraqui oil was a major reason for our illegal invasion of Iraq? Do you actually no know that there are such things as illegal wars? Ever hear of Nazi Germany. We hanged a lot of people after that one for waging illegal war.

This nation was under no imminent threat of invasion by Iraq. We know that Iraq had no part in the tragedy of 9/11. We know that there were no weapons of mass destruction. We know that long before the bogus attempt to justify the invasion, the Administration had plans to invade. Now, I'm no lawyer, but Nebby I could make a pretty damned good case that this was an illegal war, that this is an illegal occupation, and that the result has been the destruction of thousands of Iraqui lives, the death and maiming of thousands of American boys and girls, and the effective growth in terrorism.

But the President tells us we're doing OK and he would never lie.
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Message 132341 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 4:37:29 UTC
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Jack, you forgot the billions of tax payer dollars being wasted in that Iraqi sink hole, which could have been better spent here at home in America. Drilling for oil in the Alaska wilderness areas comes to mind.
Well, as they say, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but when it smacks of the truth...we're in trouble.

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Message 132351 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 5:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 132253.  
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Message 132354 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 5:11:38 UTC - in response to Message 132253.  

Dont even mention that in jest thats all we need another job for inter cops if i see one more illegal american invaison &*%^*$&**(.


I wasn’t suggesting there be an invasion. I was merely making a point that while people support helping people in Africa, they don’t want to treat the disease. They want to treat the symptoms. Fixing tough issues often requires tough solutions. By the way, who ever said anything about America?

I didn’t realize people really believe that America went to war in Iraq for oil. I also didn’t realize that there was such thing as an illegal war…illegal to whom?


Illegal war = not authorised by the United Nations.

America, england and australia (with some minor coalition nations) broke international law when they invaded iraq despite a UN Sanction against it, when they realised that france and russia were going to veto any such action in the UN. So they just did it anyway before it could be stoped, quite a number of countries are still calling for charges to be laid such as war crimes.

PS Do you remember the whole weapons of mass destruction call. if that was the big issue and not oil which they claimed it was until they couldnt find any (funny how that shifted it was so subtle no one noticed)i wonder how north korea got away with it they were fairly screaming hey see our shiny new nuclear weapons but no oil.


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Message 132463 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 15:14:38 UTC

Haha! Priceless.

OK, back to the subject of the thread now.
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Message 132499 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 17:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 132463.  

Haha! Priceless.

OK, back to the subject of the thread now.


Neb old man you're either being obtuse or purposely insulting. In either case you haven't responded to the posts above. Now while one likes things to be neat and tidy I can say with some authority that has never been a sine qua non of the SETI boards. Still, if it will make you happy...and you seem a happy-go-lucky sort of a guy, I'll start a new thread on the subject and we can discuss things there.
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Message 132505 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 18:12:31 UTC
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Jack, you left stretch marks on the thread. Firefox?
Well, I guess that may apply to someone's oral cavity...or brain?
Anyway back at the ranch.......where were we?
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Message 132516 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 18:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 132505.  

Jack, you left stretch marks on the thread. Firefox?


Nope, mine is fine! Mozilla Firefox here!


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Message 132517 - Posted: 4 Jul 2005, 18:45:32 UTC - in response to Message 132516.  

Jack, you left stretch marks on the thread. Firefox?


Nope, mine is fine! Mozilla Firefox here!



yep...looks good in my FIREFOX too!

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