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Message 2095237 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 2:15:41 UTC - in response to Message 2095236.  

I still can't help but wonder what it is that the Ukraine has that Putin so desperately wants, or is it just the need to be the big bully on the block. He is ruining Russia's economic condition including his own and all his cronies.
Warm weather naval bases is a possibility.
Yes, there's a lot of old strategic U.S.S.R. infrastructure still left in the Ukraine.

Including the Woodpecker up near the infamous Chernobyl nuclear power complex.
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Message 2095238 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 5:54:12 UTC - in response to Message 2095233.  

But why? Can he not see that life in Russia and all of eastern europe has improved greatly since the fall of the U.S.S.R. His style of government is no longer relevant. If he is so power hungry then I hope that those who can remove him from leadership will do so very soon.
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Message 2095239 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 6:05:56 UTC

Because he needs to feel the want of recognition that his power gives him.

There are also "rumors" floating about that he isn't as well as he makes out so he just wants to make his mark in history (or try to) by returning the old U.S.S.R. back to what it was before he passes away.
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Message 2095246 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 12:12:47 UTC

The history of the links between Russia and the Ukraine go back a long way. All the way to the Viking era, when mainly Swedish vikings used the rivers to transport goods to and from Constantinople. Because they got ambushed by the local tribes these vikings set up defended bases along the river and these people were known as the Russ, Swedish Viking for rower. The largest and strongest of these bases was at Kyiv and became the capitol of the Russ(ians).

Over time and because of invasions and wars, Kyiv lost its dominant position and the Duchy of Moscow became the capitol of the Russians. And what today is Ukraine was divided between several of the neighbouring countries, such as Poland, when they were the dominant regional power until Russia took over the whole region. Ukraine did not become a separate country until 1991.

Because of all this history today's Russians have a belief that Kyiv , because it was their first capitol, should be theirs.
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Message 2095247 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 12:16:23 UTC

Also, his past incursions into Georgia and Ukraine helped to drive previous Soviet states to NATO. Ukraine, although not perfect, is a democracy with very western values, and they are sitting on his doorstep. There is only so much Russia can do to hide that fact from the Russian people. I am guessing that in Putin's mind, he can't allow a free and democratic Ukraine to exist on his border, or risk losing both his power, and/or the end of Russia as it is today. On the other hand, his war in Ukraine now has almost cemented his own downfall. Some of what he wanted was to keep the fragmentation of NATO which Trump had a huge hand in, to continue. The reverse is what happened, and NATO is more unified now than it has been in a long time. As always, there are no quick and easy answers to this very complex, dynamic situation.
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Message 2095269 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 19:59:13 UTC
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In Wat War would a SUPER LONG CONvoy be Allowed to NOT be OBLITERATED when da WHOLE WORLD In REAL TIME sees Pics/Vids of It Ambling Along?
Sitting Still Actually. Been Days and Days and Days.

WDaF?

Extremely STRANGE.

We are Watching Russia/Putin MURDERING in REAL TIME.

If World War Two was Watched in REAL TIME would WORLD Allow It without IMMEDIATELY RESPONDING?

NOPE.

NUKEs are a GREAT DETERENT.

Got NUKEs? MURDER ALL YOU WANT. Conventially. You Know, da OLD FASHIONED Way.

China Also Knows da GAME and Plays It.

While World Watches aka MURDER NOW - Have ACCOUNTABILITY Later. Sickening

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Message 2095270 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 20:05:37 UTC - in response to Message 2095269.  

But your boy the criminal, treasonous Trump said Putin's invasion was genius and savvy.
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Message 2095271 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 20:27:34 UTC

But your boy the criminal, treasonous Trump said Putin's invasion was genius and savvy.


And It is GENIUS and SAVVY.

My Previous Post Below States It. The One Before Yours

FAT CAT GENERALs in Situation Room Smokin' Expensive Cigars and Throwin' Back da Finest Scotch and Burbon as They Tell Stories of their Time in da 'Theater' of 'Wars' Past.

dA Guy on TV Now is Sayin' How WE ARE 'RECORDING' ALL of RUSSIAs Bad Deeds and ACCOUNTABILITY LATER to Come.

aka MURDER NOW - PAY LATER.

So, SUPERTrump is DEAD ON - Genius and Savvy.

Knowing da SO CALLED WEST Will DO NOTHING.

'cause of da NUKE DETERRENT

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Message 2095273 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 21:19:27 UTC - in response to Message 2095271.  
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Knowing da SO CALLED WEST Will DO NOTHING.


The ruble is down around 40% since before the invasion and the Russian stock market has lost the better part of a trillion dollars in value due to sanctions, and Ukraine has been kept going and fighting by hundreds of millions* in arms, armor, food, medicine and other equipment and supplies from elsewhere, which will continue until the Russian occupiers are driven out.
(* Edit : add to that billions in direct monetary aid to the Ukrainian government to buy more of the same)

This is nothing?
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Message 2095274 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 21:22:09 UTC - in response to Message 2095271.  

If you believe that you must also believe in the Easter bunny.
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Message 2095275 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 21:27:19 UTC - in response to Message 2095274.  

If you believe that you must also believe in the Easter bunny.



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Message 2095276 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 21:37:37 UTC - in response to Message 2095273.  

Knowing da SO CALLED WEST Will DO NOTHING.
The ruble is down around 40% since before the invasion and the Russian stock market has lost the better part of a trillion dollars in value due to sanctions, and Ukraine has been kept going and fighting by hundreds of millions* in arms, armor, food, medicine and other equipment and supplies from elsewhere, which will continue until the Russian occupiers are driven out.
(* Edit : add to that billions in direct monetary aid to the Ukrainian government to buy more of the same)

This is nothing?
Not to mention that domestic interest rates there have gone from just over 9% up to 20% and may go higher yet.
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Message 2095283 - Posted: 2 Mar 2022, 23:13:40 UTC

This is nothing?


It is NOTHING to the DEAD and Ones Continuing to Die.

So, I Would Say - YEAH. It is NOTHING

By da By. Russian Citizens are SUFFERING Also from The MURDERER aka - Well, You Know Who.

I Follow the News. NOTHING You All Have Mentioned is NEWs I Have Not Heard Already. IOWs. NOTHING. PEOPLE Being MURDERED Continues. NO Matter How Much USELESS NEWs I Hear and The DEAD Will Never Hear Again.

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Message 2095294 - Posted: 3 Mar 2022, 1:52:14 UTC - in response to Message 2095276.  

Knowing da SO CALLED WEST Will DO NOTHING.
The ruble is down around 40% since before the invasion and the Russian stock market has lost the better part of a trillion dollars in value due to sanctions, and Ukraine has been kept going and fighting by hundreds of millions* in arms, armor, food, medicine and other equipment and supplies from elsewhere, which will continue until the Russian occupiers are driven out.
(* Edit : add to that billions in direct monetary aid to the Ukrainian government to buy more of the same)

This is nothing?
Not to mention that domestic interest rates there have gone from just over 9% up to 20% and may go higher yet.


Russians are already refusing the ruble as payment. The ruble is the next Zimbabwe dollar.
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Message 2095332 - Posted: 4 Mar 2022, 2:54:12 UTC - in response to Message 2095327.  

Whar's not to like after all Trump said Putin's invasion was genius and savvy?
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Message 2095341 - Posted: 4 Mar 2022, 12:39:47 UTC
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The comments about Ukraine coming from some pundits on Fox news are so bad they are getting 'fact checked' by the channels own National security correspondent, Jennifer Griffin.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/mar/04/jennifer-griffin-fox-news-fact-checking-ukraine
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Message 2095352 - Posted: 4 Mar 2022, 18:52:40 UTC

I think that attacking a nuclear power plant should be the straw that breaks the camel's back as far as direct intervention by NATO or some other coalition is concerned. Such an attack can have serious ramifications for all of europe. This is more proof that a madman is in charge of the second most powerful nation on earth. And just when I thought it was safe to go to bed at night.
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Message 2095356 - Posted: 4 Mar 2022, 19:22:35 UTC - in response to Message 2095352.  

The screw that stopped his sanity has fallen out and rolled into a very dark corner.
This has been followed by what was left of his sanity which has drained away into a location a long way away (and possibly in a different universe?)
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Message 2095362 - Posted: 4 Mar 2022, 20:12:14 UTC

The "nothing" is working... he's starting to beg

Vladimir Putin Says Russia Has 'No Ill Intentions,' Pleads for No More Sanctions

"I want to emphasize once again. We have no ill intentions towards our neighbors, and I would advise them not to escalate the situation, nor to introduce any restrictions," he said, according to news agencies.


(Cluster-bombing residential areas and shelling nuclear power stations is not ill intentions?)

More sanctions please...
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