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Message 2085818 - Posted: 8 Oct 2021, 19:13:24 UTC

Starting new topic on all things Microsoft Windows 11........

Reason 3,995 to hold off on that Windows 11 upgrade: Iffy performance on AMD silicon
While not yet listed on Microsoft's known issues dashboard for Windows 11, AMD has come out and said that there's a performance penalty when running "certain applications."
...In practice, this is expected to result in a performance impact of between 3 and 5 per cent. Not so bad, until one considers "outliers" such as "games commonly used for eSports" where an impact of up to 15 per cent is possible. Less than ideal for the performance-obsessed gamer population.

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Message 2085820 - Posted: 8 Oct 2021, 19:26:03 UTC

The problem lies with the new Intel Thread Director scheduler that Microsoft is trying to implement for the new big.LITTLE Alder Lake cpus coming out.

The fact that it hamstrings AMD cpus is just a bonus for Intel and gives them a chance to reclaim the performance crown with the gimped AMD cpus because of the scheduler.
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Message 2085824 - Posted: 8 Oct 2021, 22:17:35 UTC - in response to Message 2085820.  
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The problem lies with the new Intel Thread Director scheduler that Microsoft is trying to implement for the new big.LITTLE Alder Lake cpus coming out.

The fact that it hamstrings AMD cpus is just a bonus for Intel and gives them a chance to reclaim the performance crown with the gimped AMD cpus because of the scheduler.

Hey ho...

Intel is losing out on their chip designs AND the silicon they can use, and so...?

Intel is baaack to the bad old days of Naughty Intel dastardly sabotage?... (To the greater cost of everyone else around...)


For the 'back story', see:



And history now repeats for a new Naughty decade?



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Message 2086183 - Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 15:57:37 UTC

Helpful tips rom TECH REPUBLIC to "fix Win 11":
11 things you should do to Windows 11 when you get it

1. Change Xbox App settings to not run on log in...
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Message 2086212 - Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 22:29:47 UTC

The continuing usual (suspicious?) silliness:


... This week's Windows 11 update didn't fix your performance woes (they may be worse)
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A new patch next week might...

Windows 11 received its first bundle of fixes this week...

... As another Reddit poster put it: "I learned my lesson a very very long time ago with windows ME (yeah I'm old), don't upgrade your Windows OS for at least 6 months after first release. A year is probably better."




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Message 2086214 - Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 22:36:03 UTC
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Hell freezes over again?...

Here's some long long awaited Windows compatibility news:



How Windows NTFS finally made it into Linux
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Microsoft's New Technology File System has been with us for decades and at long, long last it's going to be fully supported for penguins

Love it or hate it, Linux users in a Windows world must deal with Microsoft's New Technology File System (NTFS). This has always been a pain in the rump. Even after Microsoft finally gave up on its anti-Linux rhetoric and released its patents to the open-source community and expressively opened up its exFAT patents, we still couldn't get into NTFS.

Things have changed. Starting with the Linux 5.15 kernel, NTFS is finally being fully supported in Linux. This journey hasn't been easy.

Microsoft introduced NTFS, a proprietary – naturally – journaling file system in Windows NT 3.1 in 1993. From there, it replaced 1977's File Allocation Table (FAT) file system across Windows.

Now just because something is proprietary doesn't mean that Linux and open-source developers can't reverse-engineer it or finagle some way of using it...

... By September 2020, Paragon had moved on to the final stage: Acceptance. The company "contributed the read-write NTFS kernel driver under the GPL to the Linux community, for hopeful inclusion in due time to the mainline kernel.

That was wonderful news… except for this one little thing. The NTFS3 code was in no way, shape, or form ready to be added to the kernel. That's the thing with proprietary code – and why I'm cynical about the idea that Microsoft could simply open-source, say, all of Windows 7 – it's often badly written. Unlike open-source, where everyone can see your work, proprietary software can hide its sins from watchers...

... Over a year later, they didn't have a GPL fight. Thank goodness for small miracles. But, after a long, messy process, NTFS3, and thus NTFS, is finally in the Linux 5.15 kernel release candidate. If it all goes well, you can expect to see this kernel arrive in time for Halloween...

... Who would have dreamed that – even five years ago after Microsoft claimed it loved Linux? We live in interesting times.





Quite the story...


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Message 2086233 - Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 9:03:29 UTC - in response to Message 2086214.  

Hell freezes over again?...

Here's some long long awaited Windows compatibility news:

Hi Martin,

I'm currently running the v5.4 Linux kernel. Since moving all but my gaming over to Linux, I have been reading from and writing to NTFS formatted drives.

Now just because something is proprietary doesn't mean that Linux and open-source developers can't reverse-engineer it or finagle some way of using it...

Is this why I have been able to? I don't get it, why bother messing up the Kernel with Micro$oft crap?

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Message 2086241 - Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 15:16:58 UTC - in response to Message 2086233.  
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Hell freezes over again?...

Here's some long long awaited Windows compatibility news:

Hi Martin,

I'm currently running the v5.4 Linux kernel. Since moving all but my gaming over to Linux, I have been reading from and writing to NTFS formatted drives.

Now just because something is proprietary doesn't mean that Linux and open-source developers can't reverse-engineer it or finagle some way of using it...

Is this why I have been able to? I don't get it, why bother messing up the Kernel with Micro$oft crap?...

Yes... There have been two versions of user-side 'utilities' (using "FUSE" to interface into the kernel) that had been 'reverse engineered' for access to NTFS disks. Those utilities worked but didn't include all the features for all the functions included in NTFS itself. Regardless, they were very useful.

This latest effort is where some proprietary code from a support company (Paragon) has been (extensively) tidied up to now be included into the kernel (5.15) directly, for expanded features and increased performance.

Very good and very much a good surprise.


Good things can happen, even if a lot of patience is needed.

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Message 2086408 - Posted: 18 Oct 2021, 21:52:31 UTC

From Bleeping Computers; How to unlock Windows 11's God Mode to access advanced settings

With God mode, you can access the advanced management features in one location and it's better than the modern settings.

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Message 2086432 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 8:05:13 UTC
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When M$ introduced Windows 10 they made a promise that they wouldn't be playing the numbers game any more. 10 was it, there would just be monthly upgrades and patches for ever more. If you ever wanted evidence that M$ lies through its teeth, well here you are with Windows 11.

I am still running Win 7 on my gear and I have no plans to change. Win 8 & 8.1 were just a joke nobody took them seriously. Millennium was just ridiculous. Win 10 comes with most stuff these days, and when I bought a s/h laptop it had it on it. But of course the very first thing I did was to download Classic shell.

The happiest days of my life was running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and MSDOS 6.22. You could edit system .ini and win.ini and autoexec.bat. And if you were good enough get 685k of UMB memory. Some programs loaded big but ran small. You were in charge not M$.

Gates lost it for me when he said why would anyone want more than 640K? IBM should have persevered with OS2, we had a mail server running that OK.
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Message 2086434 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 8:10:49 UTC

Has anyone noticed the way they are doing it the version numbers it's like they forgot to change the 1st 2 digits from 10 to 11. Or is it just me?
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Message 2086435 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 8:12:42 UTC - in response to Message 2086432.  
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IBM should have persevered with OS2.

They did in a sense when eComStation took over OS/2 Warp development. I ran eComStation for ten years after IBM threw in the towel.
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Message 2086437 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 8:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 2086435.  

Ah yes, dear IBM.

Thomas Watson, president of IBM, said in 1943 "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.”
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Message 2086452 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 14:22:40 UTC - in response to Message 2086432.  

The happiest days of my life was running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and MSDOS 6.22. You could edit system .ini and win.ini and autoexec.bat. And if you were good enough get 685k of UMB memory. Some programs loaded big but ran small. You were in charge not M$.
Don't forget config.sys
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Message 2086458 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 14:57:47 UTC - in response to Message 2086452.  
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The happiest days of my life was running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and MSDOS 6.22. You could edit system .ini and win.ini and autoexec.bat. And if you were good enough get 685k of UMB memory. Some programs loaded big but ran small. You were in charge not M$.
Don't forget config.sys

... And you can still fully configure some Linux systems with nothing more than a mere txt editor, in pretty much the same way as in the days of DOS and WfW3.11.



However... We now have a fork in the good cause of 'who' is in control or your system and whether whatever system is yours at all...

Welcome to the new world of "systemd" (convoluted obscure binary coded configs) and "TPM" and "Digital Rights Restrictions Management"...


Linux being linux, there are still freely available distros where you the user are still in total control of your own system.

However, however... Most (non-tech?) users actually seem to not want that!


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Message 2086469 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 18:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 2086452.  

Ah yes, Config.sys. Remember it well.
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Message 2086471 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 18:19:16 UTC - in response to Message 2086469.  

As do I. :-)
The one that bugged me no end was MSCDEX v1 & v2.
On their release, each manufacturer had their own version & to get a CD player recognised...
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Message 2086714 - Posted: 23 Oct 2021, 13:35:27 UTC - in response to Message 2086212.  
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Is this the fix (multiple fixes) this time?...


AMD Posts Official Fix for Windows 11 Bugs (Update: Microsoft Releases Patch, Too)
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First patch arrives, second is inbound...

... two bugs that lead to reduced performance in Windows 11 and impact the Best CPUs for gaming...

... Naturally, all users on Windows 11 platforms should update to the new patch immediately — you can find the new driver here. The second patch comes from Microsoft as a Windows update that arrived today. As a reminder, the bugs impact all Windows 11-compatible AMD processors...

... The bugs couldn't come at a worse time: Intel is on the cusp of launching its seemingly potent Alder Lake chips that will undoubtedly tighten the race for desktop PC supremacy. Making things worse for AMD, Windows 11 has new scheduler optimizations specifically for Alder Lake, so reviewers will use the new operating system for testing. That raised concerns that the bug could possibly result in unfair comparisons, particularly if the second patch didn't arrive in time for reviewers...



All an unholy game?


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Message 2086840 - Posted: 25 Oct 2021, 12:57:13 UTC

I just installed Windows 11 on a laptop with a Ryzen 5 4500U with graphic capabilities. I don't see any worsening in times relative to Windows 10, but I am not making any precise calculations. As long as the BOINC tasks complete and validate, that is OK for me.
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Message 2086971 - Posted: 28 Oct 2021, 1:20:13 UTC

Out of curiosity which way is easier to upgrade. Is it easier through Windows update or using the media creation tool?
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