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juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
By the last statistics there will by about 200 000 SETI orphan hosts. Where they will go? Even a fraction of such large number of hosts will hit hard any project they choose to stay. There will be some interesting times in the following months for the others projects admins. In my case i still not decided what to do or what will be my new step house. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14676 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I've been wondering what effect this news will have on the rest of the scientific community? Will they ... ... see lots of skilled users with powerful computers, ready to take on a new area of science? ... mis-understand and read it (wrongly) as the beginning of the end of the BOINC platform as a whole? |
Ghia Send message Joined: 7 Feb 17 Posts: 238 Credit: 28,911,438 RAC: 50 |
By the last statistics there will by about 200 000 SETI orphan hosts. Perhaps we should all set up a new team called Seti Orphans, and go invade another project.. ? :-) Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22491 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Some will see it as the end of BOINC, others will see an increase in their headcount. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Some will see it as the end of BOINC, others will see an increase in their headcount. I sincerely hope it is never an end to BOINC. Even if I can't have my preferred project. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
petri33 Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 |
I'll go to a project that has an open source code for Nvidia GPUS and an off-line test suite similar to Seti@home. To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
Johnny Castle Send message Joined: 5 Jun 00 Posts: 3 Credit: 344,942 RAC: 7 |
Does Serendip have a bionic project? also i presume that there is not a way to help analyze the Nebula data? |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Mine are now doing Androids, Universe and Einstein. But that's mostly because they weren't getting Seti tasks anyway. :) |
Unixchick Send message Joined: 5 Mar 12 Posts: 815 Credit: 2,361,516 RAC: 22 |
I've been looking at Einstein as a new home. They were friendly enough to open a spot in their boards to let us chat on Tuesdays, so that earns them bonus points in my book. How is their uptime? do they have a weekly outage? do I need to configure my system differently? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21092 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I'll go to a project that has an open source code for Nvidia GPUS and an off-line test suite similar to Seti@home. Hey! I'm sure your optimizations will be greatly welcomed!! To follow my own interests: Go Einstein@Home? ;-) Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
I'll go to a project that has an open source code for Nvidia GPUS and an off-line test suite similar to Seti@home. please let us know which one you find! Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21092 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Does Serendip have a bionic project? I believe all the Serendip processing takes place in real-time on dedicated hardware. Independently to that, s@h processes the same source data more slowly but to much deeper sensitivity. For Nebula, you can take a look at: Instructions for evaluating Nebula output Perhaps this is where some of the Nebula project pages need updating to most usefully direct any/all available help?... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11411 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I've been looking at Einstein as a new home. They were friendly enough to open a spot in their boards to let us chat on Tuesdays, so that earns them bonus points in my book. How is their uptime? do they have a weekly outage? do I need to configure my system differently? E@H is "always" up E@H does not have weekly outages just occasional system patches Your system should function fine but you will probably want to look at their preferences in you account page. I've been happy there since 25 Feb 05 |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
E@H does not have weekly outages So where is the fun? No moon to hollow, hair to burn, virgin to sacrifice, goes to the pub... |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9957 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Personally I was just pondering what I was going to do for this years WOW event. Whether in fact I would enter at all as it struck me last year as not very environmentally friendly. Seems the decision has been taken out of my hands. I will crunch on my 4 main machines until there is nothing left to crunch, then I will be left with 5 750 Ti's, 2 1050's, 2 1060, and a 970 with nothing to do. Whether I will crunch for another project remains to be seen, SETI was really the only one that ever interested me. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
There's been some talk to resurrect one of the Einstein@home challenges to take place in the same period that WOW used to occupy. I would hope that most Seti volunteers believe in the concept of distributed computing and will continue to work for other projects as citizen scientists. Who knows you may discover the next miracle protein, planet-killer asteroid or what the heck is dark matter and dark energy. I have a credit citation for a paper at GPUGrid finally. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
halfempty Send message Joined: 2 Jun 99 Posts: 97 Credit: 35,236,901 RAC: 114 |
I would hope that most Seti volunteers believe in the concept of distributed computing and will continue to work for other projects as citizen scientists.+1 I signed up for MilkyWay as a backup project a decade ago. When the Seti results stop flowing I will also probably join GPUGrid and Rosetta, and maybe Einstein. MilkyWay (BOINC client) never really did what I wanted it to "automatically", usually had to control it manually. I'm probably going to have a heck of a time trying to get all of them to peacefully co-exist when the time comes. Guess it will be time for new challenges. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11411 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
E@H does not have weekly outages We can still party over @ the S@H is down cafe and lament, burn hair go to the pub and sacrifice as we see fit. See you next Tuesday. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
MilkyWay (BOINC client) never really did what I wanted it to "automatically", Strange, MW is one of the few set and forget and never have to mess with it projects I run. Has a fixed limit on the number of tasks it allows on a host and reasonable deadlines I have never missed. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
halfempty Send message Joined: 2 Jun 99 Posts: 97 Credit: 35,236,901 RAC: 114 |
Strange, MW is one of the few set and forget and never have to mess with it projects I run. Has a fixed limit on the number of tasks it allows on a host and reasonable deadlines I have never missed.If it had a reasonable resource share it would behave, but if I gave it a tiny one just to keep it around in the background, it wouldn't. With shares down to 2% it would get 300+ tasks then go into panic mode to make the deadline when it approached. Maybe I didn't give it enough time, but after about 2 months it would get on my nerves. Wound up setting NNT and manually connecting every so often to get about 150 tasks and set it back to NNT. You're right it has never been greedy to the point of over committing what the system is capable of, just not respecting its boundaries. Guess it's more of a BOINC client problem than MW, but I don't think that will be an issue in the future because I wouldn't be as protective of other projects as I am of SETI. As long as they work it out in the end, I'll let them fight it out among themselves for the most part. |
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