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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Got 16 on one host that went to immediate download backoff. No luck in budging them through. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
andivb Send message Joined: 9 Aug 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 14,510,909 RAC: 2 |
Getting "No tasks available" with 770k ready to send on the server. I gave up trying to understand the logic behind this... |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Getting "No tasks available" with 770k ready to send on the server. I gave up trying to understand the logic behind this... 100 other hosts beat you to the RTS buffer first. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Getting "No tasks available" with 770k ready to send on the server. I gave up trying to understand the logic behind this... . . :) . . There are clearly still issues to be worked out ... :( . . Unless those 100 hosts got 8,000 WUs each :) Stephen ? ? |
Ville Saari Send message Joined: 30 Nov 00 Posts: 1158 Credit: 49,177,052 RAC: 82,530 |
I got 'no tasks available' again and again. Then I though maybe those 100 other hosts are hitting the server at the same five minute frequency as my host but so that my host always hits it just after them. So for the next update I disabled network activity before the timer reached zero. And then when it had zeroed, I waited another 10 seconds before enabling network activity. The client requested stuff right after I enabled it and immediately got a bunch of tasks! But I guess this was just a coincidence because all the requests after that have resulted 'no tasks available' despite this phase shift. |
andivb Send message Joined: 9 Aug 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 14,510,909 RAC: 2 |
Getting "No tasks available" with 770k ready to send on the server. I gave up trying to understand the logic behind this... For the record: the 770k was "0m" ago. Something is broken. Btw, is there some kind of bug tracker somewhere where the issues are tracked and addressed? |
Tagged Send message Joined: 6 Oct 02 Posts: 2 Credit: 105,573,486 RAC: 241 |
Getting "No tasks available" with 770k ready to send on the server. I gave up trying to understand the logic behind this... Nothing is broken .. there's just (tens of) thousands of machines hitting the server wanting units. RTS is now 330k. Truthfully, even if you did get WUs assigned, you probably couldn't download them due to those machines being overwhelmed also. This is very normal following long outages .. it will be back to normal in a day or so. |
HAL Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 535 Credit: 8,246,955 RAC: 3 |
All systems here up and running - maybe 10% left "Downloading" :-) I'm putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all, I think, that any conscious entity can ever hope to do. |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
I had a lot of downloads pending when I got back from my "Dinner date" with a guy who is willing to buy me steak :) So I hit the retry and there for a while I was getting "http: failed transient error" issues. But as I write, the queue is now downloading...... Ah, Sweat Seti! Tom ps. I now have both gpu and cpu tasks running.... the cache is not even close to full but at least I got "some". A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Getting "No tasks available" with 770k ready to send on the server. I gave up trying to understand the logic behind this... The actual buffer that you download from only holds about 250 tasks at any time. Constantly replenishes from the RTS buffer that shows on the SSP. If 5 hosts hit it at the same time and get 50 tasks, it empties very fast before refilling. If your request comes in after it was emptied, you get the "no tasks are available" message. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Lots of stalled downloads on my hosts. The project will eventually clear the congestion and hosts will get normal returns and requests fulfilled. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Niteryder Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 64 Credit: 22,663,988 RAC: 18 |
+1 No downloads are going through. |
Freewill Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 766 Credit: 354,398,348 RAC: 11,693 |
Getting "No tasks available" with 770k ready to send on the server. I gave up trying to understand the logic behind this... I don't understand why they don't make the 250 task buffer larger. Seems to be a bottleneck. Can't get enough jobs to keep my top machine's GPUs busy. Why does it keep giving that one CPU tasks? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65845 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I got 34 sogs. All hail the sogs, My 970's ought to love them. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
That buffer might be in Ram. Until they have SSD's installed, it might be "too slow" to use a regular HD. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I don't understand why they don't make the 250 task buffer larger. Seems to be a bottleneck. Don't know, probably something to do with the I/O to the buffer and how many concurrent http connections the download server can handle. Don't know enough about server hardware to make a better guess. Depends on the host. Most of my hosts will ALWAYS fill the gpu cache before ever asking to fill the cpu cache. On one host though, it gets cpu work first and then fills the gpu cache. Something to do with the APR of the applications and what the scheduler thinks is the faster bit of hardware. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Freewill Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 766 Credit: 354,398,348 RAC: 11,693 |
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Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
The actual buffer that you download from only holds about 250 tasks at any time. Constantly replenishes from the RTS buffer that shows on the SSP. If 5 hosts hit it at the same time and get 50 tasks, it empties very fast before refilling. If your request comes in after it was emptied, you get the "no tasks are available" message. . . True, but I liked the imagery and I am sure there are still some knots to be unravelled. Stephen :( |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I'm pretty sure my (idle) 2070 Supers are faster than the i7-5820K. ;) But I never suggested the BOINC client code and the scheduler code was logical. It is way more convoluted and I don't think anyone that has ever looked at it would state it works the same way, every time under all circumstances. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Kevin Olley Send message Joined: 3 Aug 99 Posts: 906 Credit: 261,085,289 RAC: 572 |
ATM you are No 30 on E@H top computers list wit an RAC of over 1,017,000 I have just cracked No 25 :-) Just got a reasonable bunch of Seti WU's with a fair No of CPU's, Hopefully the cache will refill properly now. Kevin |
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