Should we retitle this:
THE FAKE NEWS THREAD?
All in our only one stupid world?
Martin

Probably not a bad idea, that's why I included the ABC poll, to accommodate the aficionados of those outlets.......begs the question of why it's not believable when it's in favor of The President?
.....inconvenient facts........

Inconvenient facts?
A Swedish proverb "Även en blind höna kan finna ett korn" (a blind hen can also find a grain).
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4ven_en_blind_h%C3%B6na_kan_finna_ett_korn
Meaning even a simple or ignorant person can sometimes get things right.

Meaning even a simple or ignorant person can sometimes get things right.

Four more 'inconvenient' facts........

@Clyde, the unwashed masses in the Press are usually the ones who start these donnybrooks with their VERY STUPID stock questions, trying to get a sound byte they can boost their ratings with. They ALL know that The President is a counter puncher who does not 'suffer fools lightly'. They bait him at every chance then whine and 'scream at the sky' when he calls them out for what they are.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Now that we have stopped laughing at describing a Never Trump News outlet as "FAKE NEWS" by... :-D

A serious concern:

Does anyone, who are Pro Trump, believe that Trump "hijacking" yesterday's COVID 19 news conference with anti press accusations, correct to do this?

IMHO: It doesn't matter if Trump is correct in his belief that the Never Trump press is disgusting and worse. This was not the time or occasion to do this.

I'm certainly not pro-Trump (and living in faraway southern Africa, I'm merely an outside observer). However, I watched that press conference. Trump's performance in response to a rational and legitimate question from a journalist was, in a word, shameful. Had I been Peter Alexander, I'd have stood up and stopped him in his tracks. His boorish, insulting and incoherent rant was an insult to your entire nation.

As for Trump's ongoing bs about a drug that's going to stop this pandemic, well, frankly, he's living in cloud cuckoo land.

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Four more 'inconvenient' facts........

Those statements are not inconvenient. That's what's a state leader is supposed do. But closing borders and saying "our country first" and start trading wars is not good for anyone. Note that that this statement is an AND statement not an OR statement.

Eye I remember a man whose 2021 budget included a 16 percent reduction in CDC funding and eliminated a position tasked with coordinating a global pandemic response, reduced national health spending by $15 billion, cut the USAID program designed for the detection of zoonotic viruses with pandemic potential.
Truly a great leader!

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Does anyone, who are Pro Trump, believe that Trump "hijacking" yesterday's COVID 19 news conference with anti press accusations, correct to do this?

I Do. Yup and Yep

FAKE News JerkWads deserve a Verbal Spanking Every Time they ASK for One. And He and Others Like Him, Ask for It ALL dA Time.

As Lou Says: We are Not Buttercups and Daffodils. REAL AMERICANs LOVE SUPERTrump and EveryThang he does and says.

Yep and Yup

RUBEWorld Standing on High Mountain Ridge Suckin' in da Sun.

orange yape

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

As Lou Says: We are Not Buttercups and Daffodils. REAL AMERICANs LOVE SUPERTrump and EveryThang he does and says.
Yep and Yup

Please define REAL AMERICANs to us outsiders.
Are you like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJDAVvs_JA
Is Donald Trump a "Real American"? Well not according to himself who claimed his grandfather is from Karlstad, Sweden.

As for Trump's ongoing bs about a drug that's going to stop this pandemic, well, frankly, he's living in cloud cuckoo land.

For the benefit of those who believe it's BS here's a link to the peer reviewed study done in France in the last week regarding these treatments IN HUMANS.

"And I’m here to report that as of this morning, about 5:00 this morning, a well-controlled peer-reviewed study carried out by the most eminent infectious disease specialist in the world—Didier Raoult, MD, PhD—out of the south of France, in which he enrolled 40 patients, again, a well-controlled peer review study, that showed a 100 percent cure rate against coronavirus. The study was released this morning on my Twitter account, @Riganoesq as well as our most recent website, @covidtrial.io. The study was recently accepted to the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents by Elsevier."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view
I am also in possession of another peer reviewed study of the virological components and actions of the COVID19 virus. It is in .pdf format which I attempted to post here with no success. Any guidance to posting this would be appreciated and I will do so. This study was done by

Jose Ordovas-Montanes
Principal Investigator
Research Faculty Boston Children's Hospital
Assistant Professor Harvard Medical School
https://www.ordovas-montanes-lab.com/
Any medically learned readers of this thread are welcome to peruse the findings made by very smart biological scientists.

If this pdf cannot be posted here a PM to me with your email address will receive a copy of the study.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/french-peer-reviewed-study-our-treatment-cured-100-of-coronavirus-patients?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Perhaps you still don't understand that today there are no cure against the corona virus SARS-CoV-2 that causes the COVID-19. There are plenty of companies that are working on it but everyone of them are also saying that it will take at least one year to release a working drug or vaccine. Then of course there are companies that are looking for funding...

It seems that they have a wire loose. :-)
"An unexpected error has occurred."

Perhaps you still don't understand that today there are no cure against the corona virus SARS-CoV-2 that causes the COVID-19. There are plenty of companies that are working on it but everyone of them are also saying that it will take at least one year to release a working drug or vaccine. Then of course there are companies that are looking for funding...

Hackaday had a good article on the basic process and timescale for the yearly flu jab:

THE STRAIN OF FLU SHOT LOGISTICS

Even with emergency rules and willingness to jump over certain standard procedures it is going to take time for a vaccine.

That's assuming a vaccine is needed in a year or so and some other nasty hasn't reared it's head.

Hackaday had a good article on the basic process and timescale for the yearly flu jab:
THE STRAIN OF FLU SHOT LOGISTICS

Yes. Reading that article after just eating an egg sandwich...
Anyway:)

Developing, producing, and distributing millions of vaccines every year is a massive operation that never stops, or even slows down a little bit. It’s basically Santa Claus territory — if Santa Claus delivered us all from mass epidemics.

I think that's the timescale we are about to face. Less infected people in the upcoming summer, then in the late autumn a rapid rise like all flus do. Then Santa or Tomten as we say in Scandinavia will help us for a while in the winter. Then cough, cough, cough again.
But perhaps someone remember the SARS-CoV-1 virus ten years ago. That outbreak didn't turn out to be so bad.
But it looks like SARS-CoV-2 is more aggressive though... We will see.

Excuse me, but have there been enough cases in France long enough for there to have been a study done and confirmation of cure? Remember these have to be confirmed cases and then you have to talk them into a study, so you likely need 100's of cases to get 40. Or did he just happen to find out that most people naturally get over the virus and call them cured?


PS, you can't post a .pdf, you can only post a link to it.

Always consider the source.

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moomin, I'm aware there isn't a vaccine that can be used as a prophylactic prevention, and that to develop, manufacture and distribute what will amount to billions of doses will take many months if not years. But there does appear to be drug therapy available that seems to disrupt the ability of the virus to infect target cells in human lung tissue one being Chloroquine.

These drugs are approved for other conditions and can be used for CoVID19 cases that are in the most danger under 'compassionate' regulations. This use would also supply vital information as to efficacy of the therapy. The French trial would look to have been successful if you believe the Doctors.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

moomin, I'm aware there isn't a vaccine that can be used as a prophylactic prevention, and that to develop, manufacture and distribute what will amount to billions of doses will take many months if not years. But there does appear to be drug therapy available that seems to disrupt the ability of the virus to infect target cells in human lung tissue one being Chloroquine.

These drugs are approved for other conditions and can be used for CoVID19 cases that are in the most danger under 'compassionate' regulations. This use would also supply vital information as to efficacy of the therapy. The French trial would look to have been successful if you believe the Doctors.

But is Chloroquine really gonna work against COVID-19? I mean it's a drug to compete parasites, not viruses. Maybe some COVID-19 patients can be helped with that drug. I'm not an epidemiologist but it seems very odd that they will do. Anyway we are talking about thousands of patients, not hundreds...
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/is-hype-over-chloroquine-as-a-potential-covid-19-therapy-justified--67301
If chloroquine is shown to be effective against SARS-CoV-2, it will not be via the same mechanism by which the drug functions as an antimalarial. That’s because malaria is caused not by a virus but by a microparasite of the Plasmodium genus.

moomin, I'm aware there isn't a vaccine that can be used as a prophylactic prevention, and that to develop, manufacture and distribute what will amount to billions of doses will take many months if not years. But there does appear to be drug therapy available that seems to disrupt the ability of the virus to infect target cells in human lung tissue one being Chloroquine.

These drugs are approved for other conditions and can be used for CoVID19 cases that are in the most danger under 'compassionate' regulations. This use would also supply vital information as to efficacy of the therapy. The French trial would look to have been successful if you believe the Doctors.

But is Chloroquine really gonna work against COVID-19? I mean it's a drug to compete parasites, not viruses. Maybe some COVID-19 patients can be helped with that drug. I'm not an epidemiologist but it seems very odd that they will do. Anyway we are talking about thousands of patients, not hundreds...
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/is-hype-over-chloroquine-as-a-potential-covid-19-therapy-justified--67301
If chloroquine is shown to be effective against SARS-CoV-2, it will not be via the same mechanism by which the drug functions as an antimalarial. That’s because malaria is caused not by a virus but by a microparasite of the Plasmodium genus.

Actually there are 2 old drugs that have been proved in the laboratory to kill the virus, that old malaria drug as well as an old HIV drug (likely the later is being ignored ATM in the U.S. due to what is was originally developed for).

But isn't it interesting that the U.S. leadership for so long called this pandemic nothing but a "Democrat Hoax" and then suddenly tries to take credit for doing things that are only riding on the shirt tails of other countries hard work?

Totally unbelievable.

Even JE's number of 40 is questionable, doing a search the number was 24 at all sites I did a quick scan of.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

tRump "No I don't take responsibility at all." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxG241bExqY&feature=youtu.be
tRump "keeping Governors in command" https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/trump-coronavirus-task-force-briefing/index.html

He knows it is going to hell and he hasn't a clue what to do and he has to smell good, so pass the buck. Not a leader but a filthy scoundrel, the destroyer of America.