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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
In a rare move, a secretive federal surveillance court this week found that the FBI misled judges about the rationale for wiretapping a former Trump campaign adviser and ordered the bureau to propose changes to ensure that it doesn’t happen again. You are conflating criminal behavior with following the oath of office in spite of orders to do other. |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
An AOPA Air Safety Foundation video I recently saw had a very good explanation of the Deep State. There was a flight instructor at a flight school and he was a maverick. He would take his students (beginners) up and do the normal training and also add a bit, he would do some aerobatics. Nothing really wrong with giving someone a ride, except he was doing in it an aircraft that wasn't built to do aerobatics and it was teaching his students bad habits and things that were well beyond their skills. The other instructors knew and a couple told him to knock it off, but he didn't. They did not notify management. They wanted to get along. They did not notify regulators. They wanted to get along. One day as you can imagine the aerobatics caught up with the airplane that was not built for it. No survivors. So they saw something and didn't say something. Unlike the "deep state" whistle-blower who saw something and said something. One must remember the right believes in individuals, not humanity. They never see a greater good, just what is in it for them at the moment. -- If I make noise that would upset the system and be bad for me, so keep mouth shut. Very short term view. In that context it really becomes obvious who is the deep state and where the spring is that feeds the swamp. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
One must always remember the rights description of the left is clouded by their paranoia and how they would run things. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Take out the Left, Centre & Right, what "other" people are you referring to?One must always remember the rights description of the left is clouded by their paranoia and how they would run things. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Take out the Left, Centre & Right, what "other" people are you referring to?One must always remember the rights' description of the left is clouded by their paranoia and how they would run things. There is the left, there is the right, there are the anarchists and there are the statists who occupy the corners of a geometric plane and then the center. I see many posts here where left and right are used but the person saying it is actually thinking of Statism or perhaps Anarchy. One hopes this is done in error and not intentionally, for the latter would be trolling. Political Reality is N dimensional with N planes at right angles to each other. Few can properly conceptualize such a system so it is normally only given as a 2 dimensional plane. Persons who have problems with such simple geometry attempt to simplify farther to a single line which is a dismal failure. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20359 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Who thinks Rump can't tell the difference between a Russian bot and a human? What? Has Trump passed or failed the Turing test? Wonders never are to be underestimated... All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
What the right wing press does is one thing. What a President, in this case Disgusting Donald did. Is something very, very serious.While probably not 'in good taste', I doubt there are 500 people in the country who have not previously seen the name in print. I posted it here myself a month ago and it was removed by admin.(a move I fully understand due to the possible legal ramifications and the cost of defending a suit against SETI and Cal Berkeley). However, this 'whistle blower' is not a white knight seeking to right social wrong or reveal criminal actions(remember NO CRIMES have been alleged, just nebulous and questionable concepts of 'Abuse of power and Obstruction of Congress'), and in my view he is himself a criminal guilty of perjury and participating in an attempted coup of an elected President, and therefore should not deserve anonymity. The Sixth Amendment states the right of the accused to face and question all accusers in a criminal action. The fact that his sponsors feel his identity should be concealed would seem to call into question whether the prosecuting body actually believe the Impeachment is charging High Crimes or Misdemeanors. That his privacy is in jeopardy is no different than the privacy of Trump supporters in restaurants and other public venues and in some cases their private residences which has been assaulted repeatedly. If the Dims who placed him in this position are truly concerned for his well being they should provide professional protection for him and possibly his family. Just another tempest in a teacup. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Same as you call the cops there is a suspicious car driving by. Of course the police send your name to the paper and TV station so you can get your death threats. Some people have agendas. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
in addition to the pro Democrat's in Federal Law EnforcementAre you suggesting the pro Republicans' in law enforcement are refusing to do their sworn job and investigate potential wrong doing by a republican? noun: coup; plural noun: coups; noun: coup d'état; plural noun: coup d'états; plural noun: coups d'état a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. coupAre you suggesting the Constitution does not include a provision for impeachment or that it is somehow violent and illegal? BTW none of this is "sudden" especially considering that the speaker hasn't even transmitted the articles to the Senate. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
@ Clyde No matter what you, or I believe about an individual whistle blower. No President should place any whistle blower and his/her family in jeopardy. We have always respectfully disagreed on many things, and this is another. I do not believe The President placed Mr X in any greater jeopardy than has already been achieved, on his own efforts, by agreeing to be a part of, at best an attempted coup which could conceivably devolve into an outright insurrection. I do believe The President engages in too much social media expression of his beliefs, and that in this case his silence would have probably been worth more than seeming to 'jump on the bandwagon'. If nothing else Donald Trump has proven he is not 'the bigger man', but rather a human being that does not respond gently to ill treatment. On that philosophy I applaud him. Conservatives have been the object of much defaming and outright hatred and violence(Steve Scalise, speakers and marchers in Berkeley and Seattle) for many years by elected Dims and groups like Antifa, without notable 'return fire'. I also believe that period of time is coming rapidly to an end. I don't like everything The President says and does, but again, he's human and flawed just like every other person. But his intentions are good as are the results he has achieved in his First term. .........I can't wait to see what his 2nd four years in office will do for the economy and pride of the American people. And here's another bit of humor I found regarding the faux impeachment...... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19091 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Is that the phones and anything else he uses OR his hands that you would break. (logically OR includes AND, ) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Will the corruption ever end? https://apnews.com/0641c2b37886a08240d0ba64c9319699 MIAMI (AP) — Erik Prince, a major Republican donor and founder of controversial security firm Blackwater, has been referred to the U.S. Treasury Department for possible sanctions violations tied to his recent trip to Venezuela for a meeting with a top aide of President Nicolas Maduro, two senior U.S. officials said. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If his wife breaks the devices over his head and you were on the jury during her trial. Justifiable = Jury Nullification? |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Pre Trump confirmation. The posting of a possible name, was just that. As it's the same name, I stand by my statement. A secret everyone knows, is not a secret. The fact there are so many images of him in the company of high ranking Dims prior to the Ukraine phone call says it all about his true motivation......the overthrow of an Elected President of the United States by hearsay, innuendo and unsubstantiated statements(lies). I'm sure his reward will be in the form of a book deal and that some truly gullible people will actually read the garbage. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I'm sure Rump's catch and kill has made all the pictures of the alleged person with high ranking Rep's go away. |
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