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Message 2013786 - Posted: 30 Sep 2019, 10:32:57 UTC - in response to Message 2013779.  

Do you have duplicated IP addresses for anything on your network?

Ah ha!!! This was the problem. But I always knew that the Pis each had 2 IPs. Problem was, I was inadvertently using the wireless IPs even though I had the wireless connection to the Pis blocked in the router. I changed the IPs and now have remote access and BT see them too.

To prevent a repeat, I'd suggest turning off the WiFi in the Pi's. Saves electricity too.
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/43720/disable-wifi-wlan0-on-pi-3

Hi Gary,

I just edited /boot/config.txt and placed these 2 lines in each Pis file:
dtoverlay=pi3-disable-wifi
dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt


I shut down BOINC and rebooted each Pi. I logged into the router and all that is showing now is the wired IP address for each Pi, no more wireless IPs.

Thanks and have a good day! :)

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Message 2014420 - Posted: 6 Oct 2019, 19:05:39 UTC
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Greetings,

PlayOnLinux is a POS!!!

I spent most of the morning trying to get World of Warcraft running on Linux. Everything went fine, the launcher was installed and running and it had installed WoW. I copied whole directories from my Winders install, for things like addons and account stuff. I could not get WoW to run. One thing I saw on the Internet was the use of PlayOnLinux in reference to WoW. Before that, from another website, I created a script for attempting to run WoW. It was trying to run in 64 bit and the script would force 32 bit. That didn't work. Then there was something about OpenGL and NVIDIA. I added another piece of code to the script, still would not run. Here's the script:
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WINEDEBUG=-all __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 wine "/home/rick/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/World of Warcraft/_retail_/WoW.exe" -noautolaunch64bit -opengl
#WINEDEBUG=-all wine "/home/rick/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/World of Warcraft/_retail_/WoW.exe"

The "-noautolaunch64bit" was at the end of the last commented line of test. That gave me 2 errors about reading memory in 64 bit mode. So I moved it to the line above it and commented the second line. That only gave me 1 error, but still would not run WoW.

Then I remembered PlayOnLinux...

I went and installed PlayOnLinux from the repo. Ok, things went swimmingly (British term I think, that I picked up). That completely screwed up my whole Wine installation. Commands in terminal were telling me that this is wrong and that is wrong and this needs to be installed, etc. So now, the WoW launcher will not run and BOINCTasks will not either. Now I have to START ALL OVER! :(

I don't know what PlayOnLinux is (yeah I know, it's a "front end" for Wine), but it should not mess with an existing installation of Wine, at least NOT without any warnings and an option not to install it. :(

I'll be back with results of my... whatever you want to call it, fix? I guess that's as good term as any.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Well, BT still runs so I'm leaving Wine and it as is. I did, however, get rid of all traces of WoW. Got a bunch of disk space back. :)
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Message 2017388 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 17:31:16 UTC

Greetings,

As you may or may not know, I have Linux Mint 19.2 and Winders 10 dual booting on this PC. They're both booted from a 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD. A full list of specs can be seen on my profile page. Every so often when I end processes in Linux to boot into Winders, I click restart and I get the splash screen which shows when running from a Live version or when starting to install. It's the Mint logo center screen with the 5 or 6 dots under it that change from white to green to white to green etc.

Can anyone explain how I can eliminate this from happening? Or, do I just have to live with it because it is a fluke and no one has figured it out yet?

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Message 2017397 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 18:25:53 UTC

That sounds like the standard Mint shutdown counter, which can take some time if there are applications running that aren't shutting down quickly or properly. Sometimes (if you are lucky) you will get a message flash up telling you the id number(s) for the offenders.
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Message 2017404 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 19:38:27 UTC

Could it be just the normal splash screen? I always disable that in the kernel command line. Just delete the 'quiet splash' and save the grub file.
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Message 2017408 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 20:56:49 UTC
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Also use Mint 19.2 with Win10 dual boot. Normally I don't get the splash screen when rebooting, if I do it's only for 1 -2 sec.

Exception is when I have used Timershift to do a snapshot and reboot, then I get the splash for a looong time, often more than 20 mins. Have no idea why but it's more than annoying.
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Message 2017411 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 21:26:22 UTC

I used separate drives for my 2 main rigs for Linux and disconnected their Windows drives while setting them up so now I just use the F12 BIOS option when I want to boot back into Win7.

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Message 2017412 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 21:48:22 UTC - in response to Message 2017404.  

Could it be just the normal splash screen? I always disable that in the kernel command line. Just delete the 'quiet splash' and save the grub file.

Hi Keith,

When I click "Restart", after shutting down BOINC and stuff, I get some text and then the PC goes through POST and then I get Grub. The splash screen I'm seeing, once in a while after clicking "Restart", is what gets displayed when booting into the Live USB. The Mint logo is center screen with 5 or 6 white dots under it and each one turns green, then when they're all green, they start turning white, etc., etc. I don't think Grub has anything to do with it. I wouldn't know how to deal with grub anyway, except for booting either Linux or Winders. ;)

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Message 2017413 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 21:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 2017411.  

I used separate drives for my 2 main rigs for Linux and disconnected their Windows drives while setting them up so now I just use the F12 BIOS option when I want to boot back into Win7.

Cheers.

Hi Wiggo,

That would work, but... I like booting from my M.2 NVMe drive. It's so much faster. I have 2 M.2 slots, 1 PCIe the other SATA. I do like that idea though. :)

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Message 2017535 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 8:42:56 UTC

Siran,
Late to the party here, but a quick comment on adding computers to BoincTasks.
I used to have a lot of strange issues with timeouts and dropped connections.
I solved that issue by using the remote computers' MAC addresses rather than IP addresses or machine names when defining them.
Seems to have made the whole installation much more stable.
Just fwiw ...
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Message 2017536 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 9:51:15 UTC - in response to Message 2017535.  

Siran,
Late to the party here, but a quick comment on adding computers to BoincTasks.
I used to have a lot of strange issues with timeouts and dropped connections.
I solved that issue by using the remote computers' MAC addresses rather than IP addresses or machine names when defining them.
Seems to have made the whole installation much more stable.
Just fwiw ...
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Hi Jim,

You're only late to the party if the party is over. lol ;)

I have that squared away now; all connections are good. I do like your idea though. Seems that even if the IP address changes for a device, the connection would still be made by using the MAC address. Perhaps I'll see if I can figure out MAC addresses for all my devices and use them instead. The router should supply the MACs. Thanks for the idea. :)

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Message 2017577 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 18:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 2017536.  
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I have that squared away now; all connections are good. I do like your idea though. Seems that even if the IP address changes for a device, the connection would still be made by using the MAC address. Perhaps I'll see if I can figure out MAC addresses for all my devices and use them instead. The router should supply the MACs. Thanks for the idea. :)
I got sick of messing with stuff, so I took somewhat of a strange path on things.
1) as mentioned, used MACs for BoincTasks,
2) set all capable devices for DHCP,
3) in the top-end router, defined each MAC address with the IP address I wanted the DHCP server to give it, (nice feature, that) grouped in order by machine type. e.g.
1 -     top-end router and DNS server
2-9 -   printers, terminal servers, Vonage, other infrastructure
10-20 - other routers, wireless extenders, access points, etc., if any
30 -    spare
40-59 - PCs, notebooks, tablets, etc
60-79 - TVs, DVDs, BluRays, etc.
80-99 - cameras
100-254 - other adhoc (normal) DHCP

So at a glance, seeing an IP address in a log, wireshark, etc. I know what type of device it is, and can go right to the DHCP table in the router to see the device name if needed. All the advantages of true static IPs, with all the flexibility of DHCP.
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Message 2017594 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 21:21:20 UTC - in response to Message 2017577.  

Hi Jim,

Man, I don't know if I'd want to go that far. But for my 9 devices, it sounds good.

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Message 2017660 - Posted: 3 Nov 2019, 3:15:44 UTC

Siran, that sounds like the splash screen for Mint. You can control whether you want to see that by editing the kernel command line in the grub file. The grub file is just a handy and easy place to automatically invoke that command at each boot.
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Message 2017676 - Posted: 3 Nov 2019, 11:24:34 UTC - in response to Message 2017660.  

Siran, that sounds like the splash screen for Mint. You can control whether you want to see that by editing the kernel command line in the grub file. The grub file is just a handy and easy place to automatically invoke that command at each boot.

Hi Keith,

Yes, it is the splash screen for Mint. It only pops up once in a while so I'll just live with it. I am not comfortable with editing a Grub file, especially since the only one I can find states "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE." that is for booting Linux or Winders. I looked through the file and didn't see anything about a "splash screen". The splash screen doesn't do anything but change the color of the 5 or 6 dots under the logo. I have waited for something to happen for a minute or so and nothing does happen so I hold the power button down to shut off and restart the PC that way. I'll just live with it.

Thanks and have a great day! :)

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Message 2017692 - Posted: 3 Nov 2019, 12:52:42 UTC - in response to Message 2017676.  
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If you're only seeing the splash screen once in a while, that may just be that the bootup is taking a little longer than usual due to a slow network response or possibly due to a periodic filesystem check.

Set to use no-splash to see all the bootup gibberish to see what is happening. Great stuff for oldies who used to enjoy the music of the old dialup modems connecting... ;-)


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Message 2018063 - Posted: 7 Nov 2019, 14:45:29 UTC - in response to Message 2017660.  

Siran, that sounds like the splash screen for Mint. You can control whether you want to see that by editing the kernel command line in the grub file. The grub file is just a handy and easy place to automatically invoke that command at each boot.

Hi Keith,

Ok, I decided to be patient to see what happens. Yesterday or the day before I had another splash screen event going from Linux to Winders. So I sat watching the 5 dots change from white to green to white, etc. After about a minute or so, the screen went blank and then there was a non-blinking cursor in the upper left corner and the logo went away but... The 5 dots were still there going from white to green to white, etc. At that point I held the power button down to shut the PC off. Then I re-booted into Winders.

As I mentioned the other day, I can only find one Grub file that can be edited called "grub.cfg", but at the very top it says NOT to edit this file. Where do I turn off that splash screen? I scanned through that file and didn't see anything relating to a splash screen.

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Message 2018064 - Posted: 7 Nov 2019, 14:49:17 UTC - in response to Message 2017692.  

If you're only seeing the splash screen once in a while, that may just be that the bootup is taking a little longer than usual due to a slow network response or possibly due to a periodic filesystem check.

Set to use no-splash to see all the bootup gibberish to see what is happening. Great stuff for oldies who used to enjoy the music of the old dialup modems connecting... ;-)


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Hi Martin,

Are you talking about going into the BIOS and turning off the splash screen? The Mint splash screen I see shows up right after I click "Restart". The PC doesn't even get to POST at that time.

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Message 2018072 - Posted: 7 Nov 2019, 16:31:48 UTC

DO NOT go into the BIOS and hunt for the Linux (or indeed any other operating system) splash screen as you won't find it. You have to look in the Boot sequence for the operating screen, and be VERY careful only disable the image, not any actions that are taking place while the splash screen is being displayed.
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DO NOT go into the BIOS and hunt for the Linux (or indeed any other operating system) splash screen as you won't find it. You have to look in the Boot sequence for the operating screen, and be VERY careful only disable the image, not any actions that are taking place while the splash screen is being displayed.

Hi Rob,

The splash screen I meant, in the BIOS, is the one that the motherboard defaults to if you don't want to see what the BIOS is doing during POST and what-not. Mine shows the Asus logo and their slogan "In Search of Incredible". I know one cannot find OS splash screens in the BIOS. :)

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The PC doesn't even get to the boot loader before I see the Mint splash screen. The PC hasn't even gone through POST yet. So something else is putting that splash screen up when I click "Restart" when going to boot into Winders.
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