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Message 2048827 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 9:39:36 UTC

Use common sense says Foreign Secretary...
...hmm...
2 Americanisms come to mind.
SNAFU, definitely...
FUBAR...
...not yet!
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Message 2048830 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 11:19:57 UTC

Covid-19 is showing up a lot of issues where what is often been taken for granted, is now becoming very serious for many.
Lifelines curtailed
Likewise, he says young children now, even those not yet born, whose parents' income is diminished by the decline in remittances, will "be much more likely to pass away, to be undernourished, to drop out of school to supplement family income. And those are things that future researchers will be able to detect, unfortunately, in the data 50 to 70 years from now."
I wonder if at that time, historians will look at governments of 2020 handling of the pandemic?
The article does provide a link to an interesting study. Is the 1918 pandemic over
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Message 2048847 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 13:26:01 UTC - in response to Message 2048830.  

I think this pandemic experience, once it's over, could and should spark some fundamental re-thought of the economic 'financial system'.

We're used to hearing about big figures like "money supply" and "Gross Domestic Product", but it's become much clearer to me that we have to think much more about micro-scale money flow.

I'm middle class, in the UK sense. That's probably posher than the American (USA) use of the term. I get my pension monthly, paid into the bank. I've got a debit card, a pre-approved overdraft, a credit card - my bills are mostly paid monthly or annually by direct debit.

The same will be true of national politicians and senior civil servants. It's the way we all live - and the way we all think. It's normal - for us.

But half of it has stopped moving. My weekly shopping trip will still pay the shelf-stacker's wage, but my empty pint glass isn't paying the barmaid. All those little micro-transactions aren't noticed until they stop. Except by those wage-earners who need to keep it moving on down the chain to the next shop or childminder.

But the big bills - the rent and the utilities - just keep piling up. The unravelling will be painful - and that's just the national problems, before the overseas remittances are even considered.
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Message 2048855 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 17:22:22 UTC

Very enlightening blog regarding infection risks and rates while re-opening society.....written by a Comparative Immunologist and Biology Professor..
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR2QBG4WmZXimtGqu_efRGP4gzLmHOET4zxH10C-pTiMwmWCZhrT0IgESs4

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Message 2048864 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 20:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 2048430.  

Canada for many years had a law that in order for a brewery to sell beer in each province they had to brew it in that province.

Seems to me that China, Turkey and other 'Global' manufacturing centers have taught the world a very good lesson...........

.....namely if you want to insure the quality of products needed locally they should be made locally........

Goodbye to 'The New World Order' and hello to 'Keep It At Home'.....which includes goods, jobs, wages and tax revenue.

Family First, Community Second, then worry about the price kumquats in Rangoon.

Hopefully, the 'The New World Order', which does sound suspiciously like something Adolf and Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili wished for, is coming to an end.


You know, if you hang around this world long enough, you get to see some things.
Like globalization efforts. From the 1970's until the present, it was the right wing that supported the corporate strategy of moving production to the third world.
Now righties are suddenly sounding like organized labour fighting against the globalists.
All I can do is laugh at them.
They're like a f@rt in a windstorm, going wherever the wind takes them.
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I fight them because they are fascists.
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Message 2048867 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 20:55:51 UTC - in response to Message 2048864.  

Now righties are suddenly sounding like organized labour fighting against the globalists.
All I can do is laugh at them.


I'm not sure if I would laugh at them or cry for their inability to see that the old adage "Look after the pence and the pounds will look after themselves" is just as true now as when it was first uttered.
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Message 2048874 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 21:35:46 UTC - in response to Message 2048867.  

I'm not sure if I would laugh at them or cry for their inability to see that the old adage "Look after the pence and the pounds will look after themselves" is just as true now as when it was first uttered.
+1. An oldie but golden.

You know, if you hang around this world long enough, you get to see some things.
Another +1.
Not taken a screenshot because it'll identity the man.
Recently got a missed call & a text message one Sunday at 17:45 (not yesterday). Had popped out to my local shop to get some milk, always leave my phone at home for those little trips.
Seeing who the missed call was from, thought if urgent, he'll call back.
Checked out the text message: "Where are you? My computer is faulty".
I kid you not. Keeping that on my phone for future reference.
I'll let you all imagine what my thoughts were regarding that message. :-)
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Message 2048887 - Posted: 11 May 2020, 22:51:57 UTC

I Agree wif Doc B.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/11/doctor-deborah-birx-coronavirus-covid-19-death-toll-inflated-numbers-cases-cdc-white-house-meeting-report/

I like agreeing wif da Truth.

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Message 2048922 - Posted: 12 May 2020, 8:52:27 UTC

This time last night (my time) Russia had leap frogged both the U.K. and Italy into 3rd place by reported cases, but this morning the U.K. had taken 3rd spot for a short time as Russia has just shoved right past them and now has its sights on Spain's 2nd place. :-O

Brazil looks like it'll push past Germany for 7th place by tomorrow and then they'll threaten France's 6th place a day or so later. India has jumped Canada for 12th place and is now off after China while Peru looks to take Canada next.

Meanwhile Japan is now down to 34th spot, South Korea's down to 40th and Australia is now down to 50th spot.
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Message 2048923 - Posted: 12 May 2020, 9:02:49 UTC - in response to Message 2048922.  

This time last night (my time) Russia had leap frogged both the U.K. and Italy into 3rd place by reported cases, but this morning the U.K. had taken 3rd spot for a short time as Russia has just shoved right past them and now has its sights on Spain's 2nd place. :-O

Brazil looks like it'll push past Germany for 7th place by tomorrow and then they'll threaten France's 6th place a day or so later. India has jumped Canada for 12th place and is now off after China while Peru looks to take Canada next.

Meanwhile Japan is now down to 34th spot, South Korea's down to 40th and Australia is now down to 50th spot.

The John Hopkins page show Russia in 2nd place.

And on AP there is a report that Iran's death total, as disclosed from the research arm of the government, is close to 12,000 nearly double the official figure from the Health Ministry.
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Message 2048925 - Posted: 12 May 2020, 10:09:48 UTC - in response to Message 2048923.  

The John Hopkins page show Russia in 2nd place.

And on AP there is a report that Iran's death total, as disclosed from the research arm of the government, is close to 12,000 nearly double the official figure from the Health Ministry.
I'll stick with this page, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries, and by that Russia will be in 2nd place by this time next week, but who can really say how accurate any figures are with the way that some countries are reporting cases, deaths and their amount of testing with tracking?

But as I've said before, if all things were equal then the previous linked page would look more like this page, https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/.
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Message 2048927 - Posted: 12 May 2020, 10:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 2048925.  

I think we have to be careful to distinguish 'statistical' statistics from 'political' statistics.

I was reminded of the old proverb "A lie can run halfway round the world before the truth can get its boots on".

Political statistics are quick, glib, partial, selective, ... - all sorts of naughty things like that.

Statistical statistics are slow, nuanced, complete (as far as possible in the time), and analytical.

For the UK, I much prefer the Deaths registered by week report, published by our Office of National Statistics. That chart, published this morning, has figures up to 1st May only.
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Message 2048935 - Posted: 12 May 2020, 12:37:27 UTC

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Message 2048957 - Posted: 12 May 2020, 18:30:15 UTC
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Today.
The US Genius tweeted this.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1260171664865796097
Our Testing is the BEST in the World, by FAR! Numbers are coming down in most parts of our Country, which wants to open and get going again. It is happening, safely!

"We estimate that our nation will be able to carry out at least 40 to 50 million tests per month this fall, if needed at that time," said Admiral Brett Giroir, at the HHS.
He added that 12.9 million tests will be conducted in the next four weeks, in addition to the 9 million tests already done in the country. It was reported to be twice as many tests as any other country has done.
(Hmm... Compared to what countries?)

Meanwhile the head of the NIAID, Anthony Fauci, said in a Senate hearing on Tuesday that the coronary-related deaths in the United States are likely to be more than the official death toll.
He said he was not sure how many percent higher the actual death rate could be. But in all likelihood, it's higher, he said.
He also urged caution to ease restrictions in the United States.
"If you think we have it under control, we don't have it," he replied to Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren during the hearing.

Fauci stated that there are currently nine possible "candidates" for covid-19 vaccine and research that began in January.
"If we are successful, you will know this in the fall or winter," Fauci said, adding that the authorities said it would take 12 to 18 months to produce a vaccine, shortly after the research began.
"I also have to warn that there are opportunities for negative consequences or that some vaccines may increase the negative effect of the infection," said Dr. Anthony Fauci.
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Message 2048976 - Posted: 12 May 2020, 22:45:34 UTC - in response to Message 2048855.  
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Posted yesterday
Very enlightening blog regarding infection risks and rates while re-opening society.....written by a Comparative Immunologist and Biology Professor..
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR2QBG4WmZXimtGqu_efRGP4gzLmHOET4zxH10C-pTiMwmWCZhrT0IgESs4

I fear it is written above the intelligence of the average Faux news presenter to grasp.
Confirmation came hours later:
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/497226-fox-newss-john-roberts-rips-abcs-jonathan-karl-on-mask-shaming-tweet
Fox News chief White House correspondent John Roberts slammed ABC News chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl on Twitter after Karl posted a picture of Roberts without a mask prior to the start of President Trump's press conference.

In a tweet Monday afternoon following Karl's knock on Roberts, the Fox News correspondent noted that he put on a mask once the press conference began.

"Facts - I was quietly seated more than 6' away from the closest person (adhering to CDC social distancing guidelines)," tweeted Roberts. "When the press conference began, I put mask on. So - what, exactly is the basis for this petty effort at shaming????"

If you read the report you see he had already filled the room with virus, but Faux news is always Faux.

<ed>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-west-wing-staffers-face-masks/
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Message 2048991 - Posted: 13 May 2020, 2:38:38 UTC

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Message 2048992 - Posted: 13 May 2020, 3:10:32 UTC
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Following up on a now old story but one that still has consequences from the misplaced (reckless?) hype:


Nationwide Study Finds Malaria Drug Touted by President Trump Led to More Deaths, No Benefits in Coronavirus Patients
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A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported...


Hydroxychloroquine Fails to Help Coronavirus Patients in Largest Study of the Drug to Date
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In a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, scientists led by a team at Columbia University found that people infected with COVID-19 taking hydroxychloroquine do not fare better than those not receiving the drug...

... “Our guidance early on had suggested giving hydroxychloroquine to hospitalized patients, and we updated that guidance to remove that suggestion,”...


What numbers will add up for the consequences of misplaced authority?...


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Message 2048994 - Posted: 13 May 2020, 4:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 2048992.  

Fixed it for you
What numbers will add up for the consequences of misplaced authority narcissistic vanity?
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Message 2049028 - Posted: 13 May 2020, 19:05:56 UTC

Who to believe?
"The ventilators are working to their limits. Preliminary indications are that it was overloaded and caught fire, and that was the cause," a source at St Petersburg emergencies department told the Interfax news agency.
Alexei Kurinny, a member of the Russian parliament's health committee, said it was unlikely that a ventilator could have short-circuited or overloaded, and that fire safety was built into their design.
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Message 2049029 - Posted: 13 May 2020, 19:08:26 UTC

Very unfortunately real and very unfortunate:


Victoria (railway station) ticket worker dies after being spat at
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A railway ticket office worker has died with coronavirus after being spat at by a man who claimed he had Covid-19.

Belly Mujinga, 47, ... when she was assaulted, along with a female colleague.

Within days of the incident, both women fell ill with the virus...




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