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Message 2051726 - Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 12:24:22 UTC

There are also problems for (relatively) nearby Burundi.

Nkurunziza death: Burundi court rules to end power vacuum

The BBC is being coy in print concerning whether the President's death can be attributed to covid-19:

Did he have coronavirus?
There have been numerous reports that Mr Nkurunziza died after contracting coronavirus but these have not been confirmed.

SOS Médias Burundi, which is made up of exiled journalists, quoted both a medical source and another close to the government as saying that the late president had Covid-19.

The government has not responded to the reports.
But I've heard one BBC broadcast report that they dispatched a helicopter to bring a ventilator to help treat the President, but it arrived too late to save him.

As the broadcast said, if there are so few ventilators available that even the President doesn't have access to one, what hope is there for the general population?
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Message 2051746 - Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 15:39:17 UTC
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Hopefully, we will indeed see some good come from the recovery from the Coronavirus pandemic:


Dalai Lama: Seven billion people 'need a sense of oneness'
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The leader of Tibetan Buddhism sees reasons for optimism even in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic. People are helping one another...



Why does it need some disaster to remind us all that we all are on and share the same one planet?

Here's hoping...


Stay safe!

All on our only one planet,
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Message 2051753 - Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 17:39:11 UTC - in response to Message 2051746.  


Why does it need some disaster to remind us all that we all are on and share the same one planet?
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Message 2051757 - Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 19:05:43 UTC

Some recent developments regarding prevention/cure outside of hospital....

Old polio vaccine could offer some protection from coronavirus, University of Maryland experts expect

Baltimore Sun |
Jun 13, 2020 | 10:45 AM

https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-hs-polio-vaccine-for-coronavirus-20200612-xjszq7fqjnejpb6vfhfavxnneq-story.html

Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) said on Wednesday that it will start human trials of its COVID-19 vaccine as early as in the second half of July. The Phase 1/2 human clinical trial of its investigational SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, also known as Ad26.COV2-S, was scheduled to begin in September.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/j-j-brings-human-trial-181130601.html

The first company to start human clinical trials of its coronavirus vaccine candidate in the United States — Moderna MRNA — has informed that it is on schedule to initiate the final-stage clinical trial by July. The last stage that will be arranged in partnership with the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) would involve 30,000 participants in the United States and use a 100-microgram dose of the vaccine.

The company also informed that the trial’s primary aim is to prevent the spread of coronavirus. The trial’s secondary goals will involve the prevention of severe cases of the disease that might result in hospitalization for management and prevention of infection by SARS-CoV-2 — the virus responsible for causing COVID-19. Buoyed by the news, Moderna’s stock rose 0.2% on Jun 11 when the S&P 500 lost 5.9% on rising worries over the resurgence of coronavirus infections in the United States.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/moderna-a-step-closer-to-coronavirus-vaccine%3A-etfs-to-gain-2020-06-13

Coronavirus vaccine: Human trials advance, Army selects top drug candidate

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-vaccine-human-trials-advance-army-selects-top-drug-candidate-n1230186

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Message 2051791 - Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 0:17:22 UTC

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Message 2051801 - Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 0:51:23 UTC

Many are now questioning Brazil's figures since Brazil's President pulled his Trump like stunt back on the 6th of June and independent reports from within the country are saying that the numbers of new cases should be at least 10,000 higher than what is being currently reported and daily deaths at least 1,000 higher considering new cases before the 6th were continually increasing past 30,000 new cases and 1,500 daily deaths, but the president continues playing the problem down with his, "it's just a bad flu", line. :-(

Estimates put their total cases at around 1 million and the death toll well over 50,000 now. :-O
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Message 2051986 - Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 21:11:47 UTC

Wuhan 2.0?

WHO Secretary-General Tedros Ghebreyesus announced during Monday's press conference that China's capital Beijing has 100 new confirmed cases in recent days. The new cases are being traced to Asia's largest food market.
"Beijing is facing an explosive and concentrated outbreak, despite the national epidemic being basically halted," China's chief epidemiologist Wu Zunyou told People's Daily magazine.

Beijing authorities say that the virus that caused the new outbreak is of a different type from the original outbreak and is likely to have the same gene strain as the virus that ravaged Europe in recent months. It is still unclear whether the virus type has spread to Beijing via travel or food transport. According to the Nationalist Chinese newspaper Global Times, traces of the virus should have been found on cutting boards used for imported salmon. The reports that imported food may have spread the infection have driven the thesis that the virus does not originate in China but should instead have been received by foreigners.
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Message 2052055 - Posted: 16 Jun 2020, 19:09:51 UTC

But Denmark, Austria, Norway, Finland, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand and most other countries that have reopened classrooms haven’t had outbreaks in schools or day-care centers…
This is a lie as we're finding a lot of new cases through testing at schools here in Australia, 2-3 schools are closed each week here for cleansing after finding new cases.

Is it a thinking person's guide?
I think not, it is more like the thoughts of a person who has no idea how to look at all the data presented, and has only absorbed the sound bite.
I agree.
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Message 2052063 - Posted: 16 Jun 2020, 21:17:56 UTC

Dexamethasone is first life-saving coronavirus drug
A cheap and widely available drug called dexamethasone can help save the lives of patients who are seriously ill with coronavirus.
UK experts say the low-dose steroid treatment is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus.
It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.
The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments to see if they also work for coronavirus.
Researchers estimate that if the drug had been available in the UK from the start of the coronavirus pandemic up to 5,000 lives could have been saved. Because it is cheap, it could also be of huge benefit in poor countries struggling with high numbers of Covid-19 patients.

Life-saver

About 19 out of 20 patients who get coronavirus get better without coming to hospital. Of those who are admitted to hospital, most also get better, but some may need oxygen or mechanical ventilation. These are the high risk patients that dexamethasone appears to help.
The drug is already used to reduce inflammation in a range of other conditions, and it appears that it helps stop some of the damage that can happen when the body's immune system goes into overdrive as it tries to fight off coronavirus.


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Message 2052124 - Posted: 17 Jun 2020, 7:25:36 UTC

There are currently early trials in progress in several countries including the France, USA & UK. It would appear that the drug companies & research organisations and not necessarily governments have co-ordinated among themselves to try different approaches thus avoiding unnecessary duplication of effort. Initial reports are indicating that some of these vaccines may be more effective than others, but it is still fat too early to actually say "this one work long-term".
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Message 2052125 - Posted: 17 Jun 2020, 7:39:13 UTC

China, or more particularly Beijing.
One of my Chinese colleagues, who lives in/near Beijing said just over a week ago that the authorities believer they had Covid-19 under control, and the feeling among the people was much the same. A couple of days he said it was a shock to everyone to find this very sudden outbreak in the city with, more or less over night, the count went from near zero to over a hundred - a step change, not a gradual ramping up. I think this indicates a single source person or object, who in that very crowded city acted as a "hyper spreader" rather than a number of spreaders. Knowing the way people move in that city I am not surprised that it is relatively localised in "only" 27 areas (I can't recall how many areas the city has, but it is certainly way more than that, probably around 250 to 300).
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Message 2052131 - Posted: 17 Jun 2020, 9:27:32 UTC

I've heard one BBC radio report, but not confirmed as yet, that many of the new cases around the world involve a second, mutated, variation of the SARS-cov 2 virus.

And that this new mutation may be more infectious than the first.

One website which has a write-up is https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/mutation-may-be-helping-coronavirus-spread-more-readily/
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Message 2052134 - Posted: 17 Jun 2020, 10:57:36 UTC - in response to Message 2052125.  

China, or more particularly Beijing.
One of my Chinese colleagues, who lives in/near Beijing said just over a week ago that the authorities believer they had Covid-19 under control, and the feeling among the people was much the same. A couple of days he said it was a shock to everyone to find this very sudden outbreak in the city with, more or less over night, the count went from near zero to over a hundred - a step change, not a gradual ramping up. I think this indicates a single source person or object, who in that very crowded city acted as a "hyper spreader" rather than a number of spreaders. Knowing the way people move in that city I am not surprised that it is relatively localised in "only" 27 areas (I can't recall how many areas the city has, but it is certainly way more than that, probably around 250 to 300).
Apparently the geno type of this latest outbreak in China is of the European strain and not the original local strain according to latest reports over the TV news here ATM.

Another than that claim the World has now passed 8.2 million cases and 446,000 deaths of which the U.S. makes up over 2.2 million cases and over 119.000 deaths of those. Brazil actually reported a number more inline with what is currently expected (but how many got left out?) as they pass 900,000 reported cases and over 45,000 reported deaths.

While Russia clocked up over 550,000 cases, Peru is set to take Italy's 7th place, Iran knocked Germany out of 9th spot and Chile is set to make that 10th spot short lived while Mexico and Pakistan are in a race to see who knocks France out of 13th place. Bangladesh is set to knock Canada out of 17th spot while becoming the 17th country to pass 100,000 reported cases.

Qatar is set to put China into 20th place while South Africa will be lining them next. Colombia has force Sweden back down to 25th place while Singapore and Indonesia become the 30th and 31st to clock up 40,000 cases.

Meanwhile South Korea is now down to 58th spot, Australia to 69th, N.Z. to 110th and Vietnam down to 156th by total cases.
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Message 2052135 - Posted: 17 Jun 2020, 11:00:23 UTC

Nearly a quarter of these incidents were fatal.
25% fatality rate puts the "Donald" on the spot.
FDA pulls emergency approval

Meanwhile on this side of the pond...
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Message 2052245 - Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 20:42:22 UTC

World wide cases have passed 8.5 million while deaths pass 450,000 of which the U.S. accounts for 2.25 million cases and over 120,000 deaths. :-O

The U.K. has become the 5th country to record over 300,000 cases, Pakistan and Mexico have dumped France back to 15th place, Canada became the 18th country to record 100,000 cases (but not before Bangladesh passed them) and South Africa knocked China out of 20th place.

Meanwhile Japan is now down to 51st spot, South Korea down to 58th, Australia is down to 70th (though south of the border in Victoria they still can't seem to keep things under control) and New Zealand is down to 113th.
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Message 2052255 - Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 21:30:23 UTC

If all things were equal this page would look more like this page.

Obviously if your country's cases ranking is above their population ranking then there's a sure sign that something isn't right (unless you're a 3rd world country where 1 would expect things to be worse naturally) and you would also think that 1st world countries should be doing a lot better than many others, but this certainly isn't the case being shown by some.

You can play with your numbers as much as you like, but that's the simple basic fact of this matter, whether you like it or not.
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Message 2052260 - Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 21:59:17 UTC
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All this comparing between countries is ridiculous. Try comparing regions instead and it all become VERY different.
For an example compare Copenhagen with a lockdown and Malmö with a "laxed" lockdown, two cities only separated with a bridge. Many more people die in Copenhagen then in Malmö. Why is that? In the US many more people die in New York and New Jersey then other states in the US. Why is that? In Stockholm there are many more people dying than in the county Västerbotten. Why is that?
All examples is of course death rates counted per capita.
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Message 2052266 - Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 22:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 2052262.  
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Yes. Here is a view of how the the corona is spread in Sweden.
Very big differences between regions.

And it's the same pattern in all countries, including the US.
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Message 2052269 - Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 23:03:36 UTC

Dang Right FAUCHMan - WEEEE dA WEEEEE PEOPLEs NO BELIEVE in A 'SCIENCE' Wholly Dependent on HUGE MONIEs
Comin' Your Ways FO Your 'SCIENCE' Backed by 'SCRUPULOUS' 'RESEARCH'.

As Far as 'AUTHORITY' Goes - All I Can Say is 'BLACKBoard JUNGLE' Baby!!!!! We LOVE Our 'TEACH'
'AUTHORITY' Give Me a BREAK. Is this GUY FO REAL????!!!!!! ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!!

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Message 2052272 - Posted: 19 Jun 2020, 0:24:01 UTC
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Let us take 2 countries that are both 1st world countries and both are a federation of states, now lets take 1 of the better states of 1.

Let's say West Virginia for example, population around 1,792,000 with 2,418 reported cases and 88 deaths.

Now for the current problem state here.

Victoria, population around 6.359 million with 1741 reported cases and just 19 deaths.

Now for my state, that suffered the Ruby Princess debacle (which has worse numbers than the Diamond Princess that is listed) and has our worst numbers here.

New South Wales, population around 7.544 million with 3134 reported cases and 48 deaths.

Now 1 country quietly goes along looking after its population while the other is relentlessly in the news for mostly all the wrong reasons and mainly for its disregard to life, why is there such a difference between the 2 countries when both have British Empire penal colony pasts?
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