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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19158 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
A shambles, & it could get worse I think he got the job because people recognised him, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObY4_HfhtyY |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I may have got it wrong mum.He sort of regret. On Wednesday, state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell announced to Ekot: "Should we encounter the same disease, with exactly what we know about it today, I think we would land in doing midway between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world did." Later in the day he modified the message somewhat: he did not aim to completely rethink the Swedish strategy.BTW. Sweden is still lockdowned but not as much as other countries. Strange that many countries now open up already while Sweden don't. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24884 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Well, at least he did not promote the use of a non approved drug or drink bleach. :-)A shambles, & it could get worse Meanwhile... In Brazil |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
The one good thing I think everyone will agree that has come of this scourge unleashed on mankind is the spur given Virology research. The US and the World have poured effort into finding the mechanisms, therapies and cures for virus based illness. This should have happened to a much larger degree 35 years ago when AIDS and HIV became known. There was just enough done to make the disease survivable but by no means cured. Had there been a more widespread vector for the disease that would not have been the case, there would have been the same effort that we now see applied to Covid-19. According to the best research there are thousands of strains of Corona type viruses that can make the mutational jump to humans from various 'lower' animals. Perhaps the silver lining in this black cloud will be a therapy or vaccine that will block the unique 'spike' feature that makes these RNA bits so easily able to infect cell tissue. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
The US and the World have poured effort into finding the mechanisms, therapies and cures for virus based illness. This should have happened to a much larger degree 35 years ago when AIDS and HIV became known. There was just enough done to make the disease survivable but by no means cured. Had there been a more widespread vector for the disease that would not have been the case, there would have been the same effort that we now see applied to Covid-19.Of course. A lot has been done. But there is a problem. Who want to pay for extra costs to be prepared for diseases that eventually can become a pandemic? For years most countries have downsized healthcare and preparedness. No stocks of drugs, vaccines and PPE but everything is now only produced "just in time". |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
It apparently doesn't matter if it a For Profit Medical Research County or a Non Profit Government Controlled Medical Research County.Actually Finland have stocks and is prepared for future crises. How much I don't know but Sweden has no stocks any longer when the Cold War ended. Not needed we are told... |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
No stocks of drugs, vaccines and PPE but everything is now only produced "just in time". .....and produced almost totally from one source...........curiously the same source as the disease we're now combating...........coincidence? That's the OTHER vital lesson we should be learning, it's about all the eggs being in the same basket. Any government(National, State, County or Local) that REALLY values it's citizens lives and health should never again allow vital materials be in the sole control of a foreign, and possibly, hostile entity. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Coincidence? Nah. The lowest bidder get the deal. That's how it works in every economy.No stocks of drugs, vaccines and PPE but everything is now only produced "just in time". However, putting all the eggs being in the same basket is not a good idea as you say. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 35200 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
While the world passes 7 million reported cases the U.S. has passed 2 million and Saudi Arabia becomes the 15th country to pass 100,000 cases and Pakistan will become the 16th tomorrow. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 35200 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
And now why are those countries so high up that ladder? Slow responses to the pandemic, leaders who downplayed the seriousness of it and didn't act until it was too late and/or substandard public healthcare systems or all 3? Remember also that none of those countries are 3rd world where 1 would expect numbers like those to come from so why are those countries so bad? And then you have Brazil's far right leader Jair Bolsonaro who, like Trump, keeps on downplaying the pandemic as "a little flu" while blaming others for his country's problems instead of having the balls to admit his own failures with dealing with it (or not dealing with it actually). |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19158 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Fatalities: Should those numbers be calculated without equalisation for differences in definition of what is and what isn't a coronavirus death, or that the numbers are, in any way shape or form, accurate from some countries? Do you believe the Russian (~4 per million) numbers? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Why do you link to statistics of per million deaths were not all countries are counted? San Marino is still in lead by far and Andorra is the third behind Belgium. Sweden is 7th and the US is 11th tied to Ireland just behind Sint Maarten. Oh. North Korea has not reported any Covid cases at all. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I just noticed that the Vatican City has reporter 14,981 cases per million. Scary.... No deaths though:) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 35200 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Across the ditch the news is good. New Zealand drops Covid-19 restrictions after nation declared 'virus-free'. New Zealand’s government will lift all Covid-19 restrictions except stringent border controls almost immediately, prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said, as the nation’s health officials declared that there were no longer any known, active cases of the coronavirus remaining. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Hopefully true: ....this from the same folks that said on January 14th: “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,†the WHO tweeted. https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/18/flashback-who-china-coronavirus-contagious/ ........can we really trust the vetting process of WHO? "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30758 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I figure this is a double edged sword. WHO China haters who want to tear off their masks won't have a clue. Do they vilify WHO and keep the mask or do they believe them and chuck the mask? Interesting times. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Looks like many countries don't think the pandemic is no more of a problem and therefore opening up their countries. Well, the second wave is soon to come... https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/sa-ser-det-ut-nar-varlden-oppnar-upp |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
I love the chart moomin,............. 'POSSIBLE'......waves to come............. Nobody knows anything,.............but EVERYBODY'S got a pretty chart.............. I'm sure those wishing for a world of Socialist/Communist absolute control of the peasants are rooting for more waves. Best way to destroy a Free Capitalist society is to prohibit Free Capitalism...........and disease is a great excuse. Now if we can only convince those pesky Yanks that you can catch Covid-19 from firearms............. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11366 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Yep, it is a well known fact in some circles that there is a red under every bed. |
Pierre A Renaud Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 998 Credit: 9,101,544 RAC: 65 |
BBC News - Coronavirus: Satellite traffic images may suggest virus hit Wuhan earlier https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52975934 Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020 |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I'm sure those wishing for a world of Socialist/Communist absolute control of the peasants are rooting for more waves.What? Who are they that want to destroy economies that all people are depending on and use diseases as an excuse? |
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