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Message 2041357 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 17:42:22 UTC - in response to Message 2041349.  
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Message 2041364 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 18:17:40 UTC
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Reading A Planet of Viruses by Carl Zimmer. (c) 2011

https://carlzimmer.com/books/a-planet-of-viruses

Book mentions: http://www.worldofviruses.unl.edu

BoodkSays Oceans have 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 viruses.

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Message 2041369 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 18:42:29 UTC - in response to Message 2041364.  

BoodkSays Oceans have 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 viruses.
That few? Your body has 100,000,000,000,000 not human inhabitants. So what's the ratio of one human body to the the volume of the oceans?
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Message 2041403 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 21:14:32 UTC

The urgency of the situation appears to have exposed cracks in collaboration between government departments. The BBC understands that in one instance the Department of Health was unaware that 10,000 ventilators had been ordered from Dyson, despite the order having been placed in a Cabinet Office-headed letter.
Some Whitehall sources say the invitation to participate languished in the in-tray of more junior Health Department officials until it was too late.
Ventilator doubts
Must follow SOP. Must NOT upset the boss with a telephone call.
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Message 2041407 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 21:32:34 UTC

There has been concern on both sides of the Irish border that healthcare workers do not have enough protective equipment to treat patients with Covid-19.
So wee leprechauns do something about it
While, across the water...
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Message 2041429 - Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 22:25:41 UTC - in response to Message 2041407.  

There has been concern on both sides of the Irish border that healthcare workers do not have enough protective equipment to treat patients with Covid-19.
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Good to know there are leprechauns helping out . Just as tomtar do in Scandinavia.
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Message 2041465 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 0:09:03 UTC

Coronavirus: Mercedes F1 to make breathing aid
A breathing aid that can help keep coronavirus patients out of intensive care has been created in under a week.

University College London engineers worked with clinicians at UCLH and Mercedes Formula One to build the device, which delivers oxygen to the lungs without needing a ventilator.

Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP) devices are already used in hospitals but are in short supply.

China and Italy used them to help Covid-19 patients.

Forty of the new devices have been delivered to ULCH and to three other London hospitals. If trials go well, up to 1,000 of the CPAP machines can be produced per day by Mercedes-AMG-HPP, beginning in a week's time.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has already given its approval for their use.
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Message 2041476 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 0:48:30 UTC

You gotta love stats.
26/3
523,163 confirmed cases
23,639 deaths
So the mortality rate decreasing from 4.55% to 4.5185%

29/3
710,000 confirmed cases
33,500 dead
Mortality rate increasing from 4.5185 to 4.7184%
So no signs of stabilising or slowing down. :-(
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Message 2041491 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 1:22:52 UTC - in response to Message 2041486.  
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You gotta love stats.
26/3
523,163 confirmed cases
23,639 deaths
So the mortality rate decreasing from 4.55% to 4.5185%

29/3
710,000 confirmed cases
33,500 dead
Mortality rate increasing from 4.5185 to 4.7184%
So no signs of stabilising or slowing down. :-(

Correct. The death rate for those known to be infected increased 0.2%

The total number of deaths and the death rate for those known to be infected are both important to know.

Question: Why are the death rate's for Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, France, the UK and Belgium so much higher than Germany?

Testing rates.

edit] and specifically for Germany, early reaction isolated the old people better and therefore less of them got infected and their death rate for the over 80's is only 3%, Whereas in Italy and Spain it is over 20%.
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Message 2041515 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 4:25:25 UTC

Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP) devices are already used in hospitals but are in short supply.
CPAPs are used extensively in the US for the treatment of Sleep Apnea, a condition where the patient stops breathing during sleep usually in those who snore. There are millions of Americans with these devices or BiPAPs and use them nightly(myself included).

The BiPAP would be the better technology as it provides an increased pressure in the lungs for inspiration and a different pressure for expiration (hence Bi-PAP).

I asked my pulmonologist at my last exam about their use in ICUs for the WuHu Flu patients. He explained at that time they would be some help but not on a par with full fledged ventilators as they aid, assist and stimulate the bodies natural instinct to breathe but are not capable of completely taking over the breathing function (which is needed in severe cases of Pneumonia).

These are common devices available through various Homecare Health Services.

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Message 2041526 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 5:03:57 UTC
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A few facts about Covid-19

Australia was the first to reproduce the virus outside of China
Australia was the first to map the immune response of the people that have recovered
Because of the data they found after mapping the immune response Australia is starting a trial of a old vaccine
that should give people who contract the Covid-19 virus a better chanceof servival . 4000 health workers will be given the Tuberculosis
vaccine . Witch is approx. 100 years old and is still being used in country's that have T.B
The hope is that it will trigger the correct immune response in the lungs of Covid - 19 patients and stop them needing respirators
and there bye making it less dangerous .
It is also hoped it will give the health workers better immunity
Calling Covid - 19 Wuhan flu or Chinese flu is not productive and is Rascist . Swine flu is not called American flu and I'm shore many American mite just get a little upset if it was . I refer to the 1976 outbreak in America . Covid - 19 looks like it may have come from bats so if your going to call it anthing other than Covid - 19 then call it BAT flu
Contry's that do not go into lockdown will suffer the most . You can end up with a 10% death rate . The worst thing about this is if your health system becomes overwhelmed then it will be innocent people whom do not have Cpvid - 19 that will die . Car accidents , cancer , heat attacks , cystic fibrosis and many other types of illness .
Australia has gone into lockdown , we have 4000 infections and 84% can be traced to people coming back from the U.S.A , or people that have come here from the U.S.A or on cruise ships where U.S citizens have a positive test.
All people now coming into Australia will be put in mandatory Qaranteen paid by the Australia Gov in 5 star hotels
We now have 17 deaths . We are testing at a rate simular to Singapore

I put it to those that say there governments should not be locking down it's people for what every stupid argument you wish to use then you are part of the problem and a idiot.
I say the these people if this was Ebola you would not hesitate to lockdown your country . If this was in your Agriculture industry you would also lockdown the farm the nabours farm and possibly the whole state and ban any imports from the country that is suspected to have brought the illness into the country.
So why are you not doing what you would do if it threatened your Agriculture industry or the death rate was like Ebola 70% .
If you don't lockdown then you deserve the possible millions of death . Remember Italy has 97,000 infection and 10,000 deaths that is 10%
You also do not need to use freaking hand sanitiser to wash your hands soap is just as effective and is infact more effective than the hand sanitisers that use Alcohol

Good luck your going to need it
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Message 2041529 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 5:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 2041526.  

Look, 3/4's of us didn't vote for that dip$h7t. We don't want him. The 1/4 that did wanted chaos. They got exactly what they wanted. Guns, death and destruction. Their self made prophecy of the end of the world. They even celebrate it. One has to wonder if Rump intentionally delayed his response for the right's stated reasons, so he could get support for xenophobia. No wonder he calls it the China virus. Spit on the ground every time his name is mentioned.

Hope your health trial works out. Hope it is a double blind study.

Speaking of vax, I don't know if anyone has tracked if either of the pneumonia vaccines PCV13 and PPSV23 provide any protection or less symptoms.
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Message 2041530 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 6:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 2041515.  

Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP) devices are already used in hospitals but are in short supply.
CPAPs are used extensively in the US for the treatment of Sleep Apnea, a condition where the patient stops breathing during sleep usually in those who snore. There are millions of Americans with these devices or BiPAPs and use them nightly(myself included).

The BiPAP would be the better technology as it provides an increased pressure in the lungs for inspiration and a different pressure for expiration (hence Bi-PAP).

I asked my pulmonologist at my last exam about their use in ICUs for the WuHu Flu patients. He explained at that time they would be some help but not on a par with full fledged ventilators as they aid, assist and stimulate the bodies natural instinct to breathe but are not capable of completely taking over the breathing function (which is needed in severe cases of Pneumonia).

These are common devices available through various Homecare Health Services.

They may not be everything but if they free up the ventilators so they can be used on the most serious case. Then they can only be a good thing.
Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP) devices have been used in China and Italy to deliver air and oxygen under pressure to patients’ lungs to help them breathe without the need for them to go on a ventilator, a more invasive process.
The new CPAP has already been approved by the relevant regulator and now 100 of the machines will be delivered to University College London Hospital for trials, before being rolled out to other hospitals.
Reports from Italy indicate that approximately 50% of patients given CPAP have avoided the need for invasive mechanical ventilation, which involves patients being sedated, freeing up ventilators for those more in need.
“These devices will help to save lives by ensuring that ventilators, a limited resource, are used only for the most severely ill,” UCLH critical care consultant Professor Mervyn Singer said in a statement on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-britain-breathing-aid/uk-hospitals-trial-new-version-of-a-breathing-aid-idUSL8N2BN0VK
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Message 2041535 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 7:22:41 UTC - in response to Message 2041529.  

Here is a article about what we are doing with the TB vaccine
https://www.smh.com.au/national/tuberculosis-vaccine-could-help-protect-health-workers-from-covid-19-20200326-p54e7h.html

maybe this will help you with your question about PCV13 and PPSV23 . I will assume our doctors think it's not going to work as it may not give the right immune response but what do I know I am not a doctor
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Message 2041565 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 10:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 2041526.  
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Calling Covid - 19 Wuhan flu or Chinese flu is not productive and is Rascist . Swine flu is not called American flu and I'm shore many American mite just get a little upset if it was . I refer to the 1976 outbreak in America . Covid - 19 looks like it may have come from bats so if your going to call it anthing other than Covid - 19 then call it BAT flu
The 1976 outbreak in America was not a flu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Philadelphia_Legionnaires%27_disease_outbreak
However the Swine Flu in 2009 was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic
And the origin of that disease is said came from the US.
As for what to call the pandemics. In China they call the COVID-19 the Wuhan flu. Saying that it's not racists.
Or are calling the Swine Flu the American Flu racists as well?
Calling the current pandemic the BAT flu sounds great. Doesn't hurt anybodies feelings:)

Oh. The name BAT flu is already taken... https://www.cdc.gov/flu/other/bat-flu.html
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Message 2041595 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 12:41:06 UTC

Who's to blame in a crisis like we have today?
Bats.
They who ate bats.
Chinese.
Italians.
The families from Bromma in the Alpes.
65+ people living as they always have lived.
Toilet paper stockpiling.
Girls that blow whistle pipes after-ski.


Trying to find on social media a scapegoat for the corona pandemic may be due to people trying to find explanations during times of crisis.
"We think it is uncomfortable to live in uncertainty, to find a story that is interconnected is nice for us at the moment," says psychologist Björn Hedensjö.
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Message 2041596 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 12:41:57 UTC

Calling Covid - 19 Wuhan flu or Chinese flu is not productive and is Rascist . Swine flu is not called American flu and I'm shore many American mite just get a little upset if it was . I refer to the 1976 outbreak in America . Covid - 19 looks like it may have come from bats so if your going to call it anthing other than Covid - 19 then call it BAT flu

My hybrid coined word for the illness WuHu Flu is both non-racist and geographically specific.

WUhan HUbei inFLUenza.........hence WuHu Flu.

AND it rolls off the tongue fluidly................

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Message 2041600 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 13:19:29 UTC - in response to Message 2041596.  

Calling Covid - 19 Wuhan flu or Chinese flu is not productive and is Rascist . Swine flu is not called American flu and I'm shore many American mite just get a little upset if it was . I refer to the 1976 outbreak in America . Covid - 19 looks like it may have come from bats so if your going to call it anthing other than Covid - 19 then call it BAT flu

My hybrid coined word for the illness WuHu Flu is both non-racist and geographically specific.
WUhan HUbei inFLUenza.........hence WuHu Flu.
AND it rolls off the tongue fluidly................
No matter what we will call it. Someone will always get offended. Maybe we should call it the "30°35′14″N 114°17′17″E Virus". Eh. perhaps not so like to roll off the tongue fluidly.
WuHu flu... Nah:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-4P6Uds7PI
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Message 2041612 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 14:29:14 UTC - in response to Message 2041600.  

If we are going for 'country of origin' naming, perhaps we should rename the 1918 epidemic as "American flu"?

There's a very convincing Smithsonian Institution TV channel documentary in the 'America's Hidden History' strand, pointing to the American Midwest as the initial origin, with the vector being the recruitment of young men into the forces towards the end of the First World War, and housed in large numbers in barracks at basic training camp.
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Message 2041615 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 14:51:44 UTC - in response to Message 2041612.  
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If we are going for 'country of origin' naming, perhaps we should rename the 1918 epidemic as "American flu"?
There's a very convincing Smithsonian Institution TV channel documentary in the 'America's Hidden History' strand, pointing to the American Midwest as the initial origin, with the vector being the recruitment of young men into the forces towards the end of the First World War, and housed in large numbers in barracks at basic training camp.
Actually that's only one of the three theories of the origin of the 1918 pandemic. US soldiers that came to Europe. Chinese workers that came to Europe. British soldiers in France... No one doesn't really know. That US soldiers brought the virus to Europe is apparently the most accepted version though.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/1/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-health/
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