As already stated, it is all down to when the virus runs its course.

Yes, we simply don't know yet. But as one said "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.".

I'm surprised there hasn't been a run on these yet.

Anyway. The COVID-19 is not the end of the world if you look back in human history.
The Swine Flu 10 years ago was by far more deadly with 200K deaths. And the Spanish Flu 100 years ago killed 40-50M.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/a-visual-history-of-pandemics?fbclid=IwAR0g6TUDpk0XG-DU_xPAqrutc8VFB3C859kF5aJQ-W8_7irmPKghwZy-_3U

Just wondering, planes not flying, transport reduced, some shipping reduced, this may have a greater impact on reducing global warming than most other efforts so far:-)

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Kevin

It seems you missed this: worldwide.

The Netherlands say we have 2051 confirmed cases, 58 dead. But here's the crux, not everyone can be tested because there's just not enough capacity to do all those tests. Which means that the amount of people already infected is way higher.

Most will have a mild reaction, runny nose, cough, fever, but nothing life threatening. When you have difficulty breathing, then it's life threatening and only then will you get tested here. And when you're then testing positive, you're one of the confirmed cases. Had you not gotten the trouble breathing, you wouldn't be a confirmed case... yet you still had corona.

I don't think all of the countries release their real numbers, just because they don't know what they are.

I'm surprised there hasn't been a run on these yet.

The run on them on this side of the pond started some months ago, well before the virus, however they seemed to ramp up production so at least you could get a few.

Continuing referring to a flu as the Spanish flu. Must be STOPPED!!! ;)

No good deed goes unpunished

Spain got the blame because they told the truth, the rest lied because they were at war.

Continuing referring to a flu as the Spanish flu. Must be STOPPED!!! ;)

No good deed goes unpunished
Spain got the blame because they told the truth, the rest lied because they were at war.

Not quite.
Why Was the 1918 Influenza Pandemic Called the ‘Spanish Flu’?
In World War I, neutral Spain was the first to report flu deaths in its newspapers, so commentators soon nicknamed the pandemic ‘Spanish flu.’
https://www.history.com/news/why-was-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-called-the-spanish-flu

For many years, medical historians and epidemiologists hypothesized that the outbreak could have started at a British army base in Étaples, France, or at Fort Riley in Kansas, where the first American cases of this new strain of flu were recorded in March of 1918.
More recently, experts have proposed a third hypothesis: The Spanish flu originated somewhere in northern China in late 1917 and swiftly moved to western Europe with the 140,000 Chinese laborers the French and British governments recruited to perform manual labor to free up troops for wartime duty.
Regardless of its origins, the Spanish Flu was an unprecedented global catastrophe.

As the number of cases in China drop over time, the country now prepares for a new problem, containing the virus from infected travelers coming back from the US and Europe.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-asia-boomerang/asia-prepares-for-coronavirus-boomerang-wave-as-residents-return-home-idUSKBN2141A8?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

As the world mobilizes to battle the virus, China, Hong Kong, Singapore and Taiwan have been relatively successful in curbing the spread so far.
But a surge in imported cases in recent days has raised alarm that those efforts could rapidly unravel.
“In many countries the number of confirmed cases can be described as explosive,” Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam told a press briefing on Tuesday.
“If we don’t adopt some strict measures...I’m afraid all precaution efforts done in the past two months would be wasted.”

When 10s of Millions every year had flu and 10s of Thousands Died every year from flu - Leftist Media and Leftist Pols and Leftist Voters - NEVER Ever cared 'bout TESTING. Totally Quiet. Every year went by Without a Word.

Got Sick - Meh ......Died......Meh......SHUT DOWN da World......Never a Thought About It.

Highly Contagious? One of First had 300+ contacts and Only one infected -her husband.

Explaination for this by 'expert' was definately Lacking.

Left Wing Mind says: We are gunna Get Trump this time. Left Wing Mind says: Gunna win Prez; House; Senate. Left Wing Media; Pols; Voters are Pushing Hard fO Every Advantage. Dats dA REAL SICKNESS going on.

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Thanks for showing us how far behind other countries the U.S. is Dull.

We're also trailing another old drug used for HIV along side that old malaria drug, both separate and in combination with each other.

Cheers.

Lookin' GOoD. Real GOoD
https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/18/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-covid19-cure-study
Yep

Hope that this, or something else, is found to be effective against COVID 19.

We will see.

Another possibility. Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China

Medical authorities in China have said a drug used in Japan to treat new strains of influenza appeared to be effective in coronavirus patients, Japanese media said on Wednesday.

Zhang Xinmin, an official at China’s science and technology ministry, said favipiravir, developed by a subsidiary of Fujifilm, had produced encouraging outcomes in clinical trials in Wuhan and Shenzhen involving 340 patients.

“It has a high degree of safety and is clearly effective in treatment,” Zhang told reporters on Tuesday.

Patients who were given the medicine in Shenzhen turned negative for the virus after a median of four days after becoming positive, compared with a median of 11 days for those who were not treated with the drug, public broadcaster NHK said.

In addition, X-rays confirmed improvements in lung condition in about 91% of the patients who were treated with favipiravir, compared to 62% or those without the drug.

Fujifilm Toyama Chemical, which developed the drug – also known as Avigan – in 2014, has declined to comment on the claims.

Reports say unemployment in the US rose by 281,000 people last week, up 33%. Chaos reigns, unemployment offices and phone lines are undermanned.

Just to help Dull keep safe, the news at March 18 at 10:33 p.m. is that West Virginia cases have doubled.

Now up to two cases in West Virginia.

Just to help Dull keep safe, the news at March 18 at 10:33 p.m. is that West Virginia cases have doubled.

Now up to two cases in West Virginia.

So far, 155 deaths and rising, out of a US population of 3531,000,000 + a little

While not minimizing the risk of COVID 19. Dull, as with most American's, will probably not die from COVID 19.

Edit: However, all should take reasonable precautions.

The question is how much do you believe those numbers.
The US is very short of working test kits, even though it could have got a million working UN kits earlier in the year.
Therefore how many people, mainly those over eighty, died after having flu like symptons, not been tested and therefore in the cause of death column it reads influenza.

Also worth noting the numbers rise exponentially, the number of new cases doubling ever 5 or 6 days, or about 17%/day.

breaking
WaPo - Younger adults are large percentage of coronavirus hospitalizations in United States, according to new CDC data

White House officials warn millennials they are not immune.

A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows that 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55.

Earlier this week, French health ministry official Jérome Salomon said half of the 300 to 400 coronavirus patients treated in intensive care units in Paris were younger than 65, and, according to numbers presented at a seminar of intensive care specialists, half the ICU patients in the Netherlands were younger than 50.

The number of persons infected by a new disease that perhaps 80% will have no or mild symptoms. And therefore not treated or known to the Medical Profession and Reporting Government Agency's. Is probably not accurate.

And that is the dangerous number, because those people will be or were carriers A report on the Washington Care Home has said that the virus was probably spread by the low paid staff, who either didn't feel ill or if they did it was minor enough that they worked through it because they couldn't afford to stop work because they, unlike the higher paid trained staff do not get sick pay.

edit] I've found a reference to that, https://www.foxnews.com/health/sick-low-paid-staff-fueled-coronavirus-pandemic-in-seattle-area-elderly-care-centers, it's not the one I first read.

edit] I've found a reference to that, https://www.foxnews.com/health/sick-low-paid-staff-fueled-coronavirus-pandemic-in-seattle-area-elderly-care-centers, it's not the one I first read.

From the article:

They also said nursing homes in the area are vulnerable because staff members worked with symptoms, worked in more than one facility, and sometimes didn’t know about or follow recommendations about protecting their eyes or being careful while in close contact with ill patients.

While it is probable, but not mentioned in the article, that they were not entitled to sick leave. And believing that all workers should be entitled to sick leave.

What about the large percentage of those infected with the COVID 19 virus who have no symptoms?

You mean, like the kids who go visiting Granny?

While it is probable, but not mentioned in the article, that they were not entitled to sick leave. And believing that all workers should be entitled to sick leave.

What about the large percentage of those infected with the COVID 19 virus who have no symptoms?

You mean, like the kids who go visiting Granny?

Within the UK most of the home parcel delivery drivers are self employed, no deliveries no pay no sick leave.

A lot of those that sort the parcels before delivery are agency workers, I do not know what their pay conditions are.

Cannot comment on supermarket home deliveries, not worked on that side of things.

So its not only the kids, Anyone that calls could be a risk.

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Kevin

Just to help Dull keep safe, the news at March 18 at 10:33 p.m. is that West Virginia cases have doubled.

As I Stood OLD and PROUD this morning, on a West Virginia Mountain Top Ridge facing towards da Rising Sun, rays blazing on my Smiling Face with my ONE TOOTH being SO WHITE*, reflecting Light across da Valley - I Thank GOD fO dA LOVE of my Fellow SETIZENs Throughout Vrold.

Yep

* ya see. Whens youse Gots only One Tooth, it's Very Easy to Keep Clean and Whitener LASTs FOeva.

p.s. With Therapeutics WEEE dA WEEEEE Peoples will be ROCKin' and ROLLin' VERY SOON, like a mO fO

Thank You SUPERTrump and Great Scientists Throughout US and Vrold

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

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