I will also take a look at pushing this ram. The XMP profiles changes when I changed MB's. I did have a profile at 3000 now it has two and the faster one is just below 3000.

There really is no "true" 3000Mhz XMP setting. That is simply rounded up from the actual 2933Mhz which is what the actual math and the clock multipliers produce.
That puts your Infinity Fabric speed at just under 1500Mhz for the cpu. The next step up would be a memory overclock to 3200Mhz via a multiplier or go the OC via BCLK route if your motherboard has a external BLCK generator.

That would bump your IF clocks to 1600Mhz.

Lovely. Bios rounding error.

Well Seti started quitting so I reset "everything" to default. Then added the XMP#2 profile, set the iGPU to 1600 with 1.21volts, turned off the "cool n' quiet" and the C states.

I think I am going to have to break down and find some "high performance" ram if I really want the cpu processing to pickup.

Tom

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Ryzen "loves" good quality RAM like Samsung B-dies or Micron E-dies. Going to cost though.

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Ryzen "loves" good quality RAM like Samsung B-dies or Micron E-dies. Going to cost though.

A preliminary test might be inorder. I have one pair of ddr4-3200 (I think it was living in the 2990wx for a while) installed in my current top performer. Since the 90% of the "top performer" has nothing to do with how fast the cpu is, I could throttle the cpu back a bit and probably not notice the loss of production.

Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

Ryzen "loves" good quality RAM like Samsung B-dies or Micron E-dies. Going to cost though.

A preliminary test might be inorder. I have one pair of ddr4-3200 (I think it was living in the 2990wx for a while) installed in my current top performer. Since the 90% of the "top performer" has nothing to do with how fast the cpu is, I could throttle the cpu back a bit and probably not notice the loss of production.

Tom

Actually hiding under a pile was the other pair of ddr4-3200.

I installed it on the 2400G/MSI B350 Tomahawk MB. With the XMP 3200 enabled. And the task manager promptly started showing that the CPU was running at near its top turbo speed (3.9Ghz) under "auto".

My other box is not complaining (Yet) so I will go forward. ASIS

Tom

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My other box is not complaining (Yet) so I will go forward. ASIS

Tom

However, my Windows box with the 2400G started crashing and re-starting after I changed the Ram.

I now have set everything to default except the Ram which is still set with the XMP setting for the 3200 speed.

If the issue goes away, I can then report that faster ram made the infinity fabric enough faster to screw everything else up ;)

Tom

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I'm very temperature-conscious when running SETI@home (or other CPU-intensive tasks), because one of my computers only has passive cooling and the other is a laptop. It relates to what you say about power-consumption, albeit in an indirect way. I don't physically underclock my computers, both because I don't know how to do it and because I like having more power for potential temporary uses.

I don't have available GPUs.

After a bit of experimentation, I've found that limiting CPU time works better to keep temperature moderate than limiting CPU percentage. Here are my current settings:

• On the passive cooling computer, I run on 100% CPUs for 70% of the time.
  
• On the very annoying laptop, I run only 2 tasks at once on 4 cores ("project_max_concurrent" project-specific setting), with 100% CPU for 48% of the time. If you wonder about the weird amount, it's the experimental maximum I've found that doesn't send the fans into overdrive from time to time.
  

BOINC's behaviour is strange with computing time limitations. With some values, the load averaged over a few seconds is basically stable, but with only 1% difference in the configured value, I get huge oscillations with a period 5 minutes or so.

With no GPU, somewhat slow computers, slowed down further and turned off at night or for the week-end for the laptop, I don't expect to win any prize. :-D I'm merely in for the contribution to a fascinating project.

Greetings Laura,

I'm a bit confused here. You have been a member for 20 years; joined the same day as I did, May 23, 1999. You only have 2 computers listed with very low credits and RAC which were attached over the last 2 days. I'm confused... :|

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Mystery solved. You quit SETI when they decided to go with "BING" (BOINC) and just started up again a few days ago. I see. :) BTW, the captcha is not that hard to use in forming a profile. ;)
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BOINC's behaviour is strange with computing time limitations. With some values, the load averaged over a few seconds is basically stable, but with only 1% difference in the configured value, I get huge oscillations with a period 5 minutes or so.

With no GPU, somewhat slow computers, slowed down further and turned off at night or for the week-end for the laptop, I don't expect to win any prize. :-D I'm merely in for the contribution to a fascinating project.

My understanding is you will get that kind of "intermittent" processing behavior when you the cpu % time used.
We can probably confirm if it is even possible to change your cpu behavior in the bios by telling us the Brand/Model of your motherboards and/or Laptop.

If your non-desktop has a "passive" cooler, it should be pretty cheap and easy to add an active cooler.
There are "cooling" tables that you can sit under your laptop on so that it neither gets "real hot" nor "real noisy" :)
I have found these cooling tables at both Walmart and Office Depot. They are also available online.

Welcome back to our mutually Fascinating project!

Tom

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Mystery solved. You quit SETI when they decided to go with "BING" (BOINC) and just started up again a few days ago. I see. :)

Haha, yeah, I stopped when classic SETI@home was retired in favour of BOINC (oops, typo corrected) and I've just picked up again. I never had powerful computers, mind you, even back in the day. I even ran SETI@home on a 486 at some point. :-D

BTW, the captcha is not that hard to use in forming a profile. ;)

Honestly, I've already wasted way too much time of my life having to go through rounds and rounds of this specific captcha on other sites, now I don't even try anymore. It very efficiently filters out humans: Machines don't mind wasting their time, humans do!

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My understanding is you will get that kind of "intermittent" processing behavior when you the cpu % time used.

Indeed, tasks repeatedly switch between EXECUTING and SUSPENDED, but it happens very quickly. With some values of "cpu_usage_limit", it results in a smooth load average over a minute, but with most, it isn't the case.

We can probably confirm if it is even possible to change your cpu behavior in the bios by telling us the Brand/Model of your motherboards and/or Laptop.

I'd rather not underclock the laptop, as it is my work computer and I need the power to run automated test suites. It's only the long-term usage I want to keep down.

If your non-desktop has a "passive" cooler, it should be pretty cheap and easy to add an active cooler.
There are "cooling" tables that you can sit under your laptop on so that it neither gets "real hot" nor "real noisy" :)
I have found these cooling tables at both Walmart and Office Depot. They are also available online.

That one is a fanless mini-PC. It looks like a rugged 20x15cm, 3cm high box. :-) I don't remember the exact brand, it was lent by the company I work for. A cooling table underneath it is a good idea indeed, I should have a look.

Welcome back to our mutually Fascinating project!

Thank you!

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My other box is not complaining (Yet) so I will go forward. ASIS

Tom

However, my Windows box with the 2400G started crashing and re-starting after I changed the Ram.
I now have set everything to default except the Ram which is still set with the XMP setting for the 3200 speed.
If the issue goes away, I can then report that faster ram made the infinity fabric enough faster to screw everything else up ;)
Tom

Well I think it may have been something Keith told me about way back when I was trying to get my Threadripper stable. Sometimes you have to turn off the Computer Boost so that Boinc is stable. So it has now run a 3.6Ghz, 3.7Ghz and today I am starting a run at 3.8Ghz. It apparently will turbo to 3.9Ghz.

So far while the ddr4-3200 appears to have sustained my iGPU speeds/speedup that cpu tasks still don't seem to be coming down in processing time on the average. Still a number are running 2 1/2 hours.

If the iGPU doesn't slow down I will be raising the cpu to 3.9Ghz next.

Tom

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I wonder when they will release/ship the Ryzen 5 2400G upgrade. This would make the cpu significantly more efficient. Might even improve the iGPU.

Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

My other box is not complaining (Yet) so I will go forward. ASIS

Tom

However, my Windows box with the 2400G started crashing and re-starting after I changed the Ram.
I now have set everything to default except the Ram which is still set with the XMP setting for the 3200 speed.
If the issue goes away, I can then report that faster ram made the infinity fabric enough faster to screw everything else up ;)
Tom

Well I think it may have been something Keith told me about way back when I was trying to get my Threadripper stable. Sometimes you have to turn off the Computer Boost so that Boinc is stable. So it has now run a 3.6Ghz, 3.7Ghz and today I am starting a run at 3.8Ghz. It apparently will turbo to 3.9Ghz.

So far while the ddr4-3200 appears to have sustained my iGPU speeds/speedup that cpu tasks still don't seem to be coming down in processing time on the average. Still a number are running 2 1/2 hours.

If the iGPU doesn't slow down I will be raising the cpu to 3.9Ghz next.

Tom

I have just looked and the "average" for the cpu has dropped to 2 hours with another group of them showing lower than that.
With the core boost off I have just set the cpu multiplier to 39. I also have a "game boost" toggle that I will try later.
I tried pushing the speed of the ddr4.3200 ram up into the 3400 range but hit some odd hickup so I didn't stay there. Regressed to the highest XMP profile.
The iGPU seems to still be running at about what it has been running.

Tom

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Informally, I'm curious how everyone here crunches for S@H/BOINC. In particular:

1. What % of CPUs do you run, and what % of CPU time do they run (i.e., the first settings in computing preferences).
2. Do you overclock your CPU, underclock it, or keep it at standard/boost speed?
3. Do you overclock your RAM?
4. Since we're talking over/underclocking, I might as well ask if you do the same for your GPUs, although to be honest I'm not as curious about that at the moment.

I have a few computers running, and some tablets. Currently they are all set to run 24/7 at 100% But the laptop is on default settings so bonic doesnt run when its on battery. Currently everything is 100% factory settings/standard. Truly not sure where to begin when it comes to OCing.

Informally, I'm curious how everyone here crunches for S@H/BOINC. In particular:

1. What % of CPUs do you run, and what % of CPU time do they run (i.e., the first settings in computing preferences).
2. Do you overclock your CPU, underclock it, or keep it at standard/boost speed?
3. Do you overclock your RAM?
4. Since we're talking over/underclocking, I might as well ask if you do the same for your GPUs, although to be honest I'm not as curious about that at the moment.

I have a few computers running, and some tablets. Currently they are all set to run 24/7 at 100% But the laptop is on default settings so bonic doesnt run when its on battery. Currently everything is 100% factory settings/standard. Truly not sure where to begin when it comes to OCing.

Welcome, and thanks for the response! It looks like you're off to a good start with the computers you have running and amount of tasks they are able to crunch!

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Informally, I'm curious how everyone here crunches for S@H/BOINC. In particular:

1. What % of CPUs do you run, and what % of CPU time do they run (i.e., the first settings in computing preferences).
2. Do you overclock your CPU, underclock it, or keep it at standard/boost speed?
3. Do you overclock your RAM?
4. Since we're talking over/underclocking, I might as well ask if you do the same for your GPUs, although to be honest I'm not as curious about that at the moment.

I have a few computers running, and some tablets. Currently they are all set to run 24/7 at 100% But the laptop is on default settings so bonic doesnt run when its on battery. Currently everything is 100% factory settings/standard. Truly not sure where to begin when it comes to OCing.

Mostly you should set your % of cpu cores to 90%. This usually will speed up things because when the computer wants to do "housekeeping" or anything else it has a couple of threads/cores available without causing a "task switch" with BOINC.

If you are running Windows there are commandline's as well as app_config.xml that you can use that will probably speed you up.
Do NOT run Intel gpu tasks.

Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

Informally, I'm curious how everyone here crunches for S@H/BOINC. In particular:

1. What % of CPUs do you run, and what % of CPU time do they run (i.e., the first settings in computing preferences).
2. Do you overclock your CPU, underclock it, or keep it at standard/boost speed?
3. Do you overclock your RAM?
4. Since we're talking over/underclocking, I might as well ask if you do the same for your GPUs, although to be honest I'm not as curious about that at the moment.

I have a few computers running, and some tablets. Currently they are all set to run 24/7 at 100% But the laptop is on default settings so bonic doesnt run when its on battery. Currently everything is 100% factory settings/standard. Truly not sure where to begin when it comes to OCing.

Welcome, and thanks for the response! It looks like you're off to a good start with the computers you have running and amount of tasks they are able to crunch!

Thanks I am trying! ;) But, I want to help some more, besides upgrading everything...is there any advice? Should I sli GPUs in each PC, upgrade the ram sorta thing?

I assume OCing helps..depending on how far you can take it. Might start with the two lower end PCs before I do my main.

Thanks I am trying! ;) But, I want to help some more, besides upgrading everything...is there any advice? Should I sli GPUs in each PC, upgrade the ram sorta thing?

I assume OCing helps..depending on how far you can take it. Might start with the two lower end PCs before I do my main.

Unless you plan on playing games then SLi is pointless and your rigs have enough RAM, but if you do want to overclock then make sure that you have good cooling and airflow (stock cooling and cases isn't good enough for doing that).

Cheers.

I assume OCing helps..depending on how far you can take it.

5% boost in performance, for a 15% increase in power usage.
I'm happy running things as stock.

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Grant
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What Wiggo and Grant said. To be clear, Seti (and Boinc in general, as far as I know) do not use SLI at all. Each GPU task can only be crunched by one GPU.

Besides upgrading or purchasing more hardware, there are a few things. There are command line options you can enter to better optimize GPU tasks. There are also anonymous applications (i.e., Lunatics) you can run that process tasks faster. However, I know barely enough about both to know I don't know anything about them. If you browse through the boards you'll find topics about them if you want to be adventurous.

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