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Message 1983561 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 7:35:32 UTC

The downloads managed to clear themselves, although there's now no work in the Ready-to-send buffer, and regardless of what the Server status page might show, the spitters aren't actually producing any work at this stage.
So there's no work available at present.
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Message 1983562 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 8:27:01 UTC

The Transitioner Vader isn't running

Results ready to send 0 0 0 0m
Current result creation rate ** 0/sec 0/sec 0/sec 6m

This will likely take a couple of days to sort out. OK that is fine with me. If Seti can't or won't send me any work I'll simply go and crunch for my backup Boinc projects which are scientifically just as worthy.

Eric knows what is wrong, flaky Mysql and Informix databases bloated with 20 years of data, and servers at least 4 years old, out of their depth trying to cope with it all. No money and no staff. In the last 24 hours alone the project has lost another 100 active users.

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Message 1983585 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 10:08:43 UTC - in response to Message 1983562.  


Eric knows what is wrong, flaky Mysql and Informix databases bloated with 20 years of data, and servers at least 4 years old, out of their depth trying to cope with it all. No money and no staff. In the last 24 hours alone the project has lost another 100 active users.


It is a pity that so few users throw something into the donation fund. Very much invest in expensive GPU's. A few dollars donations would help the project a lot.
The project with the largest Cult status should be worth a few dollars, I think.
Then it works with the technology!
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Message 1983589 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 10:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 1983585.  
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It is a pity that so few users throw something into the donation fund. Very much invest in expensive GPU's. A few dollars donations would help the project a lot.

Hi Schmeily,

Yes I agree. I have done what I can to help over time. It does seem somewhat incongruous that some users spend serious money on 2000 series graphics cards, yet cant put their hands in their pockets to help the project out. Just $10 will get you a green star, Then of course we have the social oddballs that choose to hide donations.
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Message 1983591 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 10:46:38 UTC - in response to Message 1983589.  

Let's not get into name-calling again, but I agree with the basic principle:

If you want to crunch for SETI (for whatever reason) seriously enough to put your own money into a computer build, please consider donating a small percentage of your budget to the work supply chain. Without the servers and the staff who manage them, your hardware investment will be useless.
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Message 1983592 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 10:47:20 UTC - in response to Message 1983589.  

Then of course we have the social oddballs that choose to hide donations.
Just as odd as those who hide their computers. Mind you, I can understand why in some circumstances. Would have shown some up discrepancies like running an armful of 750ti's 3 years before they were released.
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Message 1983593 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 10:52:00 UTC
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of course we have the social oddballs that choose to hide donations.

Social oddball?

I hide my donations because I don't judge people on whether they donate or not, you might also find it "odd" I have my add blocker hide all donation status on every single poster here.

That way I treat everyone the same as I never see green stars or any animated donation gif.

In my eyes everyone is equal.

Also it shows that lack of a green star has no bearing as to whether some had donated.
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Message 1983594 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 10:53:04 UTC

but I agree with the basic principle:

If you want to crunch for SETI (for whatever reason) seriously enough to put your own money into a computer build, please consider donating a small percentage of your budget to the work supply chain. Without the servers and the staff who manage them, your hardware investment will be useless.

Well said Richard +1
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Message 1983595 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 10:58:17 UTC

And some O.S. peoples' debit cards don't work outside of their own countries so they can't do so either.

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Message 1983597 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 11:08:58 UTC - in response to Message 1983593.  


I hide my donations because I don't judge people on whether they donate or not, you might also find it "odd" I have my add blocker hide all donation status on every single poster here.


You're right.
I'm not talking about green stars. Please have a look at the donation history. That could and should be better.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/donation_history.php
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Message 1983601 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 11:30:10 UTC - in response to Message 1983595.  

And some O.S. peoples' debit cards don't work outside of their own countries so they can't do so either.

Cheers.
When we did the special fundraiser about 15 months ago, I found

Berkeley: Giving From Abroad

That's not total global coverage (no mention of Australia or New Zealand), but it does show that other channels are available. Eric also dug out the old wire transfer details, and we confirmed that they still worked - though that's more appropriate for larger sums, and not as convenient as credit/debit cards.
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Message 1983629 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 13:04:54 UTC

I hope they get the problems under control.
3 days ago i installed unix and banished windows.
And now I'm waiting for work. right now the system is down. very annoying! :-(
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Message 1983630 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 13:15:33 UTC - in response to Message 1983589.  
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Chris, thank you for the reminder. I have written to Dr. K. several times over the years inquiring as to whether there is anything that the project needs to overcome these difficulties in the way of hardware etc. that we could hold a fundraiser for. I have had positive responses for expansions (ie Green Bank and Parkes) but not for anything for day-to-day operations, which may be mundane but are certainly required. So I've just sent off another one. In each of these I have expressed that he can ask anytime.

Thus, actually, "the ball in their court"...
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Message 1983642 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 14:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 1983630.  

Is anyone getting anything?

I keep getting the "no tasks available" response. And my client has been hitting them every 5 minutes or so for a while.

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Message 1983643 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 14:05:34 UTC - in response to Message 1983601.  
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And some O.S. peoples' debit cards don't work outside of their own countries so they can't do so either.

Cheers.
When we did the special fundraiser about 15 months ago, I found

Berkeley: Giving From Abroad

That's not total global coverage (no mention of Australia or New Zealand), but it does show that other channels are available. Eric also dug out the old wire transfer details, and we confirmed that they still worked - though that's more appropriate for larger sums, and not as convenient as credit/debit cards.


Would the paypal work around work for those countries the cards won't work outside of?

PayPal users: We vastly prefer the other donation methods listed above (due to lower overhead and ease of management), but if you can't contribute to us otherwise, you can now use PayPal. Thanks to the helpful support of the GPU Users Group, they are collecting donations via PayPal for SETI@home, which (after the standard PayPal overhead) is redirected entirely to us for general use or to then purchase specific pieces of hardware. The GPU Users Group is a 501(c)(3) charitable organization, so donations made via this method are similarly tax-deductible. If you use this method, there may be a long delay (as much as a month) before you obtain your green star. For more information, or to make a donation through the GPU Users Group, click here.


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Message 1983644 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 14:10:34 UTC - in response to Message 1983642.  
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Is anyone getting anything?

I keep getting the "no tasks available" response. And my client has been hitting them every 5 minutes or so for a while.

Tom

Look in the Server Status Page

Results ready to send 0 0 0 0m
Current result creation rate ** 0/sec 0/sec 0/sec 5m

No work is been generating so we have nothing to DL.

All we can do is crunch what we have and hope they could restart the creation of new work ASAP.
I believe you already read the msg posted yesterday telling they have problem with a memory update and are working to fix that.
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Message 1983648 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 14:16:46 UTC - in response to Message 1983644.  

Is anyone getting anything?

I keep getting the "no tasks available" response. And my client has been hitting them every 5 minutes or so for a while.

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Look in the Server Status Page

Results ready to send 0 0 0 0m
Current result creation rate ** 0/sec 0/sec 0/sec 5m

No work is been generating so we have nothing to DL.

All we can do is crunch what we have and hope they could restart the creation of new work ASAP.
I believe you already read the msg in the main page posted yesterday telling they have problem with a memory update.
and working to fix that.


Yes. Apparently our servers are getting old enough they are suffering from "Alzheimers"? Sorry...... :) That was a "memory re-seat" mention....

Oh, well. At least we can complain here instead of there
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=8105&postid=90550#90550

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Message 1983653 - Posted: 6 Mar 2019, 14:37:17 UTC

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