Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (2)
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 Jord  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 
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My computers are MY computers.Yes, your computers are your computers. But Windows is theirs. Even if you bought a license, all you have is the license that's your, the Windows that license is for isn't yours. Windows is and will always be Microsoft's. That's also what their EULA states. License. The software is licensed, not sold. Under this agreement, we grant you the right to install and run one instance of the software on your device (the licensed device), for use by one person at a time, so long as you comply with all the terms of this agreement. |
Wiggo  Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34746 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 
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Another Win10 laptop turned up here on Thursday and after backing up it's files it left here yesterday running Linux Mint 19.1 (there can't be that many non-Win7 Windows PC's left around this trio of small highland country villages now). This was just another case of someone getting sick of periods of high internet usage (most around here are on small capped or pay as you go mobile network connections) and updates breaking wifi and sound drivers (and he was also probably getting sick of seeing me to fix things too). 1 big observation that I have made over the last 2yrs (since the end of Vista support) is that I havn't had to fix anything on all these conversions since they were done (except for replacing 2 CMOS batteries and seeing as winter is here again I expect to replace a few more soon) and some of these people could get themselves into some real trouble and messes with Windows on a regular basis. Cheers. |
Gary Charpentier     Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 
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This is MY COMPUTER! It will run the way I WANT IT TO!Apparently you still haven't read the EULA: no they don't "Microsoft and the device manufacturer and installer exclude all implied warranties and conditions, including those of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, and non-infringement." |
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 
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I am running a SuSE Tumbleweed Linux, a development version, as a Virtual Machine on a Windows 8.1 PC with 20 GB RAM. It is frequently updated and runs Einstein@home tasks. The SuSE BOINC manager did not work on Tumbleweed and I installed Einstein manually. The CPU is an A10-6700 with 4 cores, although the Window Task Manager says it has 2 cores and 4 logical processors. Tumbleweed is update frequently and has a 5.0.11 kernel. Tullio |
Siran d'Vel'nahr  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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My computers are MY computers.Yes, your computers are your computers. But Windows is theirs. Even if you bought a license, all you have is the license that's your, the Windows that license is for isn't yours. Windows is and will always be Microsoft's. That's also what their EULA states. Hi Jord, Jord, you're beating a dead horse. I know that commercial things like software which grant a license to USE the product is not owned by the user, even if they paid for the product. I have no problem with that at all. I don't know why you keep slamming me with that, my friend. The thing that has me in an uproar about Micro$oft and their "product", Winblows 10, is that we have the options to stop stuff and they have measures IN the software to change what we change. I just checked and Winblows Update was once again enabled. I, once again, disabled it. If Micro$oft does NOT want us to make those changes, we see fit to make, then why give the options to us in the first place? That's what ticks me off about them. It took me a while to get Micro$oft to stop installing video driver updates that break the heck out of doing SETI. I finally got that stopped. There has to be more to the updates service and "feature" that can be done to prevent the updates altogether. I just haven't figured it out yet. I shall do more research on it today. In the meantime I will continue to keep my eye on the update service and re-disable it when need be. Here's something to think about: If Micro$oft and their lawyers weren't smart enough to add the "no class action suits" to the EULA, imagine these problems no longer happening or not being as severe as they are because Micro$oft would then be held accountable for screwing around with peoples computers. These biyearly "feature updates" would have much less tendency to do what they do now. But because the "quality control" is virtually non-existent at Micro$oft they happen every time there is one. I will continue to be in non-compliance of their EULA so long as their crap keeps happening. ;) Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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-[ snip ]--[ snip ]- Hi Gary, I'm not quite sure what you are referring to, please elaborate. :) No they don't... what? Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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-[ snip ]--[ snip ]- I was referring to breaking stuff on it. They say they can (merchantability and fitness) and you agreed to them breaking stuff when you accepted the EULA. Perhaps you should have paid a lawyer to explain the document you signed to you before you signed it. (You will sign one when you install Linux, they also say they can break stuff.) |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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-[ snip ]--[ snip ]--[ snip ]- Hi Gary, Ok, you're joking, right? ;) I "signed" nothing for Winblowshard or Linux. You have to be joking... Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Greetings, I'm not much closer to disabling Updates for good, but I did find out one thing. When Winblows 10 is rebooted, it goes into services and resets Updates to enabled. One test to go. Find out what happens overnight. I had to reset it to disabled this morning and I remember have it set to disabled after the last required reboot yesterday. We shall see... Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Richard Haselgrove  Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 
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Ok, you're joking, right? ;) I "signed" nothing for Winblowshard or Linux. You have to be joking...Nowadays, 'signing' is usually clicking with your mouse on something saying "I agree" or "accept". |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Greetings, Windows 10: Microsoft is bringing back one of Windows 95’s most popular features Microsoft is revamping PowerToys utilities for Windows 10. Microsoft is rebooting and open sourcing PowerToys, the Windows 95 utilities that brought power users the popular Tweak UI, which allowed users to manipulate the Windows user interface, and over a dozen other tools. Enjoy and have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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+1Ok, you're joking, right? ;) I "signed" nothing for Winblowshard or Linux. You have to be joking...Nowadays, 'signing' is usually clicking with your mouse on something saying "I agree" or "accept". You couldn't get past the Microsoft Activation Center unless you did. Or are you complaining about pirated software? |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Who would believe it?... P-p-p-pick up a Pengwin: Windows Subsystem for Linux boffins talk version 2 It's all about the enterprise, dummy The Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) 2 was one of the bigger surprises of Microsoft's developer love-in, Build. The Register had a chat with the team behind Pengwin to find out what the changes mean for devs on the platform. Pengwin (formerly WLinux) is a Debian-based Linux optimised for the original incarnation of WSL. The latest update came in April and it's fair to say that the open-source outfit was as startled as the rest of us at Microsoft's subsequent sudden lurch Linuxwards. Where WSL 1 translated Linux system calls to the Windows kernel, WSL 2 dispenses with such shenanigans and simply includes a tuned 4.19 Linux kernel (open source, in the spirit of the new Microsoft)... ... WSL 2 is expected to show up for Windows Insiders on the Fast Ring by the end of June, and there are mutterings that a final version could ship as an option when the 19H2 update of Windows 10 emerges in the autumn. A very scary aspect to all that is: "... maintained through Windows Update..." Is this a long overdue "Embrace, extend, and extinguish"? IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Would you believe Microsoft has released a "Security Patch" for XP? Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238
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Would you believe Microsoft has released a "Security Patch" for XP? Hi Tom, I figured I would post a link to an article from yesterday about the patch. Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3
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The patch is for XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008. Vista isn't being mentioned. The vulnerability is not present in 8 and above. For XP and 2003 the patch has to be downloaded manually from the Microsoft website: https://support.microsoft.com/help/4500705. The others are updated via Windows Update. Of course if you're reasonable, RDP is something you disable completely. |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Oh no!! It's... Patch Tuesday!... Sophos tells users to roll back Microsoft's Patch Tuesday run if they want PC to boot Yes, the one with the critical security fixes... Anything else to stop all ongoing work?... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world, quite a biggie: South Korea Chooses Linux Over Windows 10 Support for Windows 7 will end in January 2020. Microsoft probably hopes the moribund operating system's users will switch to Windows 10, but the South Korean government plans to switch its machines over to a Linux distribution instead... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world, quite a biggie: Over the years, several large entities (governments etc) have announced they were switching from Windows desktop to Linux dekstop. And then they didn't. Turned out some crucial software could not be run under Linux, not even using Windows interfaces/simulators. I expect the SK decision will be back tracked within 6 months to a year. Installed user-base of applications can provide wonderful upgrade inertia. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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Oh, Sophos has a bug. ML wants to blame Doze. World will continue. |
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