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Message 2000261 - Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 10:59:48 UTC

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After days of wondering and worrying about what went wrong, everything is now working normally!

B.O.I.N.C. is working and S.E.T.I. is working.

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Message 2000280 - Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 14:10:11 UTC
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Message 2000282 - Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 14:38:37 UTC - in response to Message 2000280.  

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14596/toshiba-western-digital-nand-production-partially-halted-by-power-outage

That doesn't sound fun...

Excuse my skepticism, but wasn't this just a ploy to reduce the glut of Flash RAM that has flooded the market in the last six months so they could raise the prices because of artificial shortage? We've seen this story before in years past.
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Message 2000289 - Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 16:10:02 UTC

I'd say about 1 in 10 of such stories are not actually the result of a "real" power outage, but more a "power outage of convenience". Or am I just getting cynical in my old age?
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Message 2000299 - Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 17:41:20 UTC - in response to Message 2000289.  

I'd say about 1 in 10 of such stories are not actually the result of a "real" power outage, but more a "power outage of convenience". Or am I just getting cynical in my old age?

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Message 2000382 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 4:44:20 UTC

Hating CreditScrew more and more each day. You would have thought by now that the problem with it would already have been fixed. No such luck here. I guess we are forever stuck with it.
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Message 2000383 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 4:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 2000382.  

I try to never think of it . . . . . that way I can never be disappointed.
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Message 2000386 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 6:38:39 UTC

Anybody know what happens to the noisy data (noise bomb) data when it is pulled from the server because the server can't cope? I am wondering doesn't get discarded or does somebody else look at it
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Message 2000389 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 6:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 2000386.  

Anybody know what happens to the noisy data (noise bomb) data when it is pulled from the server because the server can't cope? I am wondering doesn't get discarded or does somebody else look at it

I'd expect they're just put aside for another day.
There are some WUs in there that do crunch, so once they get the servers sorted out so they can handle the load, they could release them here again.
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Message 2000397 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 9:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 2000389.  

Anybody know what happens to the noisy data (noise bomb) data when it is pulled from the server because the server can't cope? I am wondering doesn't get discarded or does somebody else look at it

I'd expect they're just put aside for another day.
There are some WUs in there that do crunch, so once they get the servers sorted out so they can handle the load, they could release them here again.

Thanks Grant I thought that was possibly the case. If they are complete noise bombs go and end within 3 seconds as there useful information within that time?
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Message 2000405 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 13:16:54 UTC

Noise bombs may contain useful data, but the current analysis tools don't let us get at it if it is there...
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Message 2000446 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 21:52:14 UTC - in response to Message 2000405.  

Noise bombs may contain useful data, but the current analysis tools don't let us get at it if it is there...

Thank you for the information. This is good to know
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Message 2000450 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 23:20:32 UTC

I figured I would just post here instead of making a new thread.

I have 3 new work units I’ve never seen before for my gpu.

Two cuda42 and one cuda50. What are these?

All of this has happened before and will happen again -Battlestar Galactica
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Message 2000451 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 23:25:18 UTC - in response to Message 2000450.  

Since you are running the normal platform decided by the schedulers, they have sent you some of the older applications. The scheduler is still trying to determine the best app for your host. The CUDA42 and CUDA50 applications are MUCH slower than the SoG application. You are just going to have to suffer through the CUDA42 and CUDA50 tasks until the APR's for those apps are established and the SoG app wins out in the end. The only way to circumvent this scenario is to run the anonymous platform where YOU get to decide which apps to run.
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Message 2000452 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 23:29:07 UTC - in response to Message 2000451.  

Since you are running the normal platform decided by the schedulers, they have sent you some of the older applications. The scheduler is still trying to determine the best app for your host. The CUDA42 and CUDA50 applications are MUCH slower than the SoG application. You are just going to have to suffer through the CUDA42 and CUDA50 tasks until the APR's for those apps are established and the SoG app wins out in the end. The only way to circumvent this scenario is to run the anonymous platform where YOU get to decide which apps to run.


Thanks Keith! I’ll let it crunch whatever they send me until it gets used to the new host haha. Someone’s gotta do it. LOL!

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Message 2000453 - Posted: 30 Jun 2019, 23:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 2000452.  

You will need 11 validated, non-overflowed CUDA42 and 50 tasks to develop the APR for those applications. So much is determined by the turnaround time for your wingmen.
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Message 2000488 - Posted: 1 Jul 2019, 6:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 2000386.  

Anybody know what happens to the noisy data (noise bomb) data when it is pulled from the server because the server can't cope? I am wondering doesn't get discarded or does somebody else look at it
I would imagine they will run them through at some point here. I server can handle them - just not all at once!

If they are split one at a time they will whistle their way right on through ... but takes some babysitting and the hard to find TIME.
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Message 2000493 - Posted: 1 Jul 2019, 8:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 2000488.  

Anybody know what happens to the noisy data (noise bomb) data when it is pulled from the server because the server can't cope? I am wondering doesn't get discarded or does somebody else look at it
I would imagine they will run them through at some point here. I server can handle them - just not all at once!

If they are split one at a time they will whistle their way right on through ... but takes some babysitting and the hard to find TIME.

I'm aware that the noise bombs create a lot of pressure for the server but eventually it clears itself and the creation rate is able to come back to a reasonable level would it not be more sensible to just let them all run the same time?
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Message 2000494 - Posted: 1 Jul 2019, 8:47:13 UTC - in response to Message 2000493.  

Anybody know what happens to the noisy data (noise bomb) data when it is pulled from the server because the server can't cope? I am wondering doesn't get discarded or does somebody else look at it
I would imagine they will run them through at some point here. I server can handle them - just not all at once!

If they are split one at a time they will whistle their way right on through ... but takes some babysitting and the hard to find TIME.
I'm aware that the noise bombs create a lot of pressure for the server but eventually it clears itself and the creation rate is able to come back to a reasonable level would it not be more sensible to just let them all run the same time?
We had a similar batch not long back that also got pulled, but they wound up letting a file or 2 process at a time a few days later until that batch was done. I imagine that they'll do the same thing again when they have the time to manually feed them back in.

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Message 2000495 - Posted: 1 Jul 2019, 8:48:17 UTC - in response to Message 2000493.  

would it not be more sensible to just let them all run the same time?

If the servers could handle it, yes.
But the last two server system crashes were as a result of the shorty storms that had been occurring at the time. The servers just can't cope with that sort of sustained load.
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