The biggest issue with those cards was that many were clocked to the ragged edge- they were OK for gaming but would produce nothing but errors when used for compute work.

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Mine certainly did. Still have it on the shelf. I wouldn't want to foist it on anybody I had respect for.

Haha, so use it as a paper weight? Can do!

The biggest issue with those cards was that many were clocked to the ragged edge- they were OK for gaming but would produce nothing but errors when used for compute work.

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Mine certainly did. Still have it on the shelf. I wouldn't want to foist it on anybody I had respect for.

Haha, so use it as a paper weight? Can do!

Still functional as a video card to drive a monitor. I would never use it for crunching again.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Thanks! Yes, I will keep it stored, just in-case if I need it to troubleshoot anything. But, I have another random question. It has been a while since I have built/troubleshoot any of my pcs so I need someones brain to pick.

My old i5 htpc just died out of the blue. Started with the first thing that the roommate thought it was and replaced the RAM, but still getting the same issue. Was looking at info, and the build is from 2012-2013 with the i5-3570k and lga 1155 socket. I know for a FACT I have had this issue before, most likely with the same computer, as I was able to see that I had two asrock 1155 mobos before the current asus mobo. (Issue: when pressing the power button, the cpu cooler will turn on, but a half second later it will drop and kick back on after another second of nothing. Computer does not boot after that, just blank. )

I can find microatx boards new for like $129 on Amazon (supports very low ram), or refurbs/open box on Amazon/Newegg/ebay from $118+. However, looking at AMD cpus, I could get a new 8-core AMD and a new AMD board....spend about $30 over what I would for the lga1155 mobo itself.

I am leaning towards turning the i5 build into an AMD build. But, what would you all do if you were in my shoes?

ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Z77A-G45-LGA-1155-Intel-Motherboard/173940978021

new amd
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EVMCXJ8/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FN9QT34

...After attending the BOINC workshop in Chicago, I'm heading west and should arrive in Berkeley on Wednesday 17 July (Amtrak permitting!). I'm cheating by flying over the, well, flyover states, but greatly looking forward to checking the train-ride from Denver off my bucket list...

"Amtrak permitting" is the big thing. I've been delayed mid-trip before to let a freight train pass on the same track. I've also had a cousin be delayed 3 hours on an Amtrak from St. Louis to Chicago, so by that time driving would have been faster. Just be warned that Amtrak can be slow at times. Although I will admit, I bet the ride through the Rockies would be worth it. Not much to look out here in the midwest.

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Seti@home classic: 1,456 results, 1.613 years CPU time

Although I will admit, I bet the ride through the Rockies would be worth it. Not much to look out here in the midwest.

I travelled on the California Zephyr last September, Chicago to San Francisco. I quite like the "midwest" but to be fair, from Denver onwards it was a trip to remember.

The scenery just keeps getting better,

Just wish I could afford to do it again

And with an arrival time of 16:00 and a roomette to take the strain, I'd actually quite enjoy watching sunset over the bay. If it's delayed past midnight, I might have problems with the hotel reception...

The BLC24 tasks are new and slower.

. . Actually the current blc24 tasks are old and using the old GBT format so they are slower. The next series of blc24 from 58405/6 will be the new GBT format and run faster. But the blc41 series are very new, and they are very slow, like from 2.5 to 3.0 times as long as blc35 tasks using the new GBT format, so expect things to really slow down when we get around to them again. (And I am wondering if that will be the case if/when we finally get Parkes' data to crunch)

Stephen

<shrug>

Anybody else having a hard time getting https://boinc.berkeley.edu to load? I can't get any of the forums to load.

. . might that be related to the failed BOINC server?

Stephen

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I don't know where else to put this note, feel free to move it.

Folks,

I’ve been a member since 2003 and have greatly enjoyed participating in the hunt for extraterrestrial signs of life. I went from a very lowly production rate to earning a two-digit ranking over the years I’ve contributed. My highest rank has been 79.

That said, the costs to participate at the level I am adds about $115 to my monthly electric bill. I also find that I’m not willing to spend the capital to radically upgrade my three crunchers to the current technology and somewhat lower my electrical footprint.

. . From a purely accounting point of view, over a couple of years the right new hardware can both lift productivity and pay for itself in power savings but it requires that much time to balance the equation, not a short term investment.

I am also 13 years into my diagnosis of Alzheimer’s and am losing my ability to trouble shoot and maintain my systems to the levels I desire. All my life, I’ve been able to learn something new every day. Now I seem to be losing something I’ve known for years, every day.

I’ve been very lucky over the years to have joined SETI@home. I attended a SETI@home Christmas party a couple of years ago and met many of the SETI@home staff and luminaries such as Frank Drake, Dan Werthimer, and Jill Tarter.

Of all the folks that have helped me over all these years, I wish to recognize Richard Haselgrove. Richard is among the ‘gods’ of SETI@home with his knowledge and patience in helping me and so many others with our attempts to contribute.

I’ve never met any of my fellow participants of SETI@home although it would have been nice to have done so.

. . I'm with you there, being an Aussie I have never had the privilege of attending any of the project 'get togethers' and I have also not met any fellow volunteers. But if your message is a way of saying farewell then I for one am sorry to see you leave, the project needs all its dedicated contributors. As for the Alzheimers you have my strongest wishes for success in fighting it, I have read repeatedly of researchers announcing 'breakthroughs' in treating this condition but have yet to read that there is a growing army of recovered patients, but I keep hoping that will change soon and wish you the good fortune to be amongst the first of them.

. . And for the record, I completely concur with your comment about Richard.

Live Long and Prosper,

John McClelland

. .And you as well ..

Stephen

But, what would you all do if you were in my shoes?

Wait for the Ryzen 3000 series to be released.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Greetings,

I thought I would let everyone here know about the latest NVIDIA driver, v430.86. I installed it yesterday, in the hopes that it would get rid of my memory problem, per instructions I found during research. I upgraded from v425.31. Watch out!

This is mainly for those of us that use our PCs for gaming as well. After the upgrade I went into World of Warcraft and while flying from one zone to another, I saw some major artifact garbage. I downgraded back to what I was using, have been in WoW 3 times since and the artifact garbage went away.

My current memory problem is not like the last one which was an "out of memory" error. This one is a "cannot read" error. I have seen that one before and not on this PC, it was on an older one. Actually, my Linux box and a different video card. But I don't game on it so no problem. :)

Just thought I would pass this on. Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Well the Nvidia 430.86 has in fact been out for around a month, I upgraded at that time and have had no problems at all, either crunching or online gaming, in Fallout 76.

So YMMV ;-)

Well the Nvidia 430.86 has in fact been out for around a month, I upgraded at that time and have had no problems at all, either crunching or online gaming, in Fallout 76.

So YMMV ;-)

Hi Bernie,

Perhaps I'll re-install it and shut down BOINC when in WoW. But... I seem to remember doing that when I saw the artifact garbage. Maybe I just suspended it instead of shutting it down completely. I also think I'll re-download the driver as well. Perhaps it got fudged some how during the beaming process. ;) By the way, I'm not sure what Fallout 76 is. Does it have flying and a lot of open sky?

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

I just downloaded and ran the Intel® Processor Diagnostic Tool release 4.1.1.33 (IPDT_Installer_4.1.1.33_64bit.exe). Everything including the memory controller passed in my i7 8086K CPU. That tells me that the controller cannot be at fault for my random "out of memory" and "cannot read" memory errors. I have used Blizzards "Scan and Repair" tool several times to "fix" WoW. I used Windows 10's built in Memory Diagnostic tool, which found nothing wrong with my original 16GBs of RAM. I have run with BOINC suspended and not running at all. I have still gotten the error(s) on occasion. I can think of only one other thing that I cannot test unless I do some uninstalling...

I have had at least 3 Micro$oft update sessions this month, one just yesterday. I was under the impression that unless there was a dire need, we would only get updates once a month, on "Patch Tuesday". Is it possible that there is a correlation between these updates and my random memory problems?

The only other thing that has me completely baffled is the fact that I ONLY get the random memory errors when I try to start WoW or once while I was in game (the in game was a "cannot read" error) and once when I was trying to load one of my characters (cannot remember what that error was).

Is there any possibility at all that BOINC could be the culprit? As mentioned above, even with BOINC not running I get an occasional error. Most of the time I have no problem running WoW with BOINC running also.

One more last thought is that perhaps these are not MY memory errors, but errors in game. Is that even possible? I have noticed some major lag when there are many, many players online.

From what I have read, 16GBs of RAM is more than enough RAM for any PC user to need. I now have 32GBs. I should not be getting "out of memory" errors. I didn't when I had 16GBs and this only started on the 14th this month. I very seldom had a memory problem before this; definitely not on this PC anyway.

Ok, one more last thought. Could there be a problem with the motherboard? From what I understand, this MB is an early version of this model, an ASUS Prime Z370-A. Before I got the 8086K CPU I was running an i7 8700 (no K) in this MB. I never had a problem with that CPU. Also, as mentioned above, the 8086K passed the diagnostics. I am at a loss...

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

OK, some wild guesses to try to eliminate what might be awry:

The first is always to run a soak test with Memtest86+ and then the GIMPS "Torture Test"...

If they pass ok, you can then start checking other parts of the system.


One common source for causing 'random events' is if your PSU is suffering from excess heat, too little power margin, or is just suffering old age with failing capacitors...

Try running with a minimum of peripherals/cards and work back up to a full system?

Or... What new software might you have on there?...


Good luck and good sleuthing?

Keep searchin',
Martin

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The issues you describe sound very much like driver / software issues.
The software- WoW -is doing things the driver objects to. Having BOINC running exacerbates the issue- most likely the fact you're using the GPU to crunch, hence the problem with the driver / WoW issue is greater than when not crunching.

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Grant
Darwin NT

The issues you describe sound very much like driver / software issues.
The software- WoW -is doing things the driver objects to. Having BOINC running exacerbates the issue- most likely the fact you're using the GPU to crunch, hence the problem with the driver / WoW issue is greater than when not crunching.

Hi Grant,

You know, I have been leaning toward WoW being the culprit all this time. So basically you suggest that I shut BOINC down completely when going into WoW, right? ;) I shall endeavor to remember to do that from now on. :) I'll also look through the error report to see if it points to GPU RAM or system RAM. I have looked before but never thought that it could be the GPU RAM, but then the reports are mostly WAY OVER my head anyway. ;) I assume the memory controller for the GPU is on the card?

Thanks and have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

You know, I have been leaning toward WoW being the culprit all this time. So basically you suggest that I shut BOINC down completely when going into WoW, right? ;) I shall endeavor to remember to do that from now on. :)

You can also try two other things that would "automate" that shutdown.
1) There is the ability to suspend Boinc anytime you start a particular application (eg. WOW).
or
2) You could set up the Gpu tasks to suspend anytime you are using the machine.
Both of these are available via the Boinc Manager (local) option.

HTH,
Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

You know, I have been leaning toward WoW being the culprit all this time. So basically you suggest that I shut BOINC down completely when going into WoW, right? ;) I shall endeavor to remember to do that from now on. :)

You can also try two other things that would "automate" that shutdown.
1) There is the ability to suspend Boinc anytime you start a particular application (eg. WOW).
or
2) You could set up the Gpu tasks to suspend anytime you are using the machine.
Both of these are available via the Boinc Manager (local) option.

HTH,
Tom

Hi Tom,

Thanks for this. I just initiated both CPU and GPU suspension when going into WoW. Hope this helps.

I just don't understand why it suddenly happened after all this time without a problem. :\

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

You know, I have been leaning toward WoW being the culprit all this time. So basically you suggest that I shut BOINC down completely when going into WoW, right? ;) I shall endeavor to remember to do that from now on. :)

You can also try two other things that would "automate" that shutdown.
1) There is the ability to suspend Boinc anytime you start a particular application (eg. WOW).
or
2) You could set up the Gpu tasks to suspend anytime you are using the machine.
Both of these are available via the Boinc Manager (local) option.

HTH,
Tom

Hi Tom,

Thanks for this. I just initiated both CPU and GPU suspension when going into WoW. Hope this helps.

I just don't understand why it suddenly happened after all this time without a problem. :\

Have a great day! :)

Siran

IIRR, from the days of setting up eldest's PC, with WOW make sure you suspend the game not just the game launcher.