Spent a lot of time driving around our exercise area in a variety of late 40's and 50's vehicles including such delights as the old Scammell 6x6 recovery, AEC Matador and a host of others.

Have also done delivery work with the Thornycroft Antar 1B, that was a beast.

Ah, the glory days of English big iron.
Leyland Hippos & Super Hippos & Buffalos. Foden. And the King of them all- the Rotinoff.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Spent a lot of time driving around our exercise area in a variety of late 40's and 50's vehicles including such delights as the old Scammell 6x6 recovery, AEC Matador and a host of others.

Have also done delivery work with the Thornycroft Antar 1B, that was a beast.

Ah, the glory days of English big iron.
Leyland Hippos & Super Hippos & Buffalos. Foden. And the King of them all- the Rotinoff.

Never handled the Rotinoff, driven the rest.
Also some of the smaller ones such as the Scammell mechanical horse, Bedford QL and RL and green goddess.

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Kevin

Who thinks that more data will need to be added before the end of the month? We currently have 7527 channels to do. In the event that more tapes get added I wonder whether or not they will be allowed to process before project hibernation?

I'm not sure about anyone else but I think it would be good to see us process the noisy tapes that were pulled because of people not been able to keep their cues full. I am aware that it will create bloat in the database but since it's getting shut down soon would that make a big difference? I guess it all comes down to what data they want. I wonder if there is any particular data they want processed before hibernation

I may have said this before but I also wonder whether or not there will be a cleanup. Or whether the work will just get deleted all run in-house.
I guess these questions will get answered on the or after the 31st of this month or in my case 1 April as I am in New Zealand.

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Who thinks that more data will need to be added before the end of the month? We currently have 7527 channels to do. In the event that more tapes get added I wonder whether or not they will be allowed to process before project hibernation?

I'm not sure about anyone else but I think it would be good to see us process the noisy tapes that were pulled because of people not been able to keep their cues full. I am aware that it will create bloat in the database but since it's getting shut down soon would that make a big difference? I guess it all comes down to what data they want. I wonder if there is any particular data they want processed before hibernation

I may have said this before but I also wonder whether or not there will be a cleanup. Or whether the work will just get deleted all run in-house.
I guess these questions will get answered on the or after the 31st of this month or in my case 1 April as I am in New Zealand.

I think they are going to keep the system running for resends and results after Mar 31. No promise of new data though. Hopefully they know what tapes need to get done for papers they want to write and get it on the splitter before Mar 31. I can imagine a tape here and there being loaded as it is discovered in the process of writing a paper that a bit of data is needed, but
maybe that is wishful thinking on my part. I'll be hanging around for the stray resend as I try out other projects. I assume others will be too, as the announcement of the end hasn't sent many away yet.

i don't know if these ones will be processed in the future ..

blc22_2bit_guppi_58376_50203_HIP38119_0088 48.48 GB
blc22_2bit_guppi_58383_72134_HIP69442_0031 8.38 GB

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New Arecibo files are still being added.

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i don't know if these ones will be processed in the future ..

blc22_2bit_guppi_58376_50203_HIP38119_0088 48.48 GB
blc22_2bit_guppi_58383_72134_HIP69442_0031 8.38 GB

My understanding when project goes into hibernation the only work that will be processed as the work that is out in the field and possibly any work that misses its deadline. Perhaps the tapes you mention will be processed after the project returns from hibernation whenever that may be

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New Arecibo files are still being added.

Yes I am aware that these tapes keep getting added I presume this will happen right up until the 31st

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I think they are going to keep the system running for resends and results after Mar 31. No promise of new data though. Hopefully they know what tapes need to get done for papers they want to write and get it on the splitter before Mar 31. I can imagine a tape here and there being loaded as it is discovered in the process of writing a paper that a bit of data is needed, but maybe that is wishful thinking on my part. I'll be hanging around for the stray resend as I try out other projects. I assume others will be too, as the announcement of the end hasn't sent many away yet.

I and I think many others will keep the project app installed and cycling simply because it will be pretty cheap to do so. All it will take is some ram and a little bit of time on your CPU.

While I am not sure Seti@Home will accept a "0" resource-level I have no doubt if I set it "tail end charlie" settings I use on my lowest priority projects it will still poll often enough to pull anything down if it is available.

Tom M

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I and I think many others will keep the project app installed and cycling simply because it will be pretty cheap to do so. All it will take is some ram and a little bit of time on your CPU.

Agreed

While I am not sure Seti@Home will accept a "0" resource-level I have no doubt if I set it "tail end charlie" settings I use on my lowest priority projects it will still poll often enough to pull anything down if it is available.

Tom M

No reason to change the resource level, really. If there's nothing to get, BOINC will just move on.

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It has been mentioned in a thread somewhere that when RAC falls too low the user can no longer post to the message board. There was some expectation that the "powers that be" will remove that restriction in order for the message board to continue to function for exchange of ideas, etc.
There is another similar situation that occurs to me. If, at some future time, a new set of applications is developed for the Seti user community they would get distributed automatically to those hosts that are still running the stock apps; but NOT to the hosts running the optimized versions in anonymous mode. The only way we (anonymous hosts) would find out about such new apps would be through these message board posts. Just another reason to keep the message boards open for everyone.

It has been mentioned in a thread somewhere that when RAC falls too low the user can no longer post to the message board. There was some expectation that the "powers that be" will remove that restriction in order for the message board to continue to function for exchange of ideas, etc.
There is another similar situation that occurs to me. If, at some future time, a new set of applications is developed for the Seti user community they would get distributed automatically to those hosts that are still running the stock apps; but NOT to the hosts running the optimized versions in anonymous mode. The only way we (anonymous hosts) would find out about such new apps would be through these message board posts. Just another reason to keep the message boards open for everyone.

Good point. One possible work-around would be to rename the "app-info.xml" file so that Seti@Home would send down tasks whenever they become available. And if the apps use an entirely different data format we would be covered too.

Tom

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how...

do I get a machine to do tasks in (reverse) order of deadline (before the "oh, c3@p - hi priority - aaaww, you missed the deadline, no credit for 48 hours of cpu time)

right now, one machine is crunching 29-30 april deadlines while 03 april sit and wait...

please and thank you

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how...

do I get a machine to do tasks in (reverse) order of deadline (before the "oh, c3@p - hi priority - aaaww, you missed the deadline, no credit for 48 hours of cpu time)

right now, one machine is crunching 29-30 april deadlines while 03 april sit and wait...

please and thank you

I am not sure if there is another way to do it but this is the way that I would go about it
select all of your tasks and click the suspend button then resume the task or tasks that you want to run

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how...

do I get a machine to do tasks in (reverse) order of deadline (before the "oh, c3@p - hi priority - aaaww, you missed the deadline, no credit for 48 hours of cpu time)

right now, one machine is crunching 29-30 april deadlines while 03 april sit and wait...

please and thank you

I am not sure if there is another way to do it but this is the way that I would go about it
select all of your tasks and click the suspend button then resume the task or tasks that you want to run

There is another way, but requires you to make changes on the client_state file. If you not know how yet, better not try. Is easy to crash the entire cache.

Be aware, if you suspend the WU your host will stop to ask for more work.
Better leave the the scheduler control your crunching order.
When the WU approaches it deadline it will automatically put it at the top.

my 0.02

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how...

do I get a machine to do tasks in (reverse) order of deadline (before the "oh, c3@p - hi priority - aaaww, you missed the deadline, no credit for 48 hours of cpu time)

right now, one machine is crunching 29-30 april deadlines while 03 april sit and wait...

Of course the more you fiddle with things, the more likely your are to miss deadlines without having to fiddle with them again in in the future. Which makes it more likely you will miss deadlines, unless you fiddle with them again. Which will make it more likely you will miss the deadline...
Notice the pattern?

Given it takes a bit over 4 days for some of you systems to return work, it's going to be over 2 more weeks before those 03 April deadlines become an issue. And given that the slowest of your systems can do then in under 6 hours, even if they don't start until a day out from the deadline they can still be done & returned with no problem.

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Grant
Darwin NT

thanks all

I was afraid "select and suspend" was the direct way
don't want to lose AP credits...

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thanks all

I was afraid "select and suspend" was the direct way
don't want to lose AP credits...

You're welcome and I agree you don't want to miss out on those credits they are hard to come by

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thanks all

I was afraid "select and suspend" was the direct way
don't want to lose AP credits...

Even for AP work, your slowest system should be able to do one in 10 hours or so.

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Grant
Darwin NT

thanks all

I was afraid "select and suspend" was the direct way
don't want to lose AP credits...

If you install or have running BoincTasks it is slightly easier, it lists all non-running tasks of a single type ie: all GPU v8 in one line, all CPU v8 in another line, all GPU AP's in another line.

By right clicking on a single line you can suspend all ready to start tasks that are non AP, and what I do is to allow the AP's to run for a few seconds then suspend them, when the last AP's are running I resume the AP'S and then resume the rest of the tasks, the started AP's will then be given priority over the other tasks.

If you are doing that with CPU tasks suspend all your non running tasks then suspending one or more running tasks will save you the wait time before one finishes.

Just remember to resume all work so that downloads start.

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Kevin