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Message 2036382 - Posted: 7 Mar 2020, 0:45:20 UTC


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Message 2036385 - Posted: 7 Mar 2020, 0:52:29 UTC - in response to Message 2036381.  

I like it Grant. LOL. So many levers to pull . . .
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Message 2036407 - Posted: 7 Mar 2020, 2:26:49 UTC

One of my tasks announces a CPU time of 1 second (in reality, it was more like over 6000s). Huh, what? It validated without problem so the result itself is fine, but I've never seen such a nonsensical computing time before.
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Message 2036533 - Posted: 7 Mar 2020, 15:59:11 UTC

Greetings,

I just discovered something on this PC. When I changed from dual booting on 1 SSD to dual on 2 SSDs and when I copied my BOINC directory back over SETI decided it was a new host and gave it a new ID number and all new WUs. The discovery I just made is that all the WUs I had before are still in the projects directory.

What do I do? :\

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2036534 - Posted: 7 Mar 2020, 16:03:04 UTC - in response to Message 2036533.  
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Greetings,

I just discovered something on this PC. When I changed from dual booting on 1 SSD to dual on 2 SSDs and when I copied my BOINC directory back over SETI decided it was a new host and gave it a new ID number and all new WUs. The discovery I just made is that all the WUs I had before are still in the projects directory.

What do I do? :\

Have a great day! :)

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Try to merge both hosts, almost sure this will not work but you loose nothing if you try. if not works you create a graveyard with a lot of ghosts on it, you have very little to do in this case.
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Message 2036596 - Posted: 7 Mar 2020, 22:35:14 UTC - in response to Message 2036381.  


giggle...
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giggle...

Would be interesting to see what happens if the Windows 7 image was changed to a Windows 10 image. Giggle at the Linux picture it looks like it's in second gear. From all accounts I would have thought it would have been in fifth gear.
I am aware that project is not around for a lot longer, I wish the next was easier to use because I could have got more work done however I am happy with what I have contributed
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Would be interesting to see what happens if the Windows 7 image was changed to a Windows 10 image. Giggle at the Linux picture it looks like it's in second gear. From all accounts I would have thought it would have been in fifth gear.
I am aware that project is not around for a lot longer, I wish the next was easier to use because I could have got more work done however I am happy with what I have contributed


It might be a dual-range gearbox which means it is technically in 7th gear...

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Message 2036659 - Posted: 8 Mar 2020, 2:23:43 UTC - in response to Message 2036656.  

Fair point Tom this would make sense
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Message 2036665 - Posted: 8 Mar 2020, 2:50:21 UTC
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Think Mack B61 Quadruplex, when driving trucks required serious skill-changing gears required two hands.
Wouldn't have been too bad on the open road, and level. But add some hills or around town driving and they'd have been an absolute bugger to drive. You'd be seriously knackered by the end of the day.




Video of technique required


And a very good article on it
Then there are the transmissions -- yes, plural. The main and the auxiliary. Today, they are bundled together in the same box, roughly speaking, with the two gearshifts replaced by the shift lever and a hi-lo range selector, roughly equal to today's 9- or 10-speeds. The triplex and quadraplex transmissions (5x3 and 5x4) roughly parallel today's 13-and 18-speed gearboxes.

In principal, they are easy enough to command. First gear on the main box, low then into high on the auxiliary. That's the easy part. Next, shift the main into second, but before engaging the clutch, you pull the auxiliary out of high, rev the engine, slip it into low and engage the clutch. Now you're in second low. Depending on the load, you might have to do that all the way up through the gears 'till you get to top speed. More likely, you'll cheat and run through a few gears in low before you have to start splitting them. It only gets worse when you get into the 3- and 4-speed auxiliaries.

Shift timing had to be impeccable, and good drivers could often skip shift and even split odd gears. If you missed a shift, the old bulldog would bite you but good. The teeth on the gears were spaced pretty widely apart, so there was a good chance that a partially engaged gear would kick the shifter back. If you were lucky, the meaty part of the palm of your hand took the brunt of it. Drivers have had wrists and fingers broken by the kickback.

If you happened to miss a split shift, you wound up in what they called double-nothin' -- both transmissions in neutral. That often meant a full stop to get the thing back into gear, though some of the better drivers could finesse them back into gear, if they could remember which gear they were in.

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The other makes and models of that vintage were the same. There was almost no suspension to speak of, drivers baked in the summer and froze in the winter and there was barely enough room behind the wheel for even a 200-lb driver. Sharp metal edges were everywhere in the cab. There were no seatbelts or air bags, no adaptive cruise control or stability control systems and certainly none of the comforts drivers enjoy today like upholstery, air conditioning, lumbar supports, automated transmissions, subwoofers, GPS, etc.

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Message 2036667 - Posted: 8 Mar 2020, 3:03:51 UTC - in response to Message 2036665.  

Thanks for the video. Imagine if you got a dollar for every time you shifted each lever
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Message 2036669 - Posted: 8 Mar 2020, 3:09:27 UTC

Now that's brings back memories of 1970 learning to drive my old man's '67 C1800 Inter that had a 5sp box with a 3sp splitter behind it, the same technique was required except that the levers where on the correct side of the wheel. :-D

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Message 2036720 - Posted: 8 Mar 2020, 10:09:36 UTC - in response to Message 2036534.  

Greetings,

I just discovered something on this PC. When I changed from dual booting on 1 SSD to dual on 2 SSDs and when I copied my BOINC directory back over SETI decided it was a new host and gave it a new ID number and all new WUs. The discovery I just made is that all the WUs I had before are still in the projects directory.

What do I do? :\

Have a great day! :)

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Try to merge both hosts, almost sure this will not work but you loose nothing if you try. if not works you create a graveyard with a lot of ghosts on it, you have very little to do in this case.

Hi Juan,

Yeah, I already did the merge when I found out. Did not help :( They will clear once they reach their deadlines won't they? Or will I end up painstakingly deleting each one?

Have a great day! :)

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The other makes and models of that vintage were the same. There was almost no suspension to speak of, drivers baked in the summer and froze in the winter and there was barely enough room behind the wheel for even a 200-lb driver. Sharp metal edges were everywhere in the cab. There were no seatbelts or air bags, no adaptive cruise control or stability control systems and certainly none of the comforts drivers enjoy today like upholstery, air conditioning, lumbar supports, automated transmissions, subwoofers, GPS, etc.



Ah, the good old days. I got lucky.
1) Only had to contend with 10 speed and Super 10.
2) Had AirConditioning.
3) Had Power Steering.
4) I ended up in a Volvo fairly early on. It had more springs (softer/smoother ride) and a self-correcting turn signal.
5) Eventually, it had built-in temperature on the outside air so I never did get hit with un-expected black ice conditions.
6) Had lots of interstates which made the going faster and easier.

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Message 2036744 - Posted: 8 Mar 2020, 13:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 2036720.  
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Greetings,

I just discovered something on this PC. When I changed from dual booting on 1 SSD to dual on 2 SSDs and when I copied my BOINC directory back over SETI decided it was a new host and gave it a new ID number and all new WUs. The discovery I just made is that all the WUs I had before are still in the projects directory.

What do I do? :\

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Try to merge both hosts, almost sure this will not work but you loose nothing if you try. if not works you create a graveyard with a lot of ghosts on it, you have very little to do in this case.

Hi Juan,

Yeah, I already did the merge when I found out. Did not help :( They will clear once they reach their deadlines won't they? Or will I end up painstakingly deleting each one?

Have a great day! :)

Siran

What you could do is try the ghost recovering protocol and see if it recovers the missing one. Set the host to NNT crunch all of them, report and them detach the host. Ten come back to the right host and continue your normal crunching.
If you do nothing the ghost will be sended to another host when they reach the death lines. At least this is how works now.
But who knows how the servers will going to work after March 31? That is a mystery.
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Message 2036749 - Posted: 8 Mar 2020, 14:07:26 UTC

Worked in a military vehicle storage depot, at the time we had a lot of old vehicles in short term storage, ie: de-batteried but on a 6 month exercise routine.

Spent a lot of time driving around our exercise area in a variety of late 40's and 50's vehicles including such delights as the old Scammell 6x6 recovery, AEC Matador and a host of others.

Have also done delivery work with the Thornycroft Antar 1B, that was a beast.

I would like to see some of these new drivers try to handle some of these:-)
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Message 2036881 - Posted: 9 Mar 2020, 6:21:57 UTC - in response to Message 2036749.  

Spent a lot of time driving around our exercise area in a variety of late 40's and 50's vehicles including such delights as the old Scammell 6x6 recovery, AEC Matador and a host of others.

Have also done delivery work with the Thornycroft Antar 1B, that was a beast.
Ah, the glory days of English big iron.
Leyland Hippos & Super Hippos & Buffalos. Foden. And the King of them all- the Rotinoff.
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Spent a lot of time driving around our exercise area in a variety of late 40's and 50's vehicles including such delights as the old Scammell 6x6 recovery, AEC Matador and a host of others.

Have also done delivery work with the Thornycroft Antar 1B, that was a beast.
Ah, the glory days of English big iron.
Leyland Hippos & Super Hippos & Buffalos. Foden. And the King of them all- the Rotinoff.


Never handled the Rotinoff, driven the rest.
Also some of the smaller ones such as the Scammell mechanical horse, Bedford QL and RL and green goddess.
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Message 2037060 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 3:44:48 UTC
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Who thinks that more data will need to be added before the end of the month? We currently have 7527 channels to do. In the event that more tapes get added I wonder whether or not they will be allowed to process before project hibernation?

I'm not sure about anyone else but I think it would be good to see us process the noisy tapes that were pulled because of people not been able to keep their cues full. I am aware that it will create bloat in the database but since it's getting shut down soon would that make a big difference? I guess it all comes down to what data they want. I wonder if there is any particular data they want processed before hibernation

I may have said this before but I also wonder whether or not there will be a cleanup. Or whether the work will just get deleted all run in-house.
I guess these questions will get answered on the or after the 31st of this month or in my case 1 April as I am in New Zealand.
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Who thinks that more data will need to be added before the end of the month? We currently have 7527 channels to do. In the event that more tapes get added I wonder whether or not they will be allowed to process before project hibernation?

I'm not sure about anyone else but I think it would be good to see us process the noisy tapes that were pulled because of people not been able to keep their cues full. I am aware that it will create bloat in the database but since it's getting shut down soon would that make a big difference? I guess it all comes down to what data they want. I wonder if there is any particular data they want processed before hibernation

I may have said this before but I also wonder whether or not there will be a cleanup. Or whether the work will just get deleted all run in-house.
I guess these questions will get answered on the or after the 31st of this month or in my case 1 April as I am in New Zealand.


I think they are going to keep the system running for resends and results after Mar 31. No promise of new data though. Hopefully they know what tapes need to get done for papers they want to write and get it on the splitter before Mar 31. I can imagine a tape here and there being loaded as it is discovered in the process of writing a paper that a bit of data is needed, but
maybe that is wishful thinking on my part. I'll be hanging around for the stray resend as I try out other projects. I assume others will be too, as the announcement of the end hasn't sent many away yet.
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