Greetings,

Well, the Linux box has now acquired some credit and I'm still being told the computer does not exist. :(

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Well the replica (where account details are accessed) is currently around 7 hours behind the master, so depending when you created it the machine may not appear for a while.

Hi Bernie,

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Now that explanation makes sense. I had it attached just before 11 AM central time. So those pages should work after 6 PM my time according to what you tell me, give or take. :) I gather that the data driven web pages get their data from the replicant and not the master? ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I echo Ian's experience. I had a 4 card system with a 1080Ti in the top #0 slot driving the monitor. Then two 1080's in the middle slots and finally added a 1060 to the last bottom slot. Guess what? The system was identified as having four 1060's. The 1060 6GB had the same CC as the rest but only 6GB of memory compared to the 8GB and 11GB of memory of the 1080 Ti.

So the Nvidia rules in gpu_nvidia.cpp seemed to break down Richard.

I gave you the code link - walk it through and find the bug! (Remember the original meaning of the word 'computer').

Remember that the NVidia detection code works in 32-bit. How much of those 6 GB, 8 GB, 11 GB was BOINC able to use in its calculations?

Computers are dumb. Very dumb. They do what people tell them to do. There are only two choices:

1) The programmer told the computer to DO something different from what the programmer WANTED it to do. That's called a bug.
2) The computer is doing exactly what the programmer wanted it to do, but the user thought it was going to do something different. That's called RTFM.

I don't particularly feel the need to "walk the code" as you direct. That the system gets identified "weirdly" in my opinion does not impact the functioning of the system in any way. So purely cosmetic in my opinion.
So based on your criteria:

// factors (decreasing priority):
// - compute capability >> same
// - software version >> same
// - available memory >> same since the code is 32 bit and all cards are only identified with 4GB of memory, i.e. max reportable in 32 bits >> therefore available memory >> same
// - speed >> not same. 1060 slowest of the cards in clock speed since air cooled versus hybrid cooling on the 1080's and 1080 Ti leading to the 1060 having a 300 Mhz deficit to the 1080's

Therefore . . . . . Who knows? Who cares?

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reply to og post i did. ok i was not sure on it. so thats why i ask. am also working on getting 4 more 580s. that was the other reason for asking. on the strange listing info

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I don't particularly feel the need to "walk the code" as you direct. That the system gets identified "weirdly" in my opinion does not impact the functioning of the system in any way. So purely cosmetic in my opinion.

Therefore . . . . . Who knows? Who cares?

Fair enough. No need to worry about it. But likewise, no need to make comments about it, either.

But can we please agree that digital computers run according to the logic in their programs? It isn't 'weird', or random: it's code. And it is (theoretically) knowable.

Whether or not we're interested in actually knowing depends on us, and on the circumstances. There's probably a greater 'need to know' if the code is controlling the position of the rear stabiliser of a Boeing 737-800 Max than if it's controlling the primary GPU name of a host on a BOINC server. But the principle is the same.

Talking of bugs we were trying to get fixed, did you see the new work fetch code in #3076 this morning? I think that's one we're both interested in. I've had the new code running for over 6 hours now, with no obvious defects, but I can't test work fetch while there's no work on the server.

Talking of bugs we were trying to get fixed, did you see the new work fetch code in #3076 this morning? I think that's one we're both interested in. I've had the new code running for over 6 hours now, with no obvious defects, but I can't test work fetch while there's no work on the server.

No, I hadn't seen that one yet. Thanks for the tip. Off for a read now. Agree, hard to test with no work available currently.

My post was a reply to the OP questioning why the RX 460 identified the system when he added the RX 580. I guess I could have just stated to not worry about it as long as both cards are being identified in startup and are being used. Wasn't necessary to add my commentary I guess.

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Fair enough. No need to worry about it. But likewise, no need to make comments about it, either.

But can we please agree that digital computers run according to the logic in their programs? It isn't 'weird', or random: it's code. And it is (theoretically) knowable.

i was simply stating (or maybe implying) that based on my first hand experience, the code is not following the simple logic that is described in that comment. it is certainly doing something else to get the results I have seen.

of course it's just following its own programming, no one denies that. just that the programming must be different/more complicated than what was described.

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to keith.
their both being used and all.
i just thought i stumble on a bug or something and wanted to report it.

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It would appear not all scammers are basement dwelling lowlifes.
Office Depot pays FTC $25 million for allegedly using fake malware scans and charging for repairs

Office Depot and its software supplier, Support.com, have agreed to pay a total of $35 million for allegedly using fake malware scans that convinced customers to pay for repair services.
... a tool called PC Health Check Program to show customers that malware infections had been discovered on a computer when no such problems were present.

The FTC alleges that the software’s results were entirely dependent on whether a customer answered yes to any of the four questions they were asked at the beginning of the program. These included questions about whether the computer ran slow, received virus warnings, crashed often, or displayed pop-up ads. Clicking on ‘yes’ to any of these would result in the scan finding malware. PC Health Check Program also recommended customers purchase repair services, which could exceed $300, to address the problem.

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Grant
Darwin NT

It would appear not all scammers are basement dwelling lowlifes.
Office Depot pays FTC $25 million for allegedly using fake malware scans and charging for repairs

Office Depot and its software supplier, Support.com, have agreed to pay a total of $35 million for allegedly using fake malware scans that convinced customers to pay for repair services.
... a tool called PC Health Check Program to show customers that malware infections had been discovered on a computer when no such problems were present.

The FTC alleges that the software’s results were entirely dependent on whether a customer answered yes to any of the four questions they were asked at the beginning of the program. These included questions about whether the computer ran slow, received virus warnings, crashed often, or displayed pop-up ads. Clicking on ‘yes’ to any of these would result in the scan finding malware. PC Health Check Program also recommended customers purchase repair services, which could exceed $300, to address the problem.

Hi Grant,

This isn't the first time they've been nabbed. They were caught sometime within the past 2 years or so. Office Depot and Office Max went back to business as usual after that. They'll probably do it again this time. I will NOT go to them to by a pencil let alone have them figure out a problem with my PCs. Besides, that's my job. ;) Those guys are shysters.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

[edit]
I just read the article and it looks like this settlement was for what was exposed in 2016. I still wouldn't doubt that they're still doing it or will continue to do it. I also have a vague remembrance about support.com too in that they are shysters. I seem to remember something about a scam concerning them...
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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

Why does BOINC "think" I only have 4GB of RAM on my new GTX 1660 Ti video card. It has 6GB of GDDR6. NVIDIA Control panel, GPU-Z and the box it came in says 6GB.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

This was answered yesterday by Richard:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82901&postid=1987804

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

This was answered yesterday by Richard:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82901&postid=1987804

And many times before over the years - but that one was in this very thread.

1987804 was actually Keith's question - my answer was in 1987807.

This was answered yesterday by Richard:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82901&postid=1987804

And many times before over the years - but that one was in this very thread.

1987804 was actually Keith's question - my answer was in 1987807.

Hi Richard,

Is this your answer?

Remember that the NVidia detection code works in 32-bit. How much of those 6 GB, 8 GB, 11 GB was BOINC able to use in its calculations?

Could there be a flaw in that answer?

I run a 64 bit OS on a 64 bit PC. The BOINC version I installed is 64 bit, not 32 bit. Why would anything 64 bit do anything 32 bit? What would be the purpose of having 32 bit and 64 bit versions of BOINC if the 64 bit version is gonna do 32 bit calculations anyway? Obviously I'm not a programmer. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

Another reason to dislike VNC:

VNC is a "bandwidth hog" because it's oriented at duplicating the pixels of the remote display. Conversely, RDP is based on drawing primitives (boxes, lines, etc) rather than sending pixel updates. Think of it like this: In VNC, the pixels on the display that change get sent over the wire (simplified somewhat). If lots of pixels get modified-- say in drawing a large box in the middle of the screen, a potentially large number of pixels are modified and need to be sent over the wire. In RDP, the instruction "draw a box in the middle of the screen" gets sent over the wire (which is much more concise than a list of pixels to change) and the client "draws the box". (I'm radically simplifying this and not considering VNC compression at all, but this gives you a general idea of how it works.)

I have a network meter widget on my Windows 10 PC. At a glance I can see how much bandwidth I use. Several months ago we went over our ISPs allotment and they didn't charge us for the extra block they gave us. Since there are 2 of us on the Internet I have my meter set to 200GB since we are allotted 400 per month. Granted we have not gone over our quota this month, we are far from doing that. But...

Yesterday I noticed that my meter displays a red 0% remaining bandwidth. Currently my "Used" is 267.6 GB. I looked at the bandwidth usage in Windows 10 settings and VNC is at the TOP of the list. It has surpassed Firefox BIG time. Windows does not show me going over my 200GB. I knew there was a reason I liked RDC (RDP). With RDC there's also no lag such as the major lag in VNC, not even on my Pis is there lag with RDC.

What was the reason for not using RDC? I'll see about avoiding whatever it is. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

What was the reason for not using RDC? I'll see about avoiding whatever it is. :)

If you are connecting via RDC to a windows box the GPU can't crunch.

What was the reason for not using RDC? I'll see about avoiding whatever it is. :)

If you are connecting via RDC to a windows box the GPU can't crunch.

this.

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What was the reason for not using RDC? I'll see about avoiding whatever it is. :)

If you are connecting via RDC to a windows box the GPU can't crunch.

Hi Gary,

Ah, thanks. No remote host is a Windows box, just Linux. So, I'm good to go! Woohoo! :)

Thanks again and have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

What was the reason for not using RDC? I'll see about avoiding whatever it is. :)

If you are connecting via RDC to a windows box the GPU can't crunch.

this.

Hi Ian,

"this" what? lol ;)

have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

What was the reason for not using RDC? I'll see about avoiding whatever it is. :)

If you are connecting via RDC to a windows box the GPU can't crunch.

this.

Hi Ian,

"this" what? lol ;)

have a great day! :)

Siran

“This” in reply to something, is modern vernacular for “I concur”

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