With the experience I got while getting the Pis to connect to my Win PC, I should have no problem with the Linux PC. :) Haven't decided on a flavor yet, kinda leaning toward Mint. I do have Kubuntu v14.04.4, but that's from 2016. I'd rather go with more current. :) Gotta burn it to a flash drive. I hope to have it online the first week of April

A word of warning about Mint. Others today have stated they can't run the All-in-One on Mint 18 because of unmet dependencies and the required libraries are not available in the repos.

So at minimum, Mint 19 or "Tessa" is required.

Hi Keith,

I downloaded Mint 19, Tessa, yesterday and will be burning it to a flash drive today. Looks like I'm a step ahead of ya. ;) lol

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

@Keith: I am posting this from my Linux Mint box. I don't have BOINC installed because I installed on my questionable HDD. The burn to flash drive worked and the install worked, obviously. ;)

I was going to use my GT 740 SC video card but it has no HDMI connector. Good thing this mobo has onboard video via HDMI.

Next I'm going to work on my files so I don't have to use the HDMI cable. I'll be back later with an update. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

Ok, back with an update. First, I'm not going to use any flavor of VNC.

I could not get a connection to the Mint box so I started googling. I found a forum where someone posted a fix for remote accessing the Linux box. I had to install 'xrdp' and 'lightvncserver'. Now I get a connection to the box but I'm getting a login error. I'm half way there, I got the connection. I just need to figure out the login problem.

I get:

connecting to sesman ip 127.x.x.x port 3350
sesman connect ok
sending login info to session manager, please wait...
login failed for display 0

Now that I have that recorded here, I'm going to google some more.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Which direction or which box is attempting to access which other box via VNC?

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The Haveland stats site is down for me. Anybody else have that issue?

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For those who want to get refresher course in memory timings and also a full featured, authoritative article on Ryzen memory architecture and the benefits of overclocking, I would suggest a read of the new article by 1usmus or Yuri Bubly who has been developing the Ryzen Memory Calculator for the past couple of years. The article is at TechPowerUp. Lots of great info and actual tests and settings for popular memory kits from cheap to expensive.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_Memory_Tweaking_Overclocking_Guide/

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

For those who want to get refresher course in memory timings and also a full featured, authoritative article on Ryzen memory architecture and the benefits of overclocking, I would suggest a read of the new article by 1usmus or Yuri Bubly who has been developing the Ryzen Memory Calculator for the past couple of years. The article is at TechPowerUp. Lots of great info and actual tests and settings for popular memory kits from cheap to expensive.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_Memory_Tweaking_Overclocking_Guide/

Thank you.

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The $120 16GB 2 X 8GB G.Skill Sniper X 3600 C19 kit using the Hynix CJR dies was a revelation for me. I didn't know the price for decent Ryzen compatible RAM was so low now. Good price and really good timings when overclocked.

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Want a cheaper Threadripper? Here: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-threadripper-1900x-deal-sale,38869.html

8c/16t and you get all those Pcie lanes to allow for more gpus to process. :)

Tom

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Still doesn't beat the deal last year for the AMD 1920X that Newegg blew out the door for $279.

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Which direction or which box is attempting to access which other box via VNC?

Hi Keith,

Not using VNC, using RDC. I'm trying to access the Linux box with my Windows 10.

I almost made some progress, well I actually got farther than the login fail.

This is what I get now:

connecting to sesman ip 127.x.x.x port 3350
sesman connect ok
sending login info to session manager, please wait...
login successful for display 10
started connecting
connection problem, giving up
some problem

Per an answer I got, in a forum from someone having the exact same problem, I edited this in /etc/xrdp/sesman.ini. The 2 lines with the ";" are commented which I did.:

[Security]
AllowRootLogin=1
MaxLoginRetry=4
;TerminalServerUsers=tsusers
;TerminalServerAdmins=tsadmins

The login window went away and nothing, or so I thought, I got rid of the RDC window. I re-edited the .ini file to un-comment those 2 lines and the message quoted above is what I get now. It took about 2 minutes for the above message to appear. The first message I quoted in my previous post only took a couple seconds to show. I was surprised when it did. I'm using xdrp and lightvncserver on the Linux box.

My next approach is to see about configurations for those 2 programs that I may have to do because there were no instructions before or during installation.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

[edit]
I think I just found a clue to the problem. I opened up xrdp-sesman.log and found this:

[20190322-07:27:58] [INFO ] /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg :10 -auth .Xauthority -config xrdp/xorg.conf -noreset -nolisten tcp -logfile .xorgxrdp.%s.log  
[20190322-07:28:07] [ERROR] X server for display 10 startup timeout
[20190322-07:28:07] [CORE ] waiting for window manager (pid 2146) to exit
[20190322-07:28:08] [ERROR] X server for display 10 startup timeout
[20190322-07:28:08] [ERROR] another Xserver might already be active on display 10 - see log
[20190322-07:28:08] [DEBUG] aborting connection...
[20190322-07:28:08] [CORE ] window manager (pid 2146) did exit, cleaning up session

Is that referring to X11?
I believe I saw something to fix that...
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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

You need to use VNC for remote access.

RDP doesn’t support the video in the same way, and it will break running of your GPU jobs. When you initiate a session, you’ll see a message on your GPU WUs saying something like “Suspended - GPU Missing”

I know Ubuntu supports VNC natively (not sure If that was carried over to Mint) and you don’t need extra software, you just need to enable screen sharing. Then from your windows computer, you use a program called VNC Viewer and plug in the IP address and port number of the system you want to connect to and you’re in.

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You need to use VNC for remote access.

RDP doesn’t support the video in the same way, and it will break running of your GPU jobs. When you initiate a session, you’ll see a message on your GPU WUs saying something like “Suspended - GPU Missing”

I know Ubuntu supports VNC natively (not sure If that was carried over to Mint) and you don’t need extra software, you just need to enable screen sharing. Then from your windows computer, you use a program called VNC Viewer and plug in the IP address and port number of the system you want to connect to and you’re in.

Hi Ian,

I use RDC to access my Raspberry Pis and have no issues whatsoever with it. I tried using VNC in the Windows 10 PC and it was a headache.

What video? I don't use RDC to watch videos on my Pis and won't on the Linux box.

Alright, I see if I can just get the VNC viewer. When I installed VNC before, there were something like 8 different programs. I don't want bloat.

I'll see what I can do.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

RDP doesn’t support the video in the same way, and it will break running of your GPU jobs. When you initiate a session, you’ll see a message on your GPU WUs saying something like “Suspended - GPU Missing”.

That part of the problem is specific to when it's a Microsoft Windows computer which is being managed remotely. It's the video drivers on the remote machine which are switched out.

I wasn't aware that M$ RDP could be used to manage other operating system - I'd double-check that before spending a lot of time on it.

You need to use VNC for remote access.

RDP doesn’t support the video in the same way, and it will break running of your GPU jobs. When you initiate a session, you’ll see a message on your GPU WUs saying something like “Suspended - GPU Missing”

I know Ubuntu supports VNC natively (not sure If that was carried over to Mint) and you don’t need extra software, you just need to enable screen sharing. Then from your windows computer, you use a program called VNC Viewer and plug in the IP address and port number of the system you want to connect to and you’re in.

Hi Ian,

I use RDC to access my Raspberry Pis and have no issues whatsoever with it. I tried using VNC in the Windows 10 PC and it was a headache.

What video? I don't use RDC to watch videos on my Pis and won't on the Linux box.

Alright, I see if I can just get the VNC viewer. When I installed VNC before, there were something like 8 different programs. I don't want bloat.

I'll see what I can do.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Video as in the VGA signal from the desired system.

You don’t have a problem on your RPi because they don’t have discrete GPUs running work like your Mint System does.

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You need to use VNC for remote access.

RDP doesn’t support the video in the same way, and it will break running of your GPU jobs. When you initiate a session, you’ll see a message on your GPU WUs saying something like “Suspended - GPU Missing”

I know Ubuntu supports VNC natively (not sure If that was carried over to Mint) and you don’t need extra software, you just need to enable screen sharing. Then from your windows computer, you use a program called VNC Viewer and plug in the IP address and port number of the system you want to connect to and you’re in.

Hi Ian,

I use RDC to access my Raspberry Pis and have no issues whatsoever with it. I tried using VNC in the Windows 10 PC and it was a headache.

What video? I don't use RDC to watch videos on my Pis and won't on the Linux box.

Alright, I see if I can just get the VNC viewer. When I installed VNC before, there were something like 8 different programs. I don't want bloat.

I'll see what I can do.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Video as in the VGA signal from the desired system.

You don’t have a problem on your RPi because they don’t have discrete GPUs running work like your Mint System does.

Hi Ian,

Ok, got access with Tightvnc Viewer. I'm already not liking it:
1.) It has this tiny little dot as a cursor.
2.) It's not full screen like RDC is.

I'm using a server called Vino on the Linux box. Mint no longer has the nice point 'n click settings window. Gotta do stuff by hand. One thing I don't like about it is that it runs concurrent in the terminal window. When running, one cannot do anything else without shutting down the server first.

But, I suppose I could get used to Tightvnc Viewer. At least I can get access to the Linux box now. Are there settings which I can change to make it more to my liking? By the way, I doing this post in Firefox on the Linux box through my Windows 10 PC. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Hi Richard,

I wasn't aware that M$ RDP could be used to manage other operating system - I'd double-check that before spending a lot of time on it.

I've done a lot of stuff on my Pis with RDC (RDP). I shut down the BOINC client and shut down my Pis when needed. I've edited config files on each one. One Pi has a different installation which includes a few games and I played one game once just to see how it fared while the Pi was doing BOINC. Fared very well. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Hi Ian,

Ok, got access with Tightvnc Viewer. I'm already not liking it:
1.) It has this tiny little dot as a cursor.
2.) It's not full screen like RDC is.

I'm using a server called Vino on the Linux box. Mint no longer has the nice point 'n click settings window. Gotta do stuff by hand. One thing I don't like about it is that it runs concurrent in the terminal window. When running, one cannot do anything else without shutting down the server first.

But, I suppose I could get used to Tightvnc Viewer. At least I can get access to the Linux box now. Are there settings which I can change to make it more to my liking? By the way, I doing this post in Firefox on the Linux box through my Windows 10 PC. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

use RealVNC Viewer. it's much nicer to use than TightVNC, you can make it fullscreen if you wish.

Ubuntu uses Vino as well.

https://www.realvnc.com/en/connect/download/viewer/

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Hi Ian,

Ok, got access with Tightvnc Viewer. I'm already not liking it:
1.) It has this tiny little dot as a cursor.
2.) It's not full screen like RDC is.

I'm using a server called Vino on the Linux box. Mint no longer has the nice point 'n click settings window. Gotta do stuff by hand. One thing I don't like about it is that it runs concurrent in the terminal window. When running, one cannot do anything else without shutting down the server first.

But, I suppose I could get used to Tightvnc Viewer. At least I can get access to the Linux box now. Are there settings which I can change to make it more to my liking? By the way, I doing this post in Firefox on the Linux box through my Windows 10 PC. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

use RealVNC Viewer. it's much nicer to use than TightVNC, you can make it fullscreen if you wish.

Ubuntu uses Vino as well.

https://www.realvnc.com/en/connect/download/viewer/

Hi ian,

RealVNC requires an account on their cloud server to work. The first viewer I used was it and it would not see any computers. It said if I wanted to see computers for remote access I had to create an account. I don't do anything that requires me to be in a cloud situation.

Yeah, I went to look at other stuff and I saw the button at the top. To get out of it press ctrl-alt-shift-f. Don't they know the K.I.S.S. system, Keep It Simple Stupid? ;)

The one thing that I really don't like is Vino has to run in the terminal. When it's running you can't do anything else. I suppose you could start another terminal window. But that's bogus. Oh well. Plus I had to add it to the Startup Programs list so it starts... Ok, just tested it and the server is running from bootup. So it won't be hogging the terminal. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

it absolutely doesn't. you should be using the viewer only. you have no need for their server. you have Vino running on your system which is the server.

I use it every day with my systems and have no such account.

if this is somehow something new in the latest version, you can use a slightly older version.

i dropped mine on my google drive here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_GacMnwybJ-EqQAh_f-ff5njsh2zlxfx

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