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Message 2025145 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 3:18:02 UTC - in response to Message 2025133.  

OMG. Tomorrow is Friday......

Where has the week GONE!







Oh, yeah, had Tuesday and Wednesday off for Christmas.





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Rofl, I see your sense of humour is still intact.
Hope you had a good one :-)
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Message 2025156 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 7:42:39 UTC - in response to Message 2025131.  

When people have got enough work in their caches is anybody running more than one task on Windows 10 on a RTX 2070 (non-super) and using the machine as a daily driver?
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Based on my own experience with lower-end cards it depends entirely on what you want your gpu to do at the same time you are trying to crunch. It is possible to generate a "laggy" keyboard/mouse response under Windows by setting the parameters on the gpu to a very high setting.

If you are just doing word processing, browsing the internet etc, you should be able to push 1 or more gpu tasks through under a stock Windows setup and still have a responsive "daily driver".

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Thanks Tom. Thought I would ask here to see what settings people are using if they are running in multiple units at a time.
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Message 2025158 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 7:58:31 UTC - in response to Message 2025156.  


Thanks Tom. Thought I would ask here to see what settings people are using if they are running in multiple units at a time.
Seasons greetings to everyone who's been festive


If you look in your Windows Data Folder (hidden) you will find documentation that includes examples for high-end Nvidia's. If you start a separate thread on the topic there are a number of people running Windows with high-end Nvidia's that will probably chime in.

Failing all that here is an ancient "best bang for the buck" thread which may offer some useful command line information: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81516#1870570

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Message 2025159 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 8:23:47 UTC - in response to Message 2025027.  

When people have got enough work in their caches is anybody running more than one task on Windows 10 on a RTX 2070 (non-super) and using the machine as a daily driver?
Season greetings to everybody who is celebrating



Now here's a subject I haven't thought about in a while. If you plan to run more than 1 work unit on your GPU, be aware of how much RAM the GPU has. By default, Nvidia only uses about 27% of the available RAM for Scientific Calculations. ATI and Intel is closer to 50-67%. Depending on your command line, you will find that you can quickly eat up that available RAM.

For OpenCL MB the best ratio is 3 work units per GPU. For APs, it was 5 APs per GPU. But since its nearly impossible to get that many APs anymore, you can just run the ratio of 3 to 1 to keep them moving in the FIFO instead of waiting till you run out of MBs.

Don't over commit the CPU. I also suggest leaving 1-2 thread free to help fee the GPU and leaving the OS something to use as well. I don't recommend the "use at most" % CPU. Instead I use an <project_max_concurrent> in my app_config.xml Yes, Yes, Yes....I know this is going to start a fight over which is the best way to do this. I'm only giving you my opinion. Do what you want. Everyone HAPPY??

All this are on high end GPUs. Those with the fastest RAM on the GPU and the kind of RAM. Go back and look at the DDR used on the 1080Ti vs 1080, 1070 etc. It wasn't the same. This is why we told people to only do these with the highest end GPUs.

All this assumes you aren't using it as a daily driver. If you are, then you will find that there may be significant lag to freezing when you use your computer. Use at your own risk.
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Message 2025196 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 15:41:15 UTC

Just recently rejoined the SETI effort and just wondering if there is any way to sort the team stats by total credits, rather than average credits?

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Message 2025197 - Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 15:42:55 UTC - in response to Message 2025196.  

Here you go. The "Total Credit" column header should be clickable and provide this.
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Message 2025431 - Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 7:34:32 UTC
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Don't know if anyone's come across this, but my Windows machine running 6.10.58 apparently hasn't been able to connect in a while because of a SSL failure.

I had dealt with this a few months ago when dealing with that whole openssl debacle where it needed to be updated to at least 0.9.8o, but now ca-bundle.crt was a culprit.

I turned all kinds of logging debug flags on and found SSL failures and "unknown cipher" and stuff like that, so.. I went and grabbed the latest .crt from the libcurl download (curl.haxx.se) and dropped it in.. works fine now.

But I wonder if this will become a problem again in short order, or if the valid dates can change without the hash key in the .crt having to be updated?

2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: SSLv3, TLS handshake, Finished (20):
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: SSL connection using ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: Server certificate:
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: subject: CN=setiathome.berkeley.edu
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: start date: 2019-11-19 18:06:32 GMT
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: expire date: 2020-02-17 18:06:32 GMT
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: subjectAltName: setiathome.berkeley.edu matched
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: issuer: C=US; O=Let's Encrypt; CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3
2019-12-29 02:26:46 [http_debug] [ID#1] Info: SSL certificate verify ok.


That's only a 3-month certificate. Usually these things go for 1-10 years.

What do you guys think?

edit: the one good thing about updating ca-bundle.crt is that I no longer get a successful scheduler work fetch only to have the log immediately show that server communication failed and to check my internet connection.
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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 2025458 - Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 15:49:35 UTC - in response to Message 2025197.  

Here you go. The "Total Credit" column header should be clickable and provide this.


I can't get it to sort. The header isn't clickable... Here is the page URL https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_members.php?teamid=30195&offset=0&sort_by=expavg_credit
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Message 2025459 - Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 16:01:16 UTC - in response to Message 2025458.  

Here you go. The "Total Credit" column header should be clickable and provide this.


I can't get it to sort. The header isn't clickable... Here is the page URL https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_members.php?teamid=30195&offset=0&sort_by=expavg_credit

Just change the sort_by in the URL.
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_members.php?teamid=30195&offset=0&sort_by=total_credit
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Message 2025617 - Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 22:01:18 UTC

Greetings,

I've been seeing a strange happenstance since the servers were reverted so we can still do anonymous platform.

During the day WUs that are ready to report get stacked up where the ones at night do not stack much at all. Just now , about 10-15 minutes ago,I saw that I had over 50 WUs to report. Any ideas?

Have a great day and Happy New Year! :)

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Message 2025621 - Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 22:25:44 UTC
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You may have had stuck uploads/downloads or you just couldn't connect to the server for some period of time that put you into a backoff state for a while is all I can think of.

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Message 2025625 - Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 22:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 2025617.  

Greetings,

I've been seeing a strange happenstance since the servers were reverted so we can still do anonymous platform.

During the day WUs that are ready to report get stacked up where the ones at night do not stack much at all. Just now , about 10-15 minutes ago,I saw that I had over 50 WUs to report. Any ideas?

Have a great day and Happy New Year! :)

Siran

Check your BOINC Manager event log. It will tell you if tasks are not being reported and what it thinks the problem is ...
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Message 2025691 - Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 11:22:14 UTC - in response to Message 2025621.  

You may have had stuck uploads/downloads or you just couldn't connect to the server for some period of time that put you into a backoff state for a while is all I can think of.

Cheers.

Hi Wiggo,

The thing is, since they fixed the major anonymous platform issue, this has been happening every day since. It's not a random "issue". During the day they stack, over night they don't nearly what they do daily. At night seldom more than 2 or 3 stacked. Daily, I've seen as many as 30+. This is only on my main Linux/Winders PC. No changes made except during the anonymous issue when I went to stock and then back to anonymous.

I'm not really that worried about it. I don't see any problems in the Event Log when I check it. Basically I was wondering if this was a server side issue, perhaps. ;)

Thanks and have a great day! :)

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Message 2025692 - Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 11:55:14 UTC - in response to Message 2025691.  

The thing is, since they fixed the major anonymous platform issue, this has been happening every day since. It's not a random "issue".
Stuck downloads & uploads taking a couple of attempts have been occurring for a month or 2 now, at least. It's not a new issue, and is no worse now than it was before the Scheduler version problems.
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Message 2025693 - Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 12:05:24 UTC

Just now it is almost certainly a server-side issue. There are several thing placing extra loads on the servers, most obvious being the increased task/processor allocation, but also auto-resend being turned on. It is quite spectacular the additional load, in terms of queries/second that doing automatic resends (or ghost clearance) creates - far more than the routine "failed so to another user" process
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Message 2025705 - Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 14:59:17 UTC - in response to Message 2025692.  

The thing is, since they fixed the major anonymous platform issue, this has been happening every day since. It's not a random "issue".
Stuck downloads & uploads taking a couple of attempts have been occurring for a month or 2 now, at least. It's not a new issue, and is no worse now than it was before the Scheduler version problems.

Hi Grant,

I haven't been noticing any stuck downloads or uploads except just after a maintenance cycle.

I just looked and I have 22 GPU and 4 CPU WUs stacked up waiting to report. Ok, just now they reported not even a minute after I last checked. Weird.

Here's a thought: How much control, over BOINC, does BOINCTasks have? BT is running on the PC in question.

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2025768 - Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 22:13:08 UTC

For those with more heat than they can handle.
Full immersion cooling for the consumer (unfortunately at an eye watering price).

There are two types of immersive systems: two phase, where the liquid turns to a gas on heating and then condenses back into a liquid, or single phase systems that rely on a pump and a radiator to help move the liquid. This is the latter, and if you’ve ever heard of the ‘mineral oil’ PC, this is something very similar, except this is a case and coolant dedicated for immersion systems.

‘Mineral Oil’ PCs never took off, as it required specialist components beyond just the mineral oil, and plus a lot of care had to be made, such as anti-fungals, to stop other stuff growing in it. Mineral oil is a very viscous fluid at any rate, making convection hard and pumps had to run hard. Rather than going down that route, CoolBitts will sell you a complete chassis, setup, and coolant, to make your home PC offer a fully immersive experience while you game.



The system uses either a mini-ITX or micro-ATX sized motherboard, with the power supply and graphics cards all immersed, as well as the CPU and memory. The rear IO panel is kept out of the liquid, just to ensure connectivity. The radiator hands off the back of the clear transparent chassis, with four fans in place to perform the airflow. The pump sits inside the chassis, and the rear panel has handles to make accessing the system very easy.

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Message 2025867 - Posted: 1 Jan 2020, 5:41:12 UTC - in response to Message 2025768.  

For those with more heat than they can handle.


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Message 2026004 - Posted: 2 Jan 2020, 11:37:19 UTC

Greetings All

Just throwing it out there, so for my understanding.

Could it be that the server backlog on validation and also since the quota's were increased, that this culminated in everybody's RAC increasing at a slower rate than before.

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Message 2026005 - Posted: 2 Jan 2020, 11:56:01 UTC

The long queue for validation will certainly affect everyone's RAC. For most people the number of tasks in-hand will have very little impact as they are working pretty much on one-return = one-supplied now. But there have been a quite a number of major server issues which have slowed/stalled the actual rate of validation and that's what hits our RACs. There may of course be some peole who hear that the servers are "down" and decide to turn off their hosts until the servers are up, and so aren't processing or returning work.
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