I meant the outside temp, about 38 c, low to mid twenties is more normal over here.

Air con is not normal for domestic use.

Ah.
Depends on the relative humidity for me.
85%+ and even 27° isn't too pleasant. 10% or less and even 42-43 (in the shade) is quite comfortable with just a slight breeze.

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Depends on the relative humidity for me.
85%+ and even 27° isn't too pleasant. 10% or less and even 42-43 (in the shade) is quite comfortable with just a slight breeze.

Average humidity in the UK varies from 60% in the summer to 80% in winter, a totally different climate to where you are.

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Kevin

Temps seem to be holding okay, that extra rad seems to be doing the trick, I have been able to reduce both my interior temps and the loop temps.

We have had a couple of days of rough weather, temps that some on here may consider fairly cool but with 100% humidity and some nasty thunder storms.

Had a play around in the bios and have brought it up to 4.00 GHz with memory at 3.33 GHz, it seems stable, will give it a couple of days running to see.

Additional drive fitted for Linux install, what is the easiest version that should handle my hardware with a learner behind the keyboard.

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Kevin

I'd probably vote for a 16.04 distribution with whatever desktop manager you like the look and feel of.
I have had no problems with Ubuntu 16.04 with its Unity desktop manager interface.
I don't think a 18.04 distribution should be tried by a newbie.
You will probably get started with a 4.13 kernel which would have most of the updated Ryzen/TR fixes. I haven't had any issues with the updated 4.15 kernel on my Ryzens but have had had issues with that kernel with my Intel 6850k.

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Oh well, having no luck here.

Downloaded a couple of versions of Linux, tried both burning them to disc and onto a memory stick, doing something wrong somewhere because all I am getting when I try to install or run is scrolling lists of what I presume is errors.

Going to leave it for a while and try again later in the week.

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Kevin

What distributions did you try? I think that the USB stick installs are the easiest. It always seems to vary for me from system to system installs whether they run right through or not. But lately I have not had any issues with doing the USB stick install with the Try Ubuntu installation first. That always seems to work for me and I get to a proper desktop. From there, I then use the Install Ubuntu desktop icon to make a proper installation. I use Rufus to make my USB stick installs in Windows.

The only thing that has ever caught me out was some of my earlier installations that couldn't set up the default Nouveau graphics drivers with the correct monitor frequencies and so you end up with nothing more than a blank screen and flashing cursor or a X cursor. That is solved by putting into the Linux default kernel command line "nomodeset" in the grub file. If you are getting errors printed to the screen I assume you got past that point.

Kernel of 4.15 or 4.16 are supposed to have all the Ryzen and Threadripper fixes baked in so are the most compatible but even 4.10 kernels were supposed to mostly compatible.

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It is also easiest (and safer) to pull the SATA cables from your Windows drives during the initial install.

I have found it easiest to download the ISO file and burn it to DVD - works every time.

The scrolling list was probably the boot sequence, but that should disappear fast, unless it freeze up.

Mint and Ubuntu, by the looks of it, it could have been the boot sequence but it was freezing and that was that.

I had a quick look around after I last posted and found an earlier release of mint that I had burnt and tried out on a laptop - due to other problems I had given up on playing around with that.{1}

I have now installed Mint 17.2 and am looking at updating it to 18.3.

How important is the swap partition to Linux? got sort of lost in the disk install and did not install a swap partition on primary drive but have 32 GB installed.

Is it better to install a separate hdd for Linux {2} or is it possible to use some of the available space in the windows accessible drives.


{1} Lack of time due to family commitments and networking problems with laptop under mint.

{2} For files, pictures pdf's etc. not OS files.

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Kevin

For any system with more than 4GB of memory, you can just skip the swap partition. On the latest Ubuntu 18.04 release, they just dropped the swap partition and went with a swap file like in Windows. My swap file is 0GB with 16GB of physical memory. I would say a token 8GB swap partition is fine for you or just forget it with your 32GB of memory.

I have done both. Resized a Windows partition to make a new one for Linux OS install and have installed to a separate disk just for Linux. My last installs were just to my original Windows 7 disks as I dumped Windows and will never look back. All my pictures and documents were on other drives which I just mounted in Linux for access.

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OK, won't worry about swap partition for now, I usually only use boot drives for OS's and program files, like to keep data separate - so much easier for backing up etc. I have a couple of drive bays already wired up to drive backplanes and spare drives available.

Am just starting to look around and try to find where they hide everything and what I need to do to access features and what new programs are available.

When or if I feel happy with Linux, I might try out a few flavors first, I will then start looking at installing SETI, until then I will leave her running in W10 when I am not using it.

Got to get my scanners - printers setup, got a lot of older negatives and slides to copy to digital, some of them taken a long time ago.

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Kevin

Will be interesting to hear what you think of Mint. Both Juan and myself tried it at first but had issues with Mint and BOINC. So that is why we ended up on Ubuntu. I have no issues with Ubuntu Unity desktop manager. Now Gnome desktop manager with 18.04 has a lot of features that the manager in Mint has and what was supposed to be familiar about MInt that was supposed to make it attractive to a newcomer coming from Windows.

I would agree with your looking around in Linux to get familiar with it. Then ask us how to get BOINC installed. I think the easiest way is with the packages that Tbar has made and are available over on the Crunchers Anonymous website. Really those are plug and play if you just follow the simple instructions included in the readme files in the packages.

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I would agree with your looking around in Linux to get familiar with it.

I prefer to be in control rather than just being allowed to play with what someone else thinks I may be safe to use, its the lack of control over certain parts of W10 that I do not like.

To be honest its going the same way with the vehicles that I drive for a living, most of the controls go through a computer (accelerator) or are removed from user control (gearboxes). A few more years and I will be retiring so will not have to worry about that.

Its just finding the time to play and explore when I have not got other things to distract me.

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Kevin

Not had a lot of good free time this week, to busy before work and the driving that I do can be very mentally tiring.

Yesterday I had a number of attempts to install Linux from a variety of sources and had a number of failures. for some reason Mint keeps freezing on the install both from disc and usb drive, Ubuntu installed up to the point of disk manager? so would run but not restart.

Burnt another Ubuntu (18.04) disk and that installed and is now running.

Nvidia drivers installed and desktop changed to Mate, I did not like the Gnome desktop.

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Kevin

How do you set up Boinc?

Please remember I am a Linux newbee.

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Kevin

You need to get BOINC from Crunchers Anonymous. I would recommend either the 7.4.44 or 7.8.3 versions that TBar has made. You will need to get the p7zip package to have the Package Manager know how to unpack 7zip files. Get it with a apt-get install or use the Synaptic Package Manager. I would recommend getting the Package Manager first. You can get it with the Software Store app or just with a apt-get Synaptic install.

BOINC All-In-One Build to run zi3v CUDA 8.0 in Ubuntu 12.04 to 17.04
The package is comprised of the three zip files that you downloaded. Double click the BOINC.7z.001 package and the Archive Manager will unpack all three component zips and create the BOINC directory on your Desktop.

That version has the tasks on board limit set to 3000. The all in one package has both the MB and AP apps included along with the pre-configured app_info. You will still need to write your own app_config and cc_config xml files if you want customized versions. You can also edit the AP command line file to adjust for optimized running of the AP apps according the capability of your cards. I would add the <cmdline>-nobs</cmdline> option to your app_config so that the CUDA app will use all of the cpu core. That package has the zi3v CUDA 8.0 special app by Petri in it.

The BOINC 7.8.3 version is here
That version has the more modern menus but also the standard 1000 task limit of the traditional BOINC versions. TBar fixed some long outstanding bugs in the BOINC code in that version.

The CUDA 9.0 special app is here

Same zi3v app but with the CUDA 9 libraries included unlike the CUDA 8 libraries that you have to manually download in the CUDA 8 all in one package. Just do what the readme says. You will need to just copy the CUDA 9 zi3v app and the CUDA 9 dlls and the rest of the package files to the setiathome project directory.

Just read the readme files for the BOINC all in one package that TBar included. Main thing is to check or change the 5 main BOINC scripts to execute by setting their permission bits by right-clicking the files.

Next you need to check the dependencies that may be missing for BOINC. I've always had to add the libwebkitgtk-1.0 package along with usually the libcurl and one other I can't remember before BOINC will run.

This is the trick to determine the missing dependencies. First, open the Terminal along with the BOINC directory that is on you Desktop in the File Manager. In the terminal type

ldd <space>

That is ldd and a space. Now click on the boincmgr file in the File Manager and drag and drop it into the Terminal window. Click on the Terminal window to get focus and hit Enter. That will print out all the dependencies that boincmgr needs to run. At the top of the list will be any missing dependencies, probably 1 or 2. Make note of the names and then either do a apt-get install of the package name or use the Synaptic Package Manager to get and install the missing packages. After the packages are installed do a repeat of the ldd command and see if the missing dependencies have cleared.

Now do the same thing with the Client program boinc. Check the dependencies and download and install any missing packages. That is all I have ever needed to get BOINC installed. Download the all in one package, check the execute bits and install the missing dependencies.

The next thing to do is get the Nvidia driver. The easiest way is to add the graphics-driver ppa to the Software sources.
Open the Terminal again and type:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
sudo apt-get update

Once the ppa is added to your Software Sources in the Software & Updates app, go to the Additional Drivers tab and select the Nvidia -driver open source 396 meta package. Select and install it. It will grab the main Nvidia driver and the OpenCL and CUDA compute packages along with the nvidia-settings app. After all are installed and the kernel is updated with the Nvidia graphics driver, reboot the system to use the driver.

Next open the BOINC Manager by double clicking the boincmgr file in the BOINC directory on the Desktop. That will open the Manager and start the client. You should look at the Event log to check the startup and verify the CUDA and OpenCL drivers are loaded and the cards are detected. BOINC may open in the Simple View but change it to the Advanced View and add the Seti@home project. Login with your established credentials for the Windows system. BOINC will download its usual files and get work since the project directory is already loaded with SETI and apps are already installed with the app_info.

That will get you up and running with the special app with either the default package CUDA 8 app or the additional CUDA 9 app you dropped into the directory. If any questions or problems post back here.

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I have re-installed Ubuntu with Gnome, boot manager has also installed properly.

Synaptic package manager installed

p7zip installed I think?

will update you as I go.

Thank You

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Kevin

Having trouble getting libcurl.so.4

It is listed as not found when I ldd boinc file.

If I search for libcurl on synaptic I find 45 packages but when i search for libcurl.so.4 I get 0

If I sudo apt-get install on just libcurl I get unable to locate package and when done with libcurl.so.4 I get the same.

Any idea's?

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Kevin

Found it, its in libcurl3 now installed.

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Kevin

Found it, its in libcurl3 now installed.

Yes, that is the right one. I get the same thing and the libcurl3 library is the one you want.

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I have re-installed Ubuntu with Gnome, boot manager has also installed properly.

Synaptic package manager installed

p7zip installed I think?

will update you as I go.

Thank You

Previously you stated you changed from Gnome desktop manager to Mate. What made you change back?

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