The Democrats are unwilling to increase necessary spending and Trump is...

Trump is the one saying the increased amount is necessary, last fall's blue wave in the house said it's not. The people have spoken and Trump chooses to disregard their will.

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What necessary spending?

It's not his money, so he couldn't care less.

But I always thought that Trump was the master of negotiations.
He has even written a book about it:)
However it's true that the Dems are very stubborn.
Most likely it's more cheaper to agree to Trump's Wall budget than facing a longer shutdown.
Trump will then of course say "Mission Accomplished" and that the immigration problem is solved...

But this is Trump's shutdown, so why should Dems feel they are responsible for those not getting paid etc. and give in to his unreasonable, and unwanted by the majority, demands?

Hummm Big Don Rump's tax, 1 billion dollars a day for every day Rump keeps the government closed. Rump's tax payment will just about wipe out the deficit.

But this is Trump's shutdown, so why should Dems feel they are responsible for those not getting paid etc. and give in to his unreasonable, and unwanted by the majority, demands?

The US national defense budget is this year $716 billion and $700 billion last year.
Trump's proposal for the Wall is 5 billion and the Dem's is 1.3 billion.
Both proposals are less then 1% of that.
But I wonder why they cannot agree on 3.5 billion which is 0.5% of the national defense budget.
Whatever. The Wall itself will not stop criminals and drug flowing into the US.

But this is Trump's shutdown, so why should Dems feel they are responsible for those not getting paid etc. and give in to his unreasonable, and unwanted by the majority, demands?

The US national defense budget is this year $716 billion and $700 billion last year.
Trump's proposal for the Wall is 5 billion and the Dem's is 1.3 billion.
Both proposals are less then 1% of that.
But I wonder why they cannot agree on 3.5 billion which is 0.5% of the national defense budget.
Whatever. The Wall itself will not stop criminals and drug flowing into the US.

The few drugs that get through the border, come through tunnels.
As Trump pushes for a wall, authorities keep finding drug tunnels under the U.S.-Mexico border

The president has argued that building physical barriers would stave off illegal immigration and drug trafficking into the United States. But experts say these tunnels reaffirm a reality at the southern border: Drugs are trafficked into the country through multiple channels, including underground. A physical barrier, whether it’s fencing, steel slats or a concrete wall, would keep out people who are willing to play by the rules. But for those who aren’t or can’t afford to, walls are mere temporary inconveniences, said David Shirk, an international relations professor at the University of San Diego.

The Quinnipiac poll that seems to be getting a lot of mentions in the news, is a good read.

American voters are negative in every question about the wall, saying:

59 - 40 percent that it is not a good use of taxpayer dollars;
55 - 43 percent that the wall would not make the U.S. safer;
59 - 40 percent that the wall is not necessary to protect the border;
52 percent say the wall is against American values as 41 percent say the wall is consistent with American values.

There is a security crisis along the Mexican border, American voters say 54 - 43 percent, and voters say 68 - 26 percent there is a humanitarian crisis.

To a different degree, I blame both sides.

Don't forget that this shutdown didn't start now. It started on Dec. 22nd, when the Republican president couldn't get the Republican Senate or Republican House to pass the spending bill with wall funding in it. The Republicans had all three, yet this is somehow now the Democrats' doing? And it's strange that Mr. Trump had two years to pass this prior, but it only was introduced just after the Democrats won the House majority (but not before they were actually in place.)

Trump also said, himself, that he would take the blame for the shutdown.

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The few drugs that get through the border, come through tunnels.
As Trump pushes for a wall, authorities keep finding drug tunnels under the U.S.-Mexico border

Uh, no ... they come across at legal points of entry ...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/us/drug-traffickers-el-chapo-trial-drugs-across-border/index.html

Most drugs are smuggled into the United States onboard fishing boats, trains, tractor-trailers and ordinary cars that come into the country at legal ports of entry, according to former cartel members who've testified in the trial of notorious cartel leader Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman.

Uh, no ... they come across at legal points of entry ...

Yes. And by air and see.
For instance.
U.S. DEA: Border Wall or No, Drone Drug Smuggling Likely to Increase
https://www.rotorandwing.com/2019/01/10/u-s-dea-border-wall-no-drone-drug-smuggling-likely-increase/
But maybe Trump doesn't know what DEA is.

needed to significantly decrease the amount of drugs and persons illegally entering.

The thing is that a wall, or a tall spiked fence, is not going to decrease either drugs or people entering the US.
As Gary correctly stated, most drugs are smuggled in through the ports of entry, and at this moment in time, the numbers of single males, they are most likely to be the criminals, entering has decreased significantly. The increase in numbers are families, in the main they aren't illegals, they are refugee's fleeing corrupt countries south of Mexico. If there is any emergency at the southern border it is a humanitarian one. Processing them through the courts and declaring they are illegal entrants is not the way to solve the problem, especially when the birth rate in the US is about 700k/year lower than needed to maintain the population and your lifestyle.

ROFLMAO.

Isolated in Berlin

Hmm, should another airlift be organised?

Time to build the border Wall.
When you claimed to be an expert in building walls on your resumé and now half the nation is expecting you to build one.

SHAME SHAME SHAME

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/16/exclusive-angel-moms-on-storming-pelosis-office-she-couldnt-even-fake-acknowledge-our-loved-ones

SUPER SHAME SHAME SHAME

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/16/nbc-cnn-secret-service-dhs-reject-nancy-pelosis-security-excuse-for-canceling-state-of-the-union

RUBEWorld ROFTLOFAO!!!!!

OH OH OH So ORANGE So YAPe

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Just idly wandering about the web, while watching BBC News at 10 with one eye and ear, and came across the latest from Rasmussen. Trumps favourite poll site has -14 approval rating, down 7 this year.

Oh

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Wishing Trump had the same concerns regarding those innocent Federal Workers facing economic destruction.

Wishing Schumer and Pelosi had the same concerns regarding those innocent Federal Workers facing economic destruction.

Works both ways. Both sides are to blame but it would appear a total unwillingness to even talk about it is the Dim's only position.

As to SOME (definitely not all) of the Government services now shut down the two edged sword applies.......As you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone is true but so is..."what if no one notices" a service is not functioning, or that service even when furloughed still works well enough?

I think there were some very valid points in the Daily Caller oped.

And I see that monosyllabic noise is still being used as thread filler.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

If the Senate would act on the bills already passed by the house to reopen the government, then no matter the outcome of the vote, you could say both sides are to blame, however as long as a single white republican male refuses to allow the Senate to vote, all the blame is Republican.
Why doesn't the single white republican male just call a vote and have it shot down? Because it wouldn't be shot down, it would pass and then all the blame would be on Rump when he vetoes! Or if it was shot down, all the blame would be on the Republicans. He can't allow that as then the truth couldn't be hidden and the Russians couldn't spread their faux narrative that both sides are in some way at fault.