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![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11444 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 ![]() ![]() |
I would not agree with statement at all ..... not in a month of Sundays. Einstein sends WAY TOO WORK when requested since its estimate of how much work requested is completely out to lunch. I have to abort 2/3 of the tasks it sends me at every request. That's Boinc averaging Cpu run times with GPU run times. Since Einstein ran out of gravity waves a couple of weeks ago and I now run only seti on the CPUs there is no problem. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
I've never run cpu tasks at either Milkyway or Einstein. Just Seti ..... just recently as an experiment I ran some cpu tasks at GPUGrid.net. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1858 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 ![]() ![]() |
The worst offender is Einstein which still uses DCF and DOESN'T use APR. I would agree ... ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11444 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 ![]() ![]() |
I don't know what you guys are doing, the time estimates on both of my boxes with GTX1060s are very accurate. I run 2 at a time and they process at the rate of 4 an hour, so they estimate 30 min a task. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I test ran some Einstein work and it bogged my rig down so far it became totally unusable for anything else. That was during the great SETI outage of '16 and I havn't tried it since. ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13882 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
I was pretty sure it wasn't just the credit calculation that needed the APR And running more than 1 WU at a time results in a significantly reduced APR value- even though you might be doing more work per hour. And rescheduling does all sorts of things to APR values. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13882 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
I don't know what you guys are doing, the time estimates on both of my boxes with GTX1060s are very accurate. I run 2 at a time and they process at the rate of 4 an hour, so they estimate 30 min a task. But you get deadline issues on the CPU tasks? Grant Darwin NT |
Stephen "Heretic" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 ![]() ![]() |
I still am unable to keep my cache filled on the Linux machine. Down a hundred gpu tasks. Nothing but no work is available messages upon work requests. . . Have you "kicked" the server? Stephen ?? |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
I kept threatening, mainly toggling preferences and the Triple Update. Haven't resorted to kicking server. Cache is full right now. Not going to do anything. Will have to see where I am at in the morning. Calling a night. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22651 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks Richard - I woke up in the "wee small hours" and thought "there's something else to do with APR" and you got to the keyboard before I did. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1858 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 ![]() ![]() |
I test ran some Einstein work and it bogged my rig down so far it became totally unusable for anything else. That was during the great SETI outage of '16 and I haven't tried it since. Just curious, was that CPU work, GPU work or a combination? Since I run Einstein only as filler for SETI, I set it up for GPU-only, as running the SETI CPU cache dry is not an issue for me. ![]() ![]() |
Stephen "Heretic" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 ![]() ![]() |
I kept threatening, mainly toggling preferences and the Triple Update. Haven't resorted to kicking server. Cache is full right now. Not going to do anything. Will have to see where I am at in the morning. Calling a night. . . I hope you got a good night's sleep :) Stephen :) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
I don't know what you guys are doing, the time estimates on both of my boxes with GTX1060s are very accurate. I run 2 at a time and they process at the rate of 4 an hour, so they estimate 30 min a task. I was running my R9 390x 24/7 on it for a few months until I rotated to Milkyway. The only work fetch issue I had was not filling my 5+5 day cache queue. I was only getting ~8 days worth of tasks. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Just curious, was that CPU work, GPU work or a combination?It was a combination. It crashed everything so bad, I just stopped the requests and let the cache run dry. Haven't messed with it since as SETI has been 'Steady'..... ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
juan BFP ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 ![]() ![]() |
Just curious, was that CPU work, GPU work or a combination?It was a combination. It crashed everything so bad, I just stopped the requests and let the cache run dry. Haven't messed with it since as SETI has been 'Steady'..... I believe you have the same trouble some of us has in the past. Is the way the cache works when you run both projects. If you use the normal Seti WU days cache like 3 days in E@H E@ DL a lot of WU making our host "hostage" of than amount of WU's To fix run both projects and E@H as a backup project just put 0 (zero) as resource share on E@H settings. That will allow your host DL just 1 E@H WU at a time and crunch it but only when your Seti cache where dry. As soon as the Seti work where available it will return to fill your cache with Seti WU's and they will start as soons as the E@H ends to crunch or in 60 min (you could change that too). Hope that's help. ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
I kept threatening, mainly toggling preferences and the Triple Update. Haven't resorted to kicking server. Cache is full right now. Not going to do anything. Will have to see where I am at in the morning. Calling a night. Down about 80 tasks in the caches. Doesn't help that overnight, eventually all the machines sync up with their work requests timings. Never figured out why, something to do with BoincTasks monitoring and server set gpu backoffs or whatever. Triple update on all machines staggered by a minute got everyone full. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11444 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 ![]() ![]() |
I don't know what you guys are doing, the time estimates on both of my boxes with GTX1060s are very accurate. I run 2 at a time and they process at the rate of 4 an hour, so they estimate 30 min a task. I did because of the averaging of run times between the CPU and GPU. With no CPU work being done at Einstein, the Seti CPU work is not affected by the Einstein GPU work. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 ![]() ![]() |
The worst offender is Einstein which still uses DCF and DOESN'T use APR. As Juan pointed out, if you leave Einstein as a backup, it will only supply you enough to crunch at that moment when you ask for work, ie 1 work unit per card until you finished that work unit. However, if you use it as your main project, then you need to edit your preferences on how many days worth of work. For seti I have my days set gto 10 and 0.1 extra. However, when I make Einstein my main project, I change my cache to 0.1 day and 0.1 extra, that prevents huge amount from being downloaded. GPUGrid, doesn't matter how you set your preferences, you get 1 per card and 1 extra only. So you just have to figure out the best configuration for each project, oh, and if you forget to change 0.1 back to 10 when you move from Einstein to Seti, you figure it out quickly as you don't get the full allotment of 100 work units per GPU/CPU..... ![]() ![]() |
juan BFP ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 ![]() ![]() |
Just an additional info: If you put your resource share to 0 (zero) and you have more than 1 GPU it will DL 1 WU for each GPU. The same happening with CPU cores. If you have 4 available to crunch it will DL 4. At least that works with Seti & E@H, GPUGrid works in a totally different way as Zalster post. ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11444 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 ![]() ![]() |
However, when I make Einstein my main project, I change my cache to 0.1 day and 0.1 extra, that prevents huge amount from being downloaded +1 |
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