Fixated:

"unable to stop thinking about something"

"to command the attention of exclusively or repeatedly; preoccupy obsessively"

Neither sound healthy to me.

Just because someone is "not "fixated" upon the evils of Nazism, Communism, KKK, Radical Right and Left, et al."

In no way makes them enablers of evil.

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Your belief that the use of a Nazi Swastika, as an Avatar in these Threads, is not disgusting. Because of its "paltry 80 years" of evil. Is...
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Clyde,

If you knew your history as you claim to, you would know that the Swastika is much, much older than the Nazi use of it and it did NOT mean anything evil.

Siran

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

The swastika (as a character 卐 or 卍) is an ancient religious icon used in the Indian subcontinent, East Asia and Southeast Asia, where it has been and remains a sacred symbol of spiritual principles in Buddhism, Hinduism, and Jainism.[2][3][4][5] In the Western world, it was historically a symbol of auspiciousness and good luck,[6] but in the 1930s, it became the main feature of Nazi symbolism as an emblem of Aryan race identity, and as a result, it has become stigmatized in the West by association with ideas of racism, hate, and mass murder.[6][7]

The swastika is an icon widely found in human history and the modern world.[5][8] It is alternatively known in various European languages as the Hakenkreuz, gammadion cross, cross cramponnée, croix gammée, fylfot, or tetraskelion, and in Japan as the Manji. A swastika generally takes the form of a rotationally symmetrical arrangement (a cross) with four equally spaced legs of identical length each bent at 90 degrees in a uniform direction to create a pattern akin to a four-armed spiral.[9][10] It is found in the archeological remains of the Indus Valley Civilization and Mesopotamia, as well as in early Byzantine and Christian artwork.[5][8]

The name swastika comes from Sanskrit (Devanagari: स्वस्तिक), and denotes a "conducive to well being or auspicious".[11][8] In Hinduism, the clockwise symbol is called swastika symbolizing surya (sun) and prosperity, while the counterclockwise symbol is called sauvastika symbolizing night or tantric aspects of Kali.[8] In Jainism, a swastika is the symbol for Suparshvanatha – the 7th of 24 Tirthankaras (spiritual teachers and saviours), while in Buddhism it symbolizes the auspicious footprints of the Buddha.[8][12][13]

The swastika was adopted by several organizations in pre–World War I Europe and later, and most notably, by the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany prior to World War II. It was used by the Nazi Party to symbolize German nationalistic pride. To Jews and the enemies of Nazi Germany, it became a symbol of antisemitism and terror.[6] In many Western countries, the swastika is viewed as a symbol of racial supremacy and intimidation because of its association with Nazism.[7][14][15] The reverence for the swastika symbol, in some cultures in contrast to the stigma in others, has led to misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and mutual accusations.[16][17]

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ClydeNotClyde said:

Your belief that the use of a Nazi Swastika, as an Avatar in these Threads, is not disgusting. Because of its "paltry 80 years" of evil. Is...

I Counter-Point with: Mirror or Any Reflection Device is MORE EVIL than.....dA 'Swastika' or Any Other 'Symbol'.

Why? Sure 'You' Have Guessed.

Look 'at' dA 'Mirror' and 'See' - OURSELVES.

I and You and Them are dA MOST EVIL in History, Now, and Future. I, if not Directly, have Indirectly Caused; Perpetuated; Influenced; or Otherwise 'Flapped' 'My' 'Butterfly Wings' and EVIL Occured and Continues to Exist.

So, I'm gunna Find me a Nice PIc of A Mirror and use As An Avatar. And 'IT' Will Be MORE EVIL than dA Swastika or Name dAt 'Poison'.

Evil is Yap. Oh Yes IndEEdeee.

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If you knew your history as you claim to, you would know that the Swastika is much, much older than the Nazi use of it and it did NOT mean anything evil

Siran...

Then you disagree with my belief that the display of a Swastika as a Avatar in these Threads. Must be considered as Morally and Ethically Disgusting?

If you don't believe that it would be morally and ethically disgusting. Then you agree with Sirius B.

I don't.

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Clyde,

If the swastika was shown in a white circle on a red background as in the Nazi flag, I would have a problem with it. If, however, the swastika was shown in the myriad other non-"evil" ways, no, I would not have a problem with it.

Just because the Nazis used it for their Aryan ways does in no way make the swastika an "evil" symbol.

Learn your history dude... :|

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

BTW: The original "Fixated" accusation. Is a ridiculous accusation that to mention that certain Mass Murdering and Enslaving Evils. In this case, truthfully stating that both Nazism and Communism have been responsible for murdering and enslaving over one billion people in the last hundred years.

Must be understood as an attempt to deflect attention from their previous posts.

Cannot find anywhere on these boards where you have posted your gibberish about Nazism anyone that disagrees with that. In fact what is clearly seen is yourself being an enabler of evil by calling those who fought against Nazism enablers of evil. You can't have it both ways, one is either for or against. By blaming a whole nation you are for Nazism.

As for your country, Japan legally did not declare war on America, they just gave you a warning attack to stop your embargoes against them It was you that declared war on them, therefore you & your fellow countrymen are enablers of evil which after what you posted, are in no position to deny.

The same as the American Government, with their peoples acceptance. Purposefully burning alive Japanese children. In their Terror Bombing raids.

So it must be understood that your mind must be quite a cesspit.

If the swastika was shown in a white circle on a red background as in the Nazi flag, I would have a problem with it. If, however, the swastika was shown in the myriad other non-"evil" ways, no, I would not have a problem with it.

Just because the Nazis used it for their Aryan ways does in no way make the swastika an "evil" symbol.

Learn your history dude... :|

So Siran...

Please give me examples of the Modern Day Use of the Swastika. Let's just reference the last Paltry 80 years. Where it was not used as a Symbol of Hate and Murder?

Which Groups or Individuals, after the Nazi use, displayed the Swastika? Would you describe them as Non Nazis or the like.

If you cannot...

Dude, you are getting pathetic with this crap. Ok, here's one example of non-Nazi and non"Evil" uses of the swastika.

And, here's some history of the swastika.

As for modern day use, you look it up. Hitler stole the swastika and turned it into what you claim as "evil". The swastika symbol is NOT evil; the Nazis use of it is. Cut the rhetoric dude.

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

If the swastika was shown in a white circle on a red background as in the Nazi flag, I would have a problem with it. If, however, the swastika was shown in the myriad other non-"evil" ways, no, I would not have a problem with it.

Just because the Nazis used it for their Aryan ways does in no way make the swastika an "evil" symbol.

Learn your history dude... :|

So Siran...

Please give me examples of the Modern Day Use of the Swastika. Let's just reference the last Paltry 80 years. Where it was not used as a Symbol of Hate and Murder?

Which Groups or Individuals, after the Nazi use, displayed the Swastika? Would you describe them as Non Nazis or the like.

If you cannot...

I think he's got you from his BBC link, particularly in the pic of the Hindu boy. It's color, so more likely recent, way past WWII. Furthermore, given the centuries worth of Hindu use, he's probably using it as Hindu's intended, not how Hitler intended it.

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Methinks Siran and Sarge have exposed contemporary revisionist history.

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The Modern Day use of the Swastika. Is for evil.

What it was used for, prior to the Nazis. Cannot be used to dismiss, what is understood by those with a modicum of ethics and morality. To be a present day Symbol of Hate.

It is most educational regarding the true beliefs of some. That it is those on the Left of the Ideological Spectrum. Who are the only ones that are in denial of that fact.

Siran, who now calls anyone speaking against using this Modern Day Symbol of Hate as an Avatar in these Threads. "Dude, you are getting pathetic with this crap."

No Siran, Sarge and Sirius B... I will continue to enjoy the self inflicted destruction of your beliefs.

Just a Note: The attribution that Siran uses to show that the Swastika was used in the West after The Nazi's for non evil reasons.

IS FALSE. The examples are all prior to WW2. Excepting the fellow who tattooed his body with Swastika's.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

Repeating my question:

Siran...

Please give me examples of the Modern Day Use of the Swastika. Let's just reference the last Paltry 80 years. Where it was not used as a Symbol of Hate and Murder?

Which Groups or Individuals, after the Nazi use, displayed the Swastika? Would you describe them as Non Nazis or the like.

Just a Note: The attribution that Siran uses to show that the Swastika was used in the West after The Nazi's for non evil reasons.

IS FALSE. The examples are all prior to WW2. Excepting the fellow who tattooed his body with Swastika's.

Note to all: CLYDE is saying the exception the fellow with the painted head (tattooed body?). That it is modern. So, on that, we agree. Where we disagree seems to be is that the Hindu boy ... CLYDE believes what? The Hindu boy is an evil Nazi???

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From Christianity Today. Related or not? When did the cross supplant the ichthus (fish) as a symbol of the Christian faith?.

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On an even more serious note:

The same as the American Government, with their peoples acceptance. Purposefully burning alive Japanese children. In their Terror Bombing raids.

If you truly believe that, then you yourself were an enabler of evil by serving 2 tours in a country you had no right to be in.

However, if you believe that you had the right to be there to prevent the spread of communism, then surely the American Government & the people's acceptance that they had the right to defeat an enemy that attacked them.

You really do need to stop visiting confused.com :-)

What If a Group or Person Wanted To Use a Swastika for LOVE, PEACE, CARING, and ALL OTHER GOoDness? And This Group or Person has a Long Reputation and Credibility as Such? And Would Continue till The END OF DA WORLD with LOVE, PEACE, CARING, and ALL OTHER GOoDness?

I Would Say, GO FO IT.

When Asked Why? They Would Say: Thousands of Years dA Swastika Symbolism Represented LOVE, PEACE, CARING, and ALL OTHER GOoDness, and We, dA Group or Person, WANT TO BRING BACK ITs TRUE MEANING.

Hey, SOUNDS GOoD to Me.

My BELIEF is Why Give SUCH POWER of HATE to a Few Straight Lines and a Few 90 Degree Angles and One Intersect of Lines?

GOoD Swastika LOVING Yap

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Note to all: CLYDE is saying the exception the fellow with the painted head (tattooed body?). That it is modern. So, on that, we agree. Where we disagree seems to be is that the Hindu boy ... CLYDE believes what? The Hindu boy is an evil Nazi???

Note to all.

Sarge, who also doesn't wish "ill" to a murdering and enslaving Dictator. Believes one, who tattoos Swastikas. Reduced the Evil of the use of a Present Day Symbol of Evil.

The moral and ethical self destruction of those attacking this poster. Is wonderful to behold. And a necessary confirmation of what I have been posting.

ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE:

Let's Pray for, and Hope for the best. For the people of Texas.

Note to all:

CLYDE has, unsurprisingly, dug up what I expected him to but misrepresented it. Dig up the exact quote if you must, we all know the spirit of that was "Castro's gone, good luck Cuba".

You are not being attacked by me. Over and over and over I and we in general have attempted to understand exactly what you are trying to say.

But you have now attacked me.

Worse, by the way you've worded this, you make it seem that your attack on me is less serious. So, the murderous Hitler is lower on the totem pole than an inhuman hurricane? This has gone beyond ridiculous. There is no point to it, anymore.

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That it is modern. So, on that, we agree. Where we disagree seems to be is that the Hindu boy ... CLYDE believes what? The Hindu boy is an evil Nazi???

You said all who use the swastika today are evil. Your brush is disgustingly wide. How did you get away with that in a classroom?

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Sorry Sirius B...

Your immoral, unethical, "baby killer" type personal attacks have become disgusting.

Your denial of truth to disguise what is really inside of you. Is...

Just the truth of the American Fire Bombing Terror Raids. Which targeted Japanese Civilians.

Operation Meetinghouse:

On the night of 9–10 March, 1945 ("Operation Meetinghouse"),[12] 334 B-29s took off to raid with 279 of them dropping 1,665 tons of bombs on Tokyo. The bombs were mostly the 500-pound (230 kg) E-46 cluster bomb which released 38 napalm-carrying M-69 incendiary bomblets at an altitude of 2,000–2,500 ft (610–760 m). The M-69s punched through thin roofing material or landed on the ground; in either case they ignited 3–5 seconds later, throwing out a jet of flaming napalm globs. A lesser number of M-47 incendiaries was also dropped: the M-47 was a 100-pound (45 kg) jelled-gasoline and white phosphorus bomb which ignited upon impact. In the first two hours of the raid, 226 of the attacking aircraft unloaded their bombs to overwhelm the city's fire defenses.[13] The first B-29s to arrive dropped bombs in a large X pattern centered in Tokyo's densely populated working class district near the docks in both Koto and Chuo city wards on the water; later aircraft simply aimed near this flaming X. The individual fires caused by the bombs joined to create a general conflagration, which would have been classified as a firestorm but for prevailing winds gusting at 17 to 28 mph (27 to 45 km/h).[14] Approximately 15.8 square miles (4,090 ha) of the city were destroyed and some 100,000 people are estimated to have died

These, Targeted Against Civilians, Fire Bomb Raids. Were repeated against other Cities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo

Just one of many British Terror Bombings. Targeting the Civilian Population, including Children.

July 1943 British Terror Bombing of Civilians in Hamburg

Operation Gomorrah:

Three nights later, just after midnight, the bombers returned. What was to follow was immeasurably worse. The RAF’s target was the city’s overcrowded working-class districts, Hammerbrook, Hamm and Borgfelde, to which many of those who had lost their homes in the previous bombardment had fled. Unusually warm weather and heavy loads of incendiaries combined to create a hurricane-like firestorm. In the face of temperatures of 800˚C, ‘every human resistance was quite useless,’ Hamburg’s chief of police later wrote. People jumped into canals and waterways, swimming or standing for hours; many were asphyxiated in bomb shelters as the fires raging in the streets devoured every trace of oxygen.

It resulted in the death of 42,600 people.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/

Just need to add a following statement of yours to make your post complete for an appropriate response:

But unlike you I do wish personal "ill" including an Eternity in Hell For Murdering and Enslaving Dictators.

You blather on about Nazism & Communism & how they have murdered & enslaved a billion, yet at the same time labelled those who fought against those ideologies as enablers of evil.

Using the very logic you display in your post, aren't you an enabler of evil in your participation to halt the spread of communism in South East Asia - How many Vietnamese villagers did you bump off as there is no way in hell they were all Viet Cong.

From January 1st 1900 to December 31st 1999 how many innocents been murdered by American enablers of evil?

Going back to the events you are referring to, it seems as a history teacher albeit a retired one, you cannot comprehend 3 little words in English - World at War.

On an even more serious note:

The same as the American Government, with their peoples acceptance. Purposefully burning alive Japanese children. In their Terror Bombing raids.

If you truly believe that, then you yourself were an enabler of evil by serving 2 tours in a country you had no right to be in.

However, if you believe that you had the right to be there to prevent the spread of communism, then surely the American Government & the people's acceptance that they had the right to defeat an enemy that attacked them.

You really do need to stop visiting confused.com :-)

Sorry Sirius B...

Your immoral, unethical, "baby killer" type personal attacks have become disgusting.

Your denial of truth to disguise what is really inside of you. Is...

Just the truth of the American Fire Bombing Terror Raids. Which targeted Japanese Civilians.

Operation Meetinghouse:

On the night of 9–10 March, 1945 ("Operation Meetinghouse"),[12] 334 B-29s took off to raid with 279 of them dropping 1,665 tons of bombs on Tokyo. The bombs were mostly the 500-pound (230 kg) E-46 cluster bomb which released 38 napalm-carrying M-69 incendiary bomblets at an altitude of 2,000–2,500 ft (610–760 m). The M-69s punched through thin roofing material or landed on the ground; in either case they ignited 3–5 seconds later, throwing out a jet of flaming napalm globs. A lesser number of M-47 incendiaries was also dropped: the M-47 was a 100-pound (45 kg) jelled-gasoline and white phosphorus bomb which ignited upon impact. In the first two hours of the raid, 226 of the attacking aircraft unloaded their bombs to overwhelm the city's fire defenses.[13] The first B-29s to arrive dropped bombs in a large X pattern centered in Tokyo's densely populated working class district near the docks in both Koto and Chuo city wards on the water; later aircraft simply aimed near this flaming X. The individual fires caused by the bombs joined to create a general conflagration, which would have been classified as a firestorm but for prevailing winds gusting at 17 to 28 mph (27 to 45 km/h).[14] Approximately 15.8 square miles (4,090 ha) of the city were destroyed and some 100,000 people are estimated to have died

These, Targeted Against Civilians, Fire Bomb Raids. Were repeated against other Cities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo

Just one of many British Terror Bombings. Targeting the Civilian Population, including Children.

July 1943 British Terror Bombing of Civilians in Hamburg

Operation Gomorrah:

Three nights later, just after midnight, the bombers returned. What was to follow was immeasurably worse. The RAF’s target was the city’s overcrowded working-class districts, Hammerbrook, Hamm and Borgfelde, to which many of those who had lost their homes in the previous bombardment had fled. Unusually warm weather and heavy loads of incendiaries combined to create a hurricane-like firestorm. In the face of temperatures of 800˚C, ‘every human resistance was quite useless,’ Hamburg’s chief of police later wrote. People jumped into canals and waterways, swimming or standing for hours; many were asphyxiated in bomb shelters as the fires raging in the streets devoured every trace of oxygen.

It resulted in the death of 42,600 people.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/the-carpet-bombing-of-hamburg-killed-40000-people-it-also-did-good/

Special broad brush - Mind the Gaps!

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Note to all: CLYDE is saying the exception the fellow with the painted head (tattooed body?). That it is modern. So, on that, we agree. Where we disagree seems to be is that the Hindu boy ... CLYDE believes what? The Hindu boy is an evil Nazi???

Note to all.

Sarge, who also doesn't wish "ill" to a murdering and enslaving Dictator. Believes one, who tattoos Swastikas. Reduced the Evil of the use of a Present Day Symbol of Evil.

The moral and ethical self destruction of those attacking this poster. Is wonderful to behold. And a necessary confirmation of what I have been posting.

ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE:

Let's Pray for, and Hope for the best. For the people of Texas.

Note to all:

CLYDE has, unsurprisingly, dug up what I expected him to but misrepresented it. Dig up the exact quote if you must, we all know the spirit of that was "Castro's gone, good luck Cuba".

You are not being attacked by me. Over and over and over I and we in general have attempted to understand exactly what you are trying to say.

But you have now attacked me.

Worse, by the way you've worded this, you make it seem that your attack on me is less serious. So, the murderous Hitler is lower on the totem pole than an inhuman hurricane? This has gone beyond ridiculous. There is no point to it, anymore.

We have condemned the actions of neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
45 and some here have equivocated on it.
And they think we’re the ones squirming when we discuss the symbol? We condemn the actions!!!
Squirming? Gimme a break.

P.S.-an atheist would not be praying for Texas. An atheist will keep texas in the MIND and, if and when possible, depending on the damage, send money or make a trip to help rebuild. (Inclusive "or".)

An atheist would not be wishing for Hell for a murderous dictator, because an atheist doesn't BELIEVE in Hell. (Hence, the lack of wishing for further ill. It's done, over. The dictator is dead and gone.)

Bye!

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Repeating my question:

Siran...

Please give me examples of the Modern Day Use of the Swastika. Let's just reference the last Paltry 80 years. Where it was not used as a Symbol of Hate and Murder?

Which Groups or Individuals, after the Nazi use, displayed the Swastika? Would you describe them as Non Nazis or the like.

Clyde,

Go to India and tell them that their use of the swastika is a symbol of "HATE and MURDER" and is "evil" and I'm sure, at the very least, you will be deported.

The swastika is NOT "evil" and is NOT a symbol of "HATE and MURDER". The use of the swastika symbol by the Nazis was and still is evil; the symbol itself is NOT. Get over yourself dude!

Why do you think you are the only one saying what you are and everyone else is trying to convince you of your error?

Siran

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I think he's got you from his BBC link, particularly in the pic of the Hindu boy. It's color, so more likely recent, way past WWII. Furthermore, given the centuries worth of Hindu use, he's probably using it as Hindu's intended, not how Hitler intended it.

That's two different symbols.
The Swastika is a sun symbol (Hindu boy) and imitates the sun's race over the sky while the Sauwastika (the vase most likely pre WWII) symbolizes the night and forces associated with darkness, sometimes with the terrifying goddess Kali.
But how many in the Western world knows that?
I would say very few. Maybe there are some more in Britain.

No. The Nazi Swastika is considered very evil in the Western world unless you are a neo-nazi.
The Swastika is not directly a forbidden symbol but when it's used in a "political" way you probably will be prosecuted for Hate speech.
I wonder if this is OK...