Thanks for the update Rob. It looks like we have almost the same systems with regard to hardware. I looked at your 1700 system and then your 970s system to try and extrapolate where the triple 970s are going to fall out on RAC with the special app. Should make another impressive bump in my RAC. My RAC is still climbing after the addition of the 1060 to the 1700X system but I believe is flattening out now.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Hey Al, I found this:

I've often installed multiple desktop environments simultaneously and there are no issues whatsoever. Each desktop environment keeps its own settings in its own folder within home. Switching between KDE and Cinnamon (or LMDE, XFCE, etc.) is fairly trivial in my opinion. Simply open a terminal and enter:

CODE: SELECT ALL
sudo apt-get install cinnamon

When it's finished installing, log out and then choose 'Cinnamon' as your session. Viola. Setup Cinnamon as you prefer (taskbar locations, desktop icons, themes, etc.) and it will remain that way even if you switch back and forth between Cinnamon and KDE.

Ohh that just sounds WAY to easy :)

I wonder if that works in Ubuntu :D

EDIT: You may want to follow these instructions too, if you want to permanently change to Cinnamon. how-to-change-mint-kde-to-cinnamon-edition

Hey Brent, back at it. I tried the Code:select all, it said CODE:: command not found. I thought Hmph, and then went on to the sudo command, it worked and seemed to install a bunch of stuff. After that I did a logout, but the login screen didn't offer me any options that I could see about choosing the desktop environment. Was it there hiding in plain sight?

*edit* ended up following the suggested link to permanently change it, rebooted and it says cinnamon now. Looking at it, it's certainly a little different, but definitely not Windows. ;-)

Will take a 'little' futzing around to get my sea legs with this OS, that's for sure.

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THANK you. That was it, got it copied to the desktop, and got it configured to my account, immediately set it to NNT, but one thing I didn't figure out when I was installing the system initially, was how to name it what I wanted it to be named. Is that something that I can do at this stage of the game? Also, I am in the middle of the update manager running, so I will wait for the next step, I think Petris secret sauce, until they are all installed, there sure were a ton of them, I hope that was a wise thing to do?

*edit* do you know if the Cinnamon version is more 'windows like' than KDE? If so, any guesses as how to switch it, if it is even possible, without muffing everything I just did up?

*edit 2* just got done with the updates, it didn't even ask me to reboot. Amazing. So, following the instructions, I downloaded Petris file, extracted it, and tried putting it into the stated folder. When I was working my way down the dir tree, I get to root>var>lib>boinc-client, and see notices and projects, but when I click on either one, it just gives me a box with a red X and says The specified folder does not exist or was not readable. Even though it appears to be right there. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Well, still having the same issue copying any files into it, still says same error as before. I did go into console, and I believe I got super user rights because the text changed color after putting in that command, but changing dirs is eluding me right now. I thought it was the same as DOS, but it doesn't appear to use the same syntax? Besides, I would rather do it using the GUI file unzip/extraction tool if possible. I think my event log was mentioned, so here it is if it helps:

Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:36 PM CDT | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.31 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:36 PM CDT | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:36 PM CDT | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.32 librtmp/2.3
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:36 PM CDT | | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 6.1, 4039MB, 3996MB available, 2255 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 3 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 4 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1982MB, 1930MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 4039MB, 3996MB available, 2255 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 3 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 4 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1982MB, 1930MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Host name: al-desktop
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Processor: 24 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5690 @ 3.47GHz [Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 2]
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid dtherm arat
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | OS: Linux: 4.8.0-53-generic
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Memory: 47.10 GB physical, 47.99 GB virtual
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Disk: 410.34 GB total, 381.09 GB free
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 8303688; resource share 100
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 23:59:56)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | SETI@home | Computer location: home
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Reading preferences override file
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | Preferences:
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | max memory usage when active: 24113.85MB
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | max memory usage when idle: 45816.32MB
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 05:05:45 PM CDT | | gui_rpc_auth.cfg is empty - no GUI RPC password protection

I'd really love to finish this rig up tonite, and get it doing some serious crunching... Thanks, guys.

Dance, Linux, Dance! *pulls out the six shooters and takes aim at the feet...*

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Gaaaa! Found it, finally. Tried opening the directory with a different app, I think called Files, and it finally gave me the honest scoop about the issue, which I had a suspicion in the back of my mind it might be, after reading other newbs struggles with it as well. It said that Folder could not be displayed. You do not have PERMISSIONS necessary to view the contents of projects. So, trying to think outside the box, I was looking for a right click way to run the file manager as admin, but didn't see that. How does one just get god (root?) rights to Everything, using any program? I know, I know, security and all that... Huuuuh

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Cases just keep the heat in.

With a good air flow it keeps the hole system cool.

My Corsair 600T in conjunction with the Noctua D15 does a pretty nice job here with my Ryzen 1800X.

CPU full load at 51°C
Mobo at 31°C.
GPU R9 380 full load at 55°C.
Ambient temp 27°C atm.

. . I now have cooler envy :)

. . This rig is i5-660 with stock Intel cooler in Cooler Master HAF EVO case.

         CPU at half load            52 C
         Mobo                        30 C
         GPU0-GTX970 @ full load     61 C     Fan @ 75%
         GPU1-GTX970 @ full load     52 C     Fan @ 50%
         Ambient temp                15 C

Stephen

Gaaaa! Found it, finally. Tried opening the directory with a different app, I think called Files, and it finally gave me the honest scoop about the issue, which I had a suspicion in the back of my mind it might be, after reading other newbs struggles with it as well. It said that Folder could not be displayed. You do not have PERMISSIONS necessary to view the contents of projects. So, trying to think outside the box, I was looking for a right click way to run the file manager as admin, but didn't see that. How does one just get god (root?) rights to Everything, using any program? I know, I know, security and all that... Huuuuh

. . Someone suggested ...

sudo su

. . but I am not sure if that works or with which versions.

Stephen

??

I did that in the command/terminal window, which was what changed the text color in the window from greenish to reddish which I presume means Danger, you are now God on this machine (at least right here), don't *#^@ it up! But it appears to have no effect on anything outside that window the best I can tell. I'm getting that 'ol Linux feeling again...
*edit* I did find User Manager, and my account is set as an Admin, but not as God, apparently. And I can't find the button to check to change that in there, is it somewhere else?

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Cases just keep the heat in.

That's what Al says :) But if he gets many more computers he will have to start saying that about windows and doors :))

I tell ya, with these 2 computers in one room here, I'd say Yes, windows and doors would be great if it wasn't about 90+ and humid this week(month(s)). Roasty Toasty, but will appreciate it in less than 6 months!

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Al, for SuperUser access in 'Folders' [[Mint]] ... Right click on a Folder, and select "Open as Root' ... You will get a new window with full rights to everything :D

I did that in the command/terminal window, which was what changed the text color in the window from greenish to reddish which I presume means Danger, you are now God on this machine (at least right here), don't *#^@ it up! But it appears to have no effect on anything outside that window the best I can tell. I'm getting that 'ol Linux feeling again...
*edit* I did find User Manager, and my account is set as an Admin, but not as God, apparently. And I can't find the button to check to change that in there, is it somewhere else?

In Ubuntu when I want to fool around in the System Folder I open a Terminal window and enter, gksu nautilus
After you enter your Password a Window opens to the File Browser and Anything you do in that Window is as Root. In Ubuntu you would click on Computer in the sidebar and navigate where ever you desired and trash what ever you wished...as Root. I've been doing that a lot lately while building Dozens of copies of BOINC. My versions of BOINC work in My Home folder, where you don't Need Permissions to play with BOINC.

Went home to grab some dinner, but will be heading back in about an hour. So, if I am using that program that unzips the files from Petris compressed file, will I be able to extract them directly into that folder, or do I need to put them into some temporary folder in my home dir, and then using the method you mentioned above copy them into the one I really want them to go into? And _someone_ said this was going to be easy... lol ;-)

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Went home to grab some dinner, but will be heading back in about an hour. So, if I am using that program that unzips the files from Petris compressed file, will I be able to extract them directly into that folder, or do I need to put them into some temporary folder in my home dir, and then using the method you mentioned above copy them into the one I really want them to go into? And _someone_ said this was going to be easy... lol ;-)

. . My experience says Linux is never easy ... But I simply extract the files leaving the archive in the download directory and keep the file structure of the archive which puts them into a subfolder with the version name. I leave that there as a reference/backup and copy them into the working BOINC directory by first selecting the files I need to copy (and don't forget the cuda80 libraries) then right click and select copy (using the gksu nautilus method works well), then navigate to the destination directory and with the cursor in that window right click and select paste. The minimum files you need to copy are the CUDA app itself, appinfo.xml and the two CUDA80 libraries. If you intend to do astropulses then also the 4 or 5 files for that, it is probably best to move them there anyway since they are listed in the appinfo.xml.

. . Just keep reminding yourself that it will be worth it in the end ....

Stephen

:)

Thanks, I think I got it with the right click run the folder as Root. Extracted them to my home folder in the dir order they were in, rt clicked and did copy, then went to the seti folder, right clicked, and pasted the 8 files into it. did the same thing for the other 2 in that list that I had downloaded, and it appears everything is there. I did see in the instructions that I was supposed to assign those files to BOINC, but I don't know how to navigate to that dir to run that command in, I think this would be the last thing and then I will reboot and start up BOINC, and see what the event log says, and if it's agreed that all is good, I'll open the floodgates before the weekly outage in the morning.

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Well, rebooted, and as my rear USB3.0 ports on my MB weren't recognizing my stick when I put it in, I went into the BOIS to check things out, and the first thing I noticed was the date/time was off, set to tomorrow, so I fixed that, and everything USB3.0 was enabled, don't know whats up with that now, but don't really care as it still works on 2.0. So, rebooted, came up fine, went into BOINC to see what was up, and here is the event log. I presume the error 10-20 lines down about the time being ignored is because of what I did, but no idea why 4 of 5 GPU's are being not used/ignored. I think they were not used/ignored if I remember correctly the last time, but BOINC was barely installed, I figured when all the candy was added, everything would straighten itself out, but apparently not. Here it is:

Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:04 PM CDT | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.31 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:04 PM CDT | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:04 PM CDT | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.32 librtmp/2.3
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:04 PM CDT | | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 6.1, 4039MB, 3996MB available, 2255 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 3 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 4 (not used): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 1982MB, 1930MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 4039MB, 3996MB available, 2255 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 3 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1997MB, 1964MB available, 1828 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 4 (ignored by config): GeForce GTX 950 (driver version 375.66, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 1982MB, 1930MB available, 2158 GFLOPS peak)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | [error] bad value 1500342617.992110 of time stats last update; ignoring
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Host name: al-desktop
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Processor: 24 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5690 @ 3.47GHz [Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 2]
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid dtherm arat
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | OS: Linux: 4.8.0-53-generic
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Memory: 47.10 GB physical, 47.99 GB virtual
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Disk: 410.34 GB total, 380.81 GB free
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 8303688; resource share 100
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Apr-2013 23:59:56)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | SETI@home | Computer location: home
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Reading preferences override file
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | Preferences:
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | max memory usage when active: 24113.85MB
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | max memory usage when idle: 45816.32MB
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | gui_rpc_auth.cfg is empty - no GUI RPC password protection


So, no joy in mudville yet, want to get that fixed (and anything else obvious) before I turn it on. Whats next, any thoughts as to where to go from here?

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Hi Al,

My apologies for not making better instructions when I installed Mint. If I were smart (seldom am I) I should have deleted everything and re-installed writing down everything I did step by step.

If I remember right I placed the "special sauce" files on a USB stick from my windows computer.
I plugged the UBS into the Linux box and started up a command prompt.
I tried to cd into the following directory to copy the files but could not because of permission issues.
cd /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu

I believe I ran the following to give me root privileges. I could then see the directory and copy the files.
sudo su

The very last step was to change the permissions:
cd /var/lib/boinc-client/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu
chown boinc:boinc *

Let me know if this works for you. I'm away on business right now so I'm doing this from memory.

Cheers
Mark

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That did it for getting to the right folder, had to do the sudo su, and then after muffing up the spelling (apparently) a couple times, copied and pasted what you wrote, it worked like a champ. Thanks! (Linux uses / not \ I see...)

Now, about those ignored vid cards, any thoughts on those?

*edit*
Oh, and somewhat related to what I had mentioned last night, which is happening again. I started up BOINC to get the log info I pasted above, and a minute ago shut it down. I just started it up again, but it's sitting there like last night with the red dot in the taskbar icon, and it isn't attaching to the project. it's just sitting there. I am sure if I reboot it, it will come right up,. but I've never experienced this in Windows, so no idea what might be causing it.

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I have no idea why you are you seeing "CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1 (not used)" I've never had multiple GPUs before. Maybe somebody else has seen this before?

I'm sure it is but... is the network plugged in? Maybe BOINC can't find the mother ship and is giving you red dot. Is there anything listed in the Event Log?

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Yep, plugged in, and actually using this computer to post here. And same thing happened after reboot, BOINC came right back up again, and when I exited it again, it did the same thing, not connecting to client. Not sure if just logging out and back in as opposed to a full reboot would also clear it up, might try that later, but it was a late one last night, and I'm getting kinda beat, I will try to pick it up in the morning. Hopefully someone might have an idea as to what might need to be reconfigured to recognize all the cards, because in the windows version, there is something you need to put into the (I believe) app_info file to tell it to use all gpu's, it might be the same here but I am not going to mess with it now till I get some exact instructions, as I have now spent enough time fighting with this thing that I don't want to nerf it now and have to start all over.

Thanks for your assistance getting me this far, I would have just procrastinated more without the kick in the shorts, even if it didn't turn out to be _quite_ as easy as I had expected and hoped for. But, we're getting very close! Now if I can only fix it before the outage yesterday and get it loaded up to work them while the project is down...

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Linux will set your BIOS clock to GMT/UTC not a big deal unless you dual boot. There are work arounds for that if needed.
That's probably where this came from, you changed it again:
Mon 17 Jul 2017 03:54:13 PM CDT | | [error] bad value 1500342617.992110 of time stats last update; ignoring

GPUs ignored ....
added to cc_cofig options ... same as windows ...

    <options>
        <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
    </options>

Thanks, I will do that in the morning, and then hopefully load it up before the project goes down. Any suggestions where to look to keep the time local?

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