Provocation
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39750240

North Korea has test-fired a ballistic missile, the South Korean military has told Yonhap news agency.

It was not immediately clear how far the missile had travelled.

It was fired from a site in South Pyeongan province north of Pyongyang in the early hours of Saturday morning local time, South Korea's military chiefs of staff said.

They said the type of missile was not yet known.

There has been no word from North Korea.

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Provocation
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39750240

North Korea has test-fired a ballistic missile, the South Korean military has told Yonhap news agency.

It was not immediately clear how far the missile had travelled.

It was fired from a site in South Pyeongan province north of Pyongyang in the early hours of Saturday morning local time, South Korea's military chiefs of staff said.

They said the type of missile was not yet known.

There has been no word from North Korea.

Depends on what side of the fence your sitting !

To them there trying to defend themselves , to use he's a nut bent on destroying America however America is the country with it's troops on another country's soil ???

Dammed if we don't Dammed if we do ! , get rid of him ! .

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North Korea has demonstrated its practise of blowing up its missiles.
Falling debris might become symbol for failing regime.

Now that China is challenging the USA economically their monetary system is more susceptible to damage from counterfeiting. North Korea has successfully counterfeited billions of US $100 bills, which, by the way, is an act of war so maybe when they start making Chinese money or when China realises destabilizing the dollar is not in their best interest they will move to remove the current regime from North Korea.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Donald Trump says he does not rule out meeting the North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un, and the US president tells Bloomberg's news service that he would be "honored" to meet Kim Jong-Un.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-01/trump-says-he-d-meet-with-north-korea-s-kim-if-situation-s-right.

BTW: Before meeting with, let's say a Mass Murdering and Enslaving Stalin, by Roosevelt and Churchill. Only a Totally Insane Roosevelt or Churchill, wouldn't say 'nice things' about Evil Stalin.

Oh absolutely. Roosevelt & Churchill did a Clyde - Accepted the "lesser of two evils" - in other words Appeasement.

Giving a Dictator something he does not control. As with Chamberlain vs. Hitler. And comparing it with Roosevelt and Churchill vs. Stalin. Confirms your ignorance of these events.

No just confirms yours. Have you not stated many many times that the "lesser of two evils" is preferred?

Regardless of whatever angle you look at that, it is Appeasement. For an academic with morals & ethics to state otherwise, makes one wonder just what is being taught!

Sorry wrong again. Just like the Brits with the Middle East, the 38th parallel was established as the boundary between Soviet and American occupation zones.

Had the US just allowed the Soviets to have Korea, there would not have been issues with Ping Pong 1 & Ping Pong 2. IMHO there would have been no "cold war" either as the Soviets would have been too worried about China.

So rather than rubbish that opinion, why don't you as a historian provide your views on that.

Sorry wrong again. Just like the Brits with the Middle East, the 38th parallel was established as the boundary between Soviet and American occupation zones.

Had the US just allowed the Soviets to have Korea, there would not have been issues with Ping Pong 1 & Ping Pong 2. IMHO there would have been no "cold war" either as the Soviets would have been too worried about China.

So rather than rubbish that opinion, why don't you as a historian provide your views on that.

Best for that time.

Why?

Rumor has it that Deputy Dawg was seen out partying with Rodman and Kim on the weekend. :-O

Cheers.

I'm Hearing NOKO has a Couple EMP Satellites in Low Orbit.

No Wonder dA Left and Right upon Leaving dat Meeting were Quiet and Somber.

mO fO or Not? I say muv Fookin' mO fO.

A Year without Power?

We'd Be Eating Each Other.

Starvin' Yap

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

When China finally tires of the threats to it's own stability caused by their brother 'Fredo they will move swiftly and ruthlessly to remove him and establish a more or less client State, or possibly outright annexation.

When(and I believe sooner than most think), not if that occurs the wisest course the world could take is to allow it to happen, Eventual reunification could occur under that scenario as it did in Viet Nam.

Probably the best outcome in the long run with regards to human suffering/loss of life.

IMHO.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Eventual reunification could occur under that scenario as it did in Viet Nam.

But it's not the impoverished North that's going to assimilate the South.

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Could it be that China see's it in it's own interests to have a buffer, North Korea in this case, between itself and other countries that have an opposite Philosophy. Much like Russia likes to have a buffer, the Ukraine for instance, between itself and the NATO states.

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Eventual reunification could occur under that scenario as it did in Viet Nam.

But it's not the impoverished North that's going to assimilate the South.

Kim Jong-un is very rich.
His people are not.
Reunification between North and South is very much possible.

Could it be that China see's it in it's own interests to have a buffer, North Korea in this case, between itself and other countries that have an opposite Philosophy. Much like Russia likes to have a buffer, the Ukraine for instance, between itself and the NATO states.

That was the main reason why China invaded the north back then. I doubt very much if their position has changed that much over the years.

I doubt very much if their position has changed that much over the years.

In the 65 years since the 'cessation of hostilities' China has changed a great deal, not so much internally but rather with respect to it's relationship with the rest of the World. The current Hong Kong existence is an example of a China more open to different ways of life as long as it doesn't affect their internal systems and control. The NoKo's would still be a subjugated population but probably not starving to death while fat boy foams at the mouth and if a pseudo-open NoKo/SoKo border can be established with mutual industrial and trade zones the Chinese might feel more secure than they do now with the added advantage of trade with the powerful industrial base that SoKo has become.

Make no mistake, I sincerely believe that China wants to conquer and control the entire globe, but they will endeavor to do so through financial and trade tactics not military action that could bring irrevocable harm to their heartland. China, Russia, the USA and hopefully the rest of the SANE world realizes what the outcome would be of a Nuclear exchange and love their children enough not to contemplate such an action.

M. A. D.

Again, IMHO.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

That was the main reason why China invaded the north back then.

100% incorrect.

General MacArthur was advancing close to the Chinese border (Yalu River). General MacArthur dismissed repeated Chinese warnings. Then...

Which is what they did not want & knew that America would not stop so invaded. So in fact, you're wrong in stating I'm wrong.

That was the main reason why China invaded the north back then.

100% incorrect.

General MacArthur was advancing close to the Chinese border (Yalu River). General MacArthur dismissed repeated Chinese warnings. Then...

Which is what they did not want & knew that America would not stop so invaded. So in fact, you're wrong in stating I'm wrong.

You wrong, as usual. Regarding history.

China 'defended' themselves from a Foreign Enemy advancing upon their Country.

History 101.

So you're saying that North Korea is part of China? Really? What mapbook are you using?

I stated the Foreign Power was "advancing" upon the Chinese Border.

Could it be that China see's it in it's own interests to have a buffer, North Korea in this case, between itself and other countries that have an opposite Philosophy. Much like Russia likes to have a buffer, the Ukraine for instance, between itself and the NATO states.

That was the main reason why China invaded the north back then. I doubt very much if their position has changed that much over the years.

Thank you for agreeing with both Nick's & my posts.

If you still feel that is incorrect then you have to admit to this: - Hordes of Chinese invaded North Korea.