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Message 1842633 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 18:06:14 UTC

My problem machine is down in tasks again with "no work is available" messages again. Just set preferences to No, Yes, No and now am slowly getting 4 tasks at a time in download requests. Think all the similar reports in this thread indicate there is a real server configuration problem that needs to be addressed. As Bruce said, this is going to get old real fast if we have to constantly babysit machines.
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Message 1842638 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 18:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 1842633.  
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First thing this morning and i'm checking my cache; running down again. Change it to Yes, Yes, Yes and cache fills up in one hit. And once again it starts receiving new work as it returns completed work on each request, not every 5-20 or so requests. And the amount of work received is the same as the number of WUs reported.
Whether or not you do AP work shouldn't affect your ability to get v8 work.
Whether or not you accept work for other applications shouldn't affect your ability to get v8 work.
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Message 1842640 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 18:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 1842598.  
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The Haveland graphics have been fixed: https://setistats.haveland.com/

We are having a higher number of tasks out in the field, about 6 million instead of the normal 4.2 million. Also the results waiting to purge is almost 3 million when normal used to be about 2.2 million. So server has to work harder to keep up.

I remember someone mentioning a while back the number of their Pendings increasing. At the time mine were around their usual levels, but over the last couple of weeks they've grown a lot.
Usually they're double my in Progress numbers, now they're more than triple.
I was expecting with the return of Guppies the number would drop back down again. No sign of that happening.
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Message 1842643 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 18:49:36 UTC
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Still no problems here with cache. Pendings are up a bit, but within usual levels.
In progress (2600) · Validation pending (5224) · Validation inconclusive (116) · Valid (3870) · Invalid (0) · Error (0)

Although I am sure he is aware of and working on the scheduler bug, I sent Eric another reminder message on it.
I suggested that it might help if he would change the checkbox for 'accept work from other applications' from a simple 'Yes' to 'Hell, Yes'.........................LOL.

Meow.

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And Eric replied already.
He has not figured the problem out just yet, and hopes he can get back to working on it Thursday or so.
SOOOOOOOOOOO.....
Those of you having problems are going to have to do your best with workarounds until 'at least' the end of the week.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1842645 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 19:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 1842640.  
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The Haveland graphics have been fixed: https://setistats.haveland.com/

We are having a higher number of tasks out in the field, about 6 million instead of the normal 4.2 million. Also the results waiting to purge is almost 3 million when normal used to be about 2.2 million. So server has to work harder to keep up.

I remember someone mentioning a while back the number of their Pendings increasing. At the time mine were around their usual levels, but over the last couple of weeks they've grown a lot.
Usually they're double my in Progress numbers, now they're more than triple.
I was expecting with the return of Guppies the number would drop back down again. No sign of that happening.

Since then we had the Windows ATI 8.23 & 8.24 episodes which created many Ghosts. They are Still around. Anyone running Stock Windows ATI/AMD GPUs were affected, plus their unfortunate Wingmates.
If you were assigned any ATI 8.23 or 8.24 tasks via a Wingperson, it's probably going to be a while on those tasks.
Ghosts;
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8001648
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8018694
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8014347
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7795344
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7917831
etc
etc...

OMG...here's one;
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2391236624
Deadline: 4 Mar 2017, 22:33:10 UTC
March....wonderful.
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Message 1842652 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 20:18:56 UTC - in response to Message 1842643.  

Still no problems here with cache. Pendings are up a bit, but within usual levels.
In progress (2600) · Validation pending (5224) · Validation inconclusive (116) · Valid (3870) · Invalid (0) · Error (0)

Although I am sure he is aware of and working on the scheduler bug, I sent Eric another reminder message on it.
I suggested that it might help if he would change the checkbox for 'accept work from other applications' from a simple 'Yes' to 'Hell, Yes'.........................LOL.

Meow.

EDIT:
And Eric replied already.
He has not figured the problem out just yet, and hopes he can get back to working on it Thursday or so.
SOOOOOOOOOOO.....
Those of you having problems are going to have to do your best with workarounds until 'at least' the end of the week.

Grrrrrr!! Now my other Windows 7 machine is exhibiting the problem getting GPU work. My main driver is down to about 100 tasks now. Still getting no work when asked for or maybe 1 task every half hour or so. I set a bunch of Event Log options to see what BOINC thinks I should be getting for work scheduling. Obvious that the daily driver seems to be in constant 600 second backoff. I show lots of requested work and shortfall and not all that saturated. If I think I understand what the debug output should represent, I don't see a reason why I shouldn't be getting work. I'm going to set the account options back to yes, yes, yes. It's interesting that I have only seen this problem on my Windows 7 64 bit machines. My Windows 10 64 bit machine has been humming along with nary a hiccup in getting work. Always at maximum 300 task load. Why are only the Windows 7 machines having issues?

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136801 SETI@home 1/16/2017 12:02:15 PM [work_fetch] REC 762369.065 prio -0.767 can't request work: scheduler RPC backoff (202.44 sec)
136802 1/16/2017 12:02:15 PM [work_fetch] --- state for CPU ---
136803 1/16/2017 12:02:15 PM [work_fetch] shortfall 2367284.44 nidle 0.00 saturated 47957.35 busy 0.00

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136806 SETI@home 1/16/2017 12:02:15 PM [work_fetch] share 0.000 project is backed off (resource backoff: 245.45, inc 600.00)
136807 1/16/2017 12:02:15 PM [work_fetch] --- state for NVIDIA GPU ---
136808 1/16/2017 12:02:15 PM [work_fetch] shortfall 639764.76 nidle 0.00 saturated 26494.28 busy 0.00
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Message 1842655 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 20:38:07 UTC

My pendings are about double what they normally are on the Windows 7 machines. Pendings on the Windows 10 machine are within normal values.
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Message 1842663 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 21:45:28 UTC - in response to Message 1842640.  


I remember someone mentioning a while back the number of their Pendings increasing. At the time mine were around their usual levels, but over the last couple of weeks they've grown a lot.
Usually they're double my in Progress numbers, now they're more than triple.
I was expecting with the return of Guppies the number would drop back down again. No sign of that happening.


. . Hi Grant

. . On La_Bamba my Pendings are currently 4.5 times my In Progress jobs :) go figure?

Stephen

Probably just lots of slow wingmen :)
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Message 1842667 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 22:18:46 UTC 

Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:44 PM CST | SETI@home | Reporting the last of your 5 GPU tasks
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:44 PM CST | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | General prefs updated: using modified prefs for home
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Please use external heat until further notice
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Preferences for 'Heat your Home' contest modified to CPU only
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Get a blanket
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Message 1842668 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 22:21:20 UTC - in response to Message 1842667.   

Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:44 PM CST | SETI@home | Reporting the last of your 5 GPU tasks
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:44 PM CST | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | General prefs updated: using modified prefs for home
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Please use external heat until further notice
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Preferences for 'Heat your Home' contest modified to CPU only
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:05:53 PM CST | SETI@home | Get a blanket

LMAO I scared the Scheduler, go back to BOINC and see:
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:16:01 PM CST | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:16:01 PM CST | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
Mon 16 Jan 2017 04:16:04 PM CST | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 200 new tasks
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Message 1842676 - Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 23:44:54 UTC

Well I've still had no problems and my settings are Yes/Yes/No.

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Message 1842680 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 0:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 1842676.  

Well I've still had no problems and my settings are Yes/Yes/No.

Cheers.


. . It seems to be something else than just the settings, like the version of BOINC.

Stephen

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Message 1842682 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 0:29:27 UTC - in response to Message 1842680.  

Well I've still had no problems and my settings are Yes/Yes/No.

Cheers.


. . It seems to be something else than just the settings, like the version of BOINC.

Stephen

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The kittyman and I are both running good old 6.10.xx versions.

Cheers.
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Message 1842683 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 0:35:44 UTC
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Anyone running the last general release 7.4.42 before the 7.6 series and NOT having issues. I'll backlevel if it will fix the problem. Down to about 50 GPU tasks on my daily driver. Still getting no work available messages.
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138098 SETI@home 1/16/2017 4:31:46 PM Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
138099 SETI@home 1/16/2017 4:31:46 PM Reporting 4 completed tasks
138100 SETI@home 1/16/2017 4:31:46 PM Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
138101 SETI@home 1/16/2017 4:31:51 PM Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
138102 SETI@home 1/16/2017 4:31:51 PM Project has no tasks available

[Edit] I'm not showing ANY backoff for either CPU or GPU work now. Still only getting the occasional single task every half hour or so.
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Message 1842686 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 1:22:30 UTC - in response to Message 1842682.  

Well I've still had no problems and my settings are Yes/Yes/No.

Cheers.


. . It seems to be something else than just the settings, like the version of BOINC.

Stephen

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The kittyman and I are both running good old 6.10.xx versions.

Cheers.


. . ... and that seems to be a good thing at the current time :)

Stephen

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Message 1842689 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 1:54:18 UTC

Where does one scrounge up an old 6.10.58 BOINC installer for Windows 7 64 bit? The BOINC All Versions page Download page only has 7.6 series BOINC platforms for Windows 7 64 bit.
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Message 1842693 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 2:11:16 UTC - in response to Message 1842689.  

Where does one scrounge up an old 6.10.58 BOINC installer for Windows 7 64 bit? The BOINC All Versions page Download page only has 7.6 series BOINC platforms for Windows 7 64 bit.


I have a 6.10.58
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Message 1842709 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 3:12:31 UTC - in response to Message 1842693.  

I've sent you a private message, Lionel. TIA.
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Message 1842715 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 3:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 1842689.  

Where does one scrounge up an old 6.10.58 BOINC installer for Windows 7 64 bit? The BOINC All Versions page Download page only has 7.6 series BOINC platforms for Windows 7 64 bit.


You can find it here Boinc Installer.
It has all the old versions of BOINC.
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Message 1842718 - Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 4:04:26 UTC - in response to Message 1842683.  

My 7.6.22 on Win8.1 has worked continuously through all of this. Also 7.6.33 on my XP box.

It was my Linux box with 7.2..42 that I started having problems with, but now it is fine. I even change my venue to 'work' that my Win8.1 uses and that didn't work.

Which made me think it was BOINC doing it and not the venue ... but then it started working 20 minutes after changing everything back to normal, which make me think it is not BOINC.

In other words ... I don't bloody have a clue.
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