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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I think part of the problem is too many people having kids who don't have the emotional or financial abilities to do so. Easy access to guns doesn't help. That's part of the problem and addressing any part of of it is a positive step. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Guns are just too cheap. They are. In the US in particularly. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/samma-vapen-som-skolskytten-hade-saljs-pa-vapenmassa-i-florida Guns, rifles and ammunition are for sale at a gun fair in Miami. A couple of miles away, 17 people are shot dead this week. Mike Vallone buys a similar weapon as the shooter had, an AR-15 semi-automatic gun . Mike Vallone says it takes a man to use a gun. Nonsense. Even kids knows how to target a gun to someone and shoot. They can even afford to pay for the gun! Heck. Even a first-person shooter computer game cost the twice and more! |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Can You Protect Yourself with Hands; Feet; Baseball Bat; Knife; Dog; Strobe Lights; Screaming; Complying; Calming Words; Disarming Personality? Didn't think so. Scenario Invasions are Vast & Complex. You All Keep TELLING US How to Do It. We Appreciate Your VAST KNOWLEDGE. Weapons Confiscation Only Works on PLANET YAWN; PLANET SIGH; and Other Off-World UTOPIAS. Playing RUSSIAN Roulette on PLANET Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34754 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The US government could reduce the number of guns while maintaining 2nd amendment rights. That's pretty much what happened over here. Certain categories of firearms were banned outright and bought back by the Gov., in fact I was paid back 10 times or more for them than what I paid for them (but it did cure a very fast growing problem here). I think part of the problem is too many people having kids who don't have the emotional or financial abilities to do so. Easy access to guns doesn't help.Or having parents that love their firearms more than they love their kids (this seems to be a bigger problem than most over there realised). Or refer to Dull's answer on my earlier question about kids and collateral damage. Cheers. |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
'Knowing' So Much about this Individual, and 'Knowing' HORRIFIC HARM can be Notice All the PRO-ACTive GRANDSTANDING ACTavists are Doing, AFTER dA fACT. Where were Their SHAMING MOBILE BILLBOARD Trucks; School Walkouts; and Other ACTivist 'PROTESTs', BEFORE This Tragedy? Like I said Above. They KNEW for a LONG TIME and NOTHING was Done by COMMUNITY. See Something Say Something Hear Something NO WORKeee. SO ACTion as DEMONSTRATED AFTER dA HORRIFIC ACT of A LUNATIC is ACTing TOO LATE. ACTing Member of Association of Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I really have been thinking a lot about these shootings, and how the kids get access to guns and why they do what they do. When you come right down to it, I think it's lack of love that drives depressed kids to act out. Broken homes with dysfunctional parents can't supervise kids, and easy access to guns makes a bad situation even worse. Both parents working causes a lot of problems, too. They don't have time for each other, let alone for their kids, and the lack of love hurts everybody. I was spoiled with one parent who worked and one who stayed home and I had a basically idyllic childhood. Would I have become a school shooter if my home life was not as good? I don't think I would have, but my point is, there are many kids neglected out there who are borderline to begin with in how they deal with life, and easy access to guns, either from their parents or friends, is just exacerbating the situation, and making them more likely to act out in a violent way. You have part of it and many of the effects. The war on drugs is a huge measure though. Kid going to school sees another who sells drugs and see how much profit there is. He also sees the violence in the organized crime behind it. The protection of territories. The kid sees the gang and how they act as a family, something he doesn't have at home. But this kid isn't the one who will go shoot up a school. He may shoot up the neighborhood getting rid of rivals, after he joins the gang, but not the school. The one who shoots up the school is the kid who is relentlessly bullied from the first grade on. He is a bit different, maybe a bit more shy, or a bit clumsy, fat, wears glasses or slow so the kids can pick on him. He watches all the cop shows on TV and sees how a gun solves every problem. Mom and Dad are guilty over the time they aren't spending with him so they buy him everything and give him a big allowance. He gets enough cash together and starts buying weapons to make him feel safe. The bullying continues. Finally he snaps and he uses the gun to make it stop. -- lesson here, weapons don't make you safe, only using them can. Another part of this is the classroom size. More kids per teacher. Teachers can't find out who is bullying and who is being bullied. Factbook, instagram, twitter, snapchat and the like are making it worse because now it happens in the dark. If you don't know, you can't stop it or address it. Why? The war on drugs. It has taken the funding for schools and diverted it into building and operating prisons to hold the drug criminals. The war on drugs has also made the citizens lose respect for authority. Police are operating like the gangs they chase now. Catch and steal, er asset forfieture whatever they can get their hands on. The bribes they take. The manufactured evidence to take people's property. Residue being treated the same as a kilo. The law not making sense, so there is no respect for it or for any authority. There also is the extreme fear put into teachers that they can't be parents. They have no method to discipline the pupils. The kids figure that out real quick. They just keep on bullying and getting bolder doing it. Then they take it outside the school and quickly learn juvenile hall is a cake walk, so you can even get away with murder. Viral things. The kid wants attention. What better way than the national news. He will plot the biggest school shooting yet. He will finish first at something. He'll be famous. Now you have a school shooter. |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Now we are getting serious... har GOP Mega Donor: No More Money Without ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/17/top-gop-donor-no-money-without-assault-weapons-ban GOP mega donor and real estate developer Al Hoffman Jr. says he will not write another check to Republicans until that pass an “assault weapons†ban. ... |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34754 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
At least that link can be backed up by more neutral sites (for a change) and that would at least be 1 step towards curbing the idiocy. Cheers. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Your police and military are obviously mentally unstable too. +1 CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Guns are just too cheap. Now this is something I don't understand. Why would ANYONE have a need to own 50+ guns??? I have 2 guns, a 30cal hunting rifle and a semi-auto 22cal plinker rifle. I have not used either since the 80's and 90's. Why would I need 50 guns? I don't, and I don't see a reason for anyone else to own 50 guns. That is just ridiculous. I would agree that a limit on firearm ownership would be in our best interest. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I don't get this. In the US you can buy a gun when you are 18. But you cannot buy alcohol until you are 20 or 21! Why not change the law so you have to be 21 to buy a gun? Or are is that an infringement of the 2'nd as well? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Or are is that an infringement of the 2'nd as well?17 is the enlistment age for the militia, er military. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
I don't get this. On this, I would have to agree. If you cannot drink/buy alcohol until 21 then to buy a gun should be the same. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
& we're only 3/4ths through 2nd month of year A spokesman for the department said officers do not believe the shooting was random, but would not elaborate. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
& we're only 3/4ths through 2nd month of year Domestic violence is ugly and if not by gun then by hatchet, knife, baseball bat, ... |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
On this, I would have to agree. If you cannot drink/buy alcohol until 21 then to buy a gun should be the same. WAR. 18 Years Old. Holding and Shooting a GUN at 18 YEARs OLD. WAR Go to WAR @ 18. Buy a GUN, DRINK ALCOHOL @ 18 Many Many Many 18 Year OLDs Have DIED fO this. DEMOCRATs are Sending LESS than TEENAGERs Out Into dA Streets to 'PROTEST' 'RALLY' and Otherwise Get 'INVOLVED' and HAVE YOU SEEN A LEFTist 'GET TOGETHER' Recently? Yeah. VERY VIOLENT. PLANET YAWN aka LEFTISTs are..... RIGHT? RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT Your LEFT Your RIGHT your LEFT Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34754 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yawn. |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
Lol... Morning Wiggo :) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34754 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well it looks like Trump doesn't want millions of school kids on the steps of the White House and is trying to head it of by offering a small concession. Donald Trump Directs Justice Department To Take Steps To Ban Bump Stocks. But it looks like U.S. firearm laws will eventually change as the younger generations look to make sure that it happens sooner rather than later. Cheers for kids that can see further and have more sense than the old gun loving idiots can or have. |
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