I buy barebones boxes from a company in Cincinnati with everything except SSD and Hard drives pre-installed as I've discovered it's actually less expensive and saves time and annoyance. As I generally stick to older CPU(Gen 6 Intel) and Motherboard Chipsets (Z99 is what I'm considering) rather than bleeding edge technology I think the install will go ok.

If not my journey deep into Linux will commence sooner than anticipated.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

New examples of what your Windows 10 Creators Update sends back, depending on if you selected the Basic or Full telemetry:
From https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-feedback-diagnostics-and-privacy:

At Basic we collect only data necessary to keep Windows devices up-to-date and secure. Basic data includes information about the device itself, the proper function of Windows and Store updates, and basic error data. We collect the following data at the Basic level:

• Device, connectivity, and configuration data:
  • Data about the device such as the processor type, OEM manufacturer, type of battery and capacity, number and type of cameras, firmware and memory attributes.
  • Network capabilities and connection data such as the device’s IP address, mobile network (including IMEI and mobile operator) and whether the device is connected to a free or paid network.
  • Data about the operating system and its configuration such as the OS version and build number; region and language settings; diagnostics level; and whether the device is part of the Windows Insider program.
  • Data about connected peripherals such as model, manufacturer, driver and compatibility information.
  • Data about the applications installed on the device such as application name, version, and publisher.
  
• Whether a device is ready for an update and whether there are factors that may impede the ability to receive updates, such as low battery, limited disk space, or connectivity through a paid network.
  
• Whether updates complete successfully or fail.
  
• Data about the reliability of the diagnostics collection system itself.
  
• Basic error reporting, which is health data about the operating system and applications running on your device. For example, basic error reporting tells us if an application, such as Microsoft Paint or a third-party game, hangs or crashes.
  

Full data includes everything collected with Basic data, plus additional information that enables Microsoft to fix and improve products and services for all users. We collect the following additional information at the Full Level:

• Additional data about the device, connectivity, and configuration beyond that collected at Basic.
  
• Status and logging information about the health of the operating system and other system components (in addition to data about the update and diagnostics systems collected at Basic).
  
• App usage, such as which programs are launched on a device, how long they run, and how quickly they respond to input.
  
• Browser usage, including browsing history and search terms.
  
• Small samples of inking and typing input, which is processed to remove identifiers, sequencing information, and other data (such as names, email addresses and numeric values) which could be used to reconstruct the original content or associate the input to the user. This data is never used for Tailored experiences as described below.
  
• Enhanced error reporting, including the memory state of the device when a system or app crash occurs (which may unintentionally contain parts of a file you were using when the problem occurred). Crash data is never used for Tailored experiences as described below.
  

According to Microsoft 71% of the computers is set to send back full data. You're all crazy.

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New examples of what your Windows 10 Creators Update sends back, depending on if you selected the Basic or Full telemetry:
From https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-feedback-diagnostics-and-privacy:

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According to Microsoft 71% of the computers is set to send back full data. You're all crazy.

Jord!

Thanks for that...

The "You're all crazy" sent a perfectly innocent coffee up my nose and elsewhere...!!


Quite the understatement of the day? ;-)

Happy crunchin',
Martin

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The "You're all crazy" sent a perfectly innocent coffee up my nose and elsewhere...!!

Martin, you still haven't learned how to drink coffee off your monitor? :-)

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The "You're all crazy" sent a perfectly innocent coffee up my nose and elsewhere...!!

Martin, you still haven't learned how to drink coffee off your monitor? :-)

Something along the lines of this I would imagine.

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I chose the "basic" option. But now patch updates come like thieves in the night. I got one yesterday.
Tullio

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I opened the cover of my Surface Tablet this morning to discover it already turned on and happily digesting some bit of M$ B$ that I probably don't want.............glad that's the only device I possess running W10.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

I opened the cover of my Surface Tablet this morning to discover it already turned on and happily digesting some bit of M$ B$ that I probably don't want.............glad that's the only device I possess running W10.

I now have a Windows 10 machine (was pre-installed)... it's a (mostly) offline retro gaming system that doesn't have BOINC installed (I gotta have one that's just mine!) and is in suspend when I am not using it. I found it's actually quite easy to stop Windows 10's notorious updates:

Click Start, type "serv" until Services appears. Open it. Find Windows Update. Right-click and stop the service. Right-click, Properties, change Startup Type to Disabled. Ta-frickin-da! No more updates.

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Cool, thanx very much

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Click Start, type "serv" until Services appears. Open it. Find Windows Update. Right-click and stop the service. Right-click, Properties, change Startup Type to Disabled. Ta-frickin-da! No more updates.

Leaving you wide open for zero day exploits.
I prefer just to block driver updates, and delay the others so I don't get them till any issues are sorted out.

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Grant
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Leaving you wide open for zero day exploits.

Not likely to get them on my machine disconnected from all networks where the only things I install are purchased and months ago. :^p
I can also always re-enable the service from time to time when it's my choice to install updates thankyouverymuch, ie when I am confident that my OS won't get trashed by a bad one.

Here is a good article with plenty of options. There is even a utility to select which updates to install... what will they think of next!

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Here is a related article form Tech Republic about the Win 10 snooping...
Windows 10 snooping? Most users want us to record what they do on their PC says Microsoft

Just over 70 percent of users choose to send full diagnostics data back to Microsoft, according to Marisa Rogers, Microsoft's privacy officer for the Windows devices group.

... However, given that Windows 10 Home and Pro editions default to sending full diagnostic data back to Microsoft when installed for the first time, it's not a given that users are making a conscious choice to share as much usage data as possible. The high proportion "choosing" the full setting could equally result from most users clicking past the privacy settings page without reading it or changing the defaults.

and a heads up article about Windows 10 "tech support" scammers...
Warning, Windows 10 users! Tech support scammers have a new method for phishing attacks

Microsoft's Malware Protection Center has spotted new phishing techniques that direct Windows 10 users to fraudulent tech-support sites. Here's how you could be affected.

Sending mass emails that pretend to come from popular sites like LinkedIn or Amazon has been a mainstay of online scammers, who include links to fake bank or email login sites. But now, this tactic is being redirected to tech support sites in order to phish credentials.

The 3 big takeaways for TechRepublic readers:
1) On Tuesday, Microsoft's Malware Protection Center announced that it had learned about new strategies to target those using Windows 10: Via links that lead to fraudulent tech support sites.

2) The scam involves a series of malicious ads that redirect victims to a fake tech-support page, in which Windows 10 users are presented with a display of fake Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) or other bogus Windows security alerts, according to ZDNet.

3) Once users have clicked on the link that leads to the fraudulent website, they are presented with a host of security-alert pop-ups that aim to drive users contact the bogus support call center.

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Trouble in Windows Update land:

Windows Update KB4034664 is causing trouble on 2nd screen
It seems, that Microsoft’s Update KB4034664 (and KB4034679) for Windows 7 and Windows Server is causing display issues with several applications on a second screen. I’ve seen issues with PDF viewer, Excel, Office 2013, JAVA and Irfanview.

2017-08 update for Windows 10 Anniversary Update ("1607") breaks WSUS
We've discovered that (now listed as a known issue in the Windows 10 Update History) the most recent update to Windows 10 Anniversary Update (2017-08) causes machines that are connected to WSUS to fail to find subsequent updates, returning the error:

There were some problems installing updates, but we’ll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help: (0x8024401c)

The issue is called out as a Known Issue of "WSUS servers will exhibit increased CPU, memory, and network utilization when Windows Update clients perform their first scan after installing KB4034658 ("Microsoft is investigating this issue and will provide an update as soon as possible.")

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Trouble in Windows Update land:

Remember the problem with Windows Update on Vista & Win7 taking forever (if at all) to find updates?
It's now made it to Win10.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Trouble in Windows Update land:

Windows Update KB4034664 is causing trouble on 2nd screen
It seems, that Microsoft’s Update KB4034664 (and KB4034679) for Windows 7 and Windows Server is causing display issues with several applications on a second screen. I’ve seen issues with PDF viewer, Excel, Office 2013, JAVA and Irfanview.

A fix is available now although only available via the Microsoft Update Catalog. Oh, and on my system it needed three reboots to install.

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A fix is available now although only available via the Microsoft Update Catalog.

In the mean time the fix has been revoked and
has mysteriously returned again, just with a new date on the package. Perhaps that the triple reboot was something they didn't like.

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In short. Windows 10 Creator update - install or refuse by all means possible?

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In short. Windows 10 Creator update - install or refuse by all means possible?

In short, not just no, but hell no. LOL.
Still XP here on the crunchers and 7 on the daily driver,

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

To be more precise: I'm asking about Creator update, not about to install Win10 or not. Netbook came already with it and I have no intention to replace whole OS.

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We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them.

In short. Windows 10 Creator update - install or refuse by all means possible?

I've had no issues with the Creators Update other than it clobbering my video driver- it remained un-changed, but I had to re-install it to get OpenCL to work again.
After the Creator's Update there was another update, that resulted in Windows Update taking ages to work (like with WIn7 etc). After it (eventually) updated, that Windows Update issue appears to have resolved itself.

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Grant
Darwin NT