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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Jul 15 Posts: 268 Credit: 1,735,966 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Nothing is sacred anymore... where Micro$oft is concerned. They do not want end users to have choice. They want to dictate how end users live in the digital age. That is why I CHOSE to stay with Win7 and turned off Windows Updates. I like to choose what I do digitally and what I use to do it. :) I did the same.. :) Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !! River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth) "Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO" |
AMDave Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,671,730 RAC: 0 ![]() |
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Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
It's been long enough, and there's three new ones to add. "updates to avoid", version 8: (Red for 8.1, Blue for 7, Green for either/both): KB 2952664 - Labeled a compatibility upgrade for upgrading Windows 7, its purpose is to "make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows". KB 2957026 - This update makes feature changes and improvements to the Windows 8.1 Upgrade notification in Windows 8 or Windows RT. After you install this update, the upgrade will be more discoverable and faster. KB 2976978 - A compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 which "performs diagnostics on the Windows system [..] to determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. KB 2977759 - This update performs diagnostics on the Windows systems that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program. These diagnostics help determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. This update will help Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system. KB 2990214 - Does the same as KB 3044374 but on Windows 7. KB 3021917 - Does the same as KB 2976978 but on Windows 7. KB 3022345 - Update to enable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows (Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1) KB 3035583 - This update installs the "Get Windows 10" notification on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 KB 3044374 - This update for Windows 8.1 enables systems to upgrade from the current operating system to a later version of Windows. KB 3050265 - This update makes improvements to the Update client to increase scanning speed, and to improve the upgrade to later versions of Windows. Also provides the registry keys to disable upgrading to 10. KB 3050267 - Same as KB3050265 but for Windows 8.1. KB 3058168 - This update allows 8.1 Key Management Service (KMS) hosts to upgrade to 10. KB 3065987 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7. KB 3065988 - Same as KB3065987, but for Windows 8.1. KB 3068708 - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. KB 3075249 - This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels. KB 3075851 - This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 and also resolves an issue in which certain Windows Update operations fail when you install (KB3065987) on Windows 7 Embedded editions. KB 3075853 - Same as KB3075851, but for Windows 8.1. KB 3079821 - Same as KB3058168, but for Windows 7. KB 3081954 - This update ensures users can continue using Work Folders when upgrading from Windows 7 to 10. Also adds telemetry points to Work Folders for Asimov telemetry pipeline. KB 3080149 - This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. KB 3083324 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 - August 2015. KB 3083325 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 - August 2015. KB 3083710 - New Update Client for Windows 7. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.) KB 3083711 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1. No further details about it. (It is suspected this new client downloads other updates in this list in the background without any consent or notice of doing so.) KB 3102810 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083710 KB 3102812 - Improvements to the New Update Client provided by KB3083711 KB 3112343 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 7 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was. KB 3112336 - Improves the Update Client when upgrading from 8.1 to 10 and provides MS with feedback on how smooth the process was. KB 3123862 - This update adds capabilities to some computers that lets users easily learn about Windows 10 or start an upgrade to Windows 10. (read: "nags you with propaganda until you give-in") KB 3135445 - New Update Client for Windows 7 - February 2016. KB 3135449 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1 - February 2016. KB 3138612 - New Update Client for Windows 7 - March 2016. KB 3138615 - New Update Client for Windows 8.1 - March 2016. KB 3139929 - Update for IE9. It does fix some issues, but stealthily installs 3146449, which is an IE 11 update that gives win7/8.1 an upgrade path to 10. This update has been dubbed "when a security update is not a security update" KB 3146449 - Updates IE 11's capabilities to upgrade 7/8.1 to 10. This one is not stand-alone, it is embedded within 3139929. KB 3150513 - "May 2016 Compatibility Update" - improves the nagging mechanism to coerce you into getting 10 whether you want it or not. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
I figured it was time for an updated list, since there hasn't been a refresh to that list in a while. Only the three green updates at the end were added, and the second one of those isn't even stand-alone. It's been a bit of a calm/dry spell, which is not at all a bad thing. But for those who are naturally cautious and skeptical, this does feel a bit like "the calm before the storm." Also surprising, given that there was a pretty steady run of new update clients for 7 and 8.1 every single month for 7 or 8 months there.. there has not been one for April or May. I think that is what concerns me the most in this semi-dry spell. If there were no updates that were specifically marked as new update clients... were they maybe stealthily included in security updates or just simply called something entirely unrelated? Or is the March update client so perfect that it does not need any more improvements? Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Thanks, as always, C_O. ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I just received this email more good news from the money grubbing slimeballs at M$ Another reason to build your own 'cloud storage' I'm moving everything to my NAS. Changes to OneDrive ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Dec 08 Posts: 231 Credit: 28,112,547 RAC: 1 ![]() |
its better then vista and 8 any day. ![]() |
Mark Stevenson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 ![]() ![]() |
I got the same email a couple of months ago ,way things are going int exactly a surprise is it Life is what you make of it :-) When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-) |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3390 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Windows 10 adoption hits 300 million as Microsoft warns the free upgrade will end soon If you haven't upgraded from Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 by July 29, expect to pay more than $100 to do so later. “If you’ve already upgraded to Windows 10 –- thank you. If you haven’t upgraded yet –- we hope you’ll consider upgrading today,†Yusuf Mehdi, the corporate vice president of Microsoft’s Windows and Devices Group, said in a blog post. But these upgrades—accepted or not—have also been disruptive. Most recently, a newscast was interrupted with an upgrade notification, as was a live Twitch stream. Erik Flom was playing Counter-Strike in front of a reported 120,000 people when his computer spontaneously launched the upgrade process. Expect more of these sorts of stories as July nears. |
OTS Send message Joined: 6 Jan 08 Posts: 371 Credit: 20,533,537 RAC: 0 ![]() |
"Microsoft removes store-blocking from Windows 10 Pro" http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36226372 I think this will be one more reason for even businesses to turn off updates completely. If M$ did this now, what will they do next so why take a chance. The cure could be worse than the disease. There is only the chance of someone taking advantage of a vulnerability while things like this are almost a certainty if updates are left on. |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
The Microsoft Security Intelligence Report (isn't that a contradictio in terminis, Microsoft, Security and Intelligence in one sentence?) writes that between July 2015 and December 2015 malware infections increased a lot on Windows computers. Hmmm, wonder how they got that data. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 ![]() ![]() |
Not having problems with Win 10 and being overall quite happy with it I have not posted in this thread much. However after the "One Drive" email, I also got this.
Now I have used Live Mail as my mail programme for may years, I have collected over the years 6 email accounts and Live mail allows me to easily see them in an easy to use format, the new "mail" program in Win 8/10 is, well a kiddies toy in comparison. So It does seem that they want everyone to toe their line. I have already saved all my files for one drive and deleted it from my PC. Next I will be changing all places I use my "Hotmail" address to Gmail. Anyone recommend a good e-mail program? |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Anyone recommend a good e-mail program? I've been using Mozilla's Thunderbird as my e-mail client since at least 2007 and it serves my needs quite well. |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22674 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
A second vote for Thunderbird Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Jul 15 Posts: 268 Credit: 1,735,966 RAC: 0 ![]() |
A second vote for Thunderbird A 3rd vote............. Stay here on Earth. It's the only planet with DARK CHOCOLATE !! River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth) "Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO" |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Aug 08 Posts: 15401 Credit: 7,423,413 RAC: 1 ![]() |
4th'd, no issues here using Thunderbird with outlook. ![]() Member of the People Encouraging Niceness In Society club. ![]() |
Sleepy ![]() Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 219 Credit: 98,947,784 RAC: 28,360 ![]() ![]() |
Long live what remains of Eudora! Cheers, Sleepy |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 ![]() ![]() |
4th'd, no issues here using Thunderbird with outlook. Yes but what may happen after the "update" on 30th June? Now I have tried T-Bird before and cannot remember the reason but I didn't like it at all, oh well, time to try again. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13886 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Now I have tried T-Bird before and cannot remember the reason but I didn't like it at all, oh well, time to try again. When I went from Visa to Win7 I gave Thunderbird a go because that's when MS dropped the Windows Mail client. Unfortunately I couldn't get all of my existing emails & contacts from Windows Mail to Thunderbird without an massive amount of screwing around (the import function just didn't work properly), and even then I couldn't get some things across. So that's when I ended up going with Windows Live mail as it only took a few clicks to transfer emails, contacts & account info over. Hopefully things have improved since then. Grant Darwin NT |
Ulrich Metzner ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
Well, may not be good for everyone, but i - coming from XP - use emclient, i like it! http://emclient.com Maybe better this url for international use: http://www.emclient.com/?lang=en Aloha, Uli |
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