You definatly had to learn how to cook snow and ice. How else can you clean up after a meal?

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You definatly had to learn how to cook snow and ice. How else can you clean up after a meal?

It's easier to get fresh water from a bottle. Cold but not frozen:)
And it take hours to melt snow and ice.
We didn't have so much methanol with us and time to melt snow.

btw. Have you tried to clean up after a meal in the winter when it's both cold and dark.

This is our kitchen tools AKA "Filth Can".

Or you can use a cedar shingle, soaked in water overnight, the shingle chars and smokes on the fire side, steams on the fish side cooking the meat. Again place lemon slices between the fish and the shingle.

No mess, no cleanup(throw the shingle away), and a nice smoke flavor is added to the fish. Salmon steaks are done this way in the NW US.

My GF does salmon in foil with lemon slices and dill in the toaster oven she seals it tight, turnes out great very time.

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You definatly had to learn how to cook snow and ice. How else can you clean up after a meal?

It's easier to get fresh water from a bottle. Cold but not frozen:)
And it take hours to melt snow and ice.
We didn't have so much methanol with us and time to melt snow.

btw. Have you tried to clean up after a meal in the winter when it's both cold and dark.

This is our kitchen tools AKA "Filth Can".

Never seen pot and pan like that before. I take it the other is the burner?

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Never seen pot and pan like that before. I take it the other is the burner?

Thats standard army equipment and also used by forest hikers.
The burner is the brass little thing in the pic and I think it took 15 minutes to boil your morning coffe using it burning with methanol from the plastic container.
To the left you have the "stove" used so the wind doesn't put out the fire.

Hmm I can still remember the smell:)

I have an earthquack kit which can keep my GF and myself going for about a week. I have MRE's, water and sleeping bags and also a burner and also enough coffee to keep us going. (mre's = Meals Ready to Eat) I can be out of here in less than 2 minutes ready to go.

I hope I never have to use them. :)

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Cheers everybody
Life is short so don't sip
Beer speaks, people mumble

I have an earthquack kit which can keep my GF and myself going for about a week. I have MRE's, water and sleeping bags and also a burner and also enough coffee to keep us going. (mre's = Meals Ready to Eat) I can be out of here in less than 2 minutes ready to go.
I hope I never have to use them. :)

MRE's = Meals Ready to Eat. Yummie.
I had to. Once or twice. Cans that was produced 10 or 15 years ago and in a olive drab colour can. All tasted the same and was very tasteless.
Reading the menu at the ISS is a feat compared to that.

I have an earthquack kit which can keep my GF and myself going for about a week. I have MRE's, water and sleeping bags and also a burner and also enough coffee to keep us going. (mre's = Meals Ready to Eat) I can be out of here in less than 2 minutes ready to go.
I hope I never have to use them. :)

MRE's = Meals Ready to Eat. Yummie.
I had to. Once or twice. Cans that was produced 10 or 15 years ago and in a olive drab colour can. All tasted the same and was very tasteless.
Reading the menu at the ISS is a feat compared to that.

No MRE's are dry packages you add water and they have a cardboard incert and it heats it up in just a few minutes. the US Army passes them out. you can buy them now and some are quite good. The old "C" rations was another story I had when I was in. the one that blew me away was the ham and lima beans with 3/4 inch of fat on top, YUCK!!! Pork and beans and pound cake was the best plus crackers too.

Back in those days we could smoke and in each package we would get a full pack in a carton.

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Cheers everybody
Life is short so don't sip
Beer speaks, people mumble

No MRE's are dry packages you add water and they have a cardboard incert and it heats it up in just a few minutes. the US Army passes them out. you can buy them now and some are quite good. The old "C" rations was another story I had when I was in. the one that blew me away was the ham and lima beans with 3/4 inch of fat on top, YUCK!!! Pork and beans and pound cake was the best plus crackers too.
Back in those days we could smoke and in each package we would get a full pack in a carton.

Yes. The dry packages you add water to was invented at my time doing military service but the army had to get rid of rid of supplies earlier then that.
We had to eat "food" from the 60's:)
However the chocolate was good.
The peasoup was also good in the Winter.
Not the Blood Pudding that got cold...

I have an earthquack kit which can keep my GF and myself going for about a week. I have MRE's, water and sleeping bags and also a burner and also enough coffee to keep us going. (mre's = Meals Ready to Eat) I can be out of here in less than 2 minutes ready to go.
I hope I never have to use them. :)

MRE's = Meals Ready to Eat. Yummie.
I had to. Once or twice. Cans that was produced 10 or 15 years ago and in a olive drab colour can. All tasted the same and was very tasteless.
Reading the menu at the ISS is a feat compared to that.

No MRE's are dry packages you add water and they have a cardboard incert and it heats it up in just a few minutes. the US Army passes them out. you can buy them now and some are quite good. The old "C" rations was another story I had when I was in. the one that blew me away was the ham and lima beans with 3/4 inch of fat on top, YUCK!!! Pork and beans and pound cake was the best plus crackers too.

Back in those days we could smoke and in each package we would get a full pack in a carton.

I actually tried some c-rations at one time, MRE's I've never had, maybe one day.

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I understand "K" rations were nasty which I never want to try.

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Cheers everybody
Life is short so don't sip
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Not MRE exactly, but a company called Mountain House (USA), makes the best commercial freeze dried meals.http://www.mountainhouse.com/
I've tried most and the flavor is very good.

Another source I use for survival/bug out supplies is the local LDS food outlet.
They bulk freeze-dry lots of produce and resell to the public for very reasonable prices.

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Today we have many MRE's. It takes about 6 minutes to "cook" a dinner in the micro wave oven.
But some taste quite good. Other taste nothing or worse, to much sugar...

The closest I get to an MRE these days, is My eggs, whole powdered eggs in a #10 can, which is $22.29+4.99(ups) for a 2.25lb can. Which I combine with some salt, pepper and 2 sausage, which is usually what I have for breakfast.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

The closest I get to an MRE these days, is My eggs, whole powdered eggs in a #10 can, which is $22.29+4.99(ups) for a 2.25lb can. Which I combine with some salt, pepper and 2 sausage, which is usually what I have for breakfast.

Powdered eggs?
Why not real eggs. I have picked eggs from hens sometimes. One from a hen that just laid one. The shell was still soft and covered with warm slime:)
And they were very tasty.

The closest I get to an MRE these days, is My eggs, whole powdered eggs in a #10 can, which is $22.29+4.99(ups) for a 2.25lb can. Which I combine with some salt, pepper and 2 sausage, which is usually what I have for breakfast.

Powdered eggs?
Why not real eggs. I have picked eggs from hens sometimes. One from a hen that just laid one. The shell was still soft and covered with warm slime:)
And they were very tasty.

Distance to the store is 12.5 miles(about 20.12 Km) and My income is for 2015, $889.40 a month, that's all I get, since the eggs are powdered, they won't spoil, fresh eggs won't last for a month.

Also the cost of gasoline is $3.199 a gallon, I use 1 gallon per trip to the store and back to home with My car, there is no public transportation that I'd take out here, what is here is called dial a ride and tends to wander all over picking up passengers, needs change(coins) only and has nowhere to sit while waiting for the bus. So I own and drive a car, since food can spoil and the bus has a limit of 4 bags per person.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

The closest I get to an MRE these days, is My eggs, whole powdered eggs in a #10 can, which is $22.29+4.99(ups) for a 2.25lb can. Which I combine with some salt, pepper and 2 sausage, which is usually what I have for breakfast.

Powdered eggs?
Why not real eggs. I have picked eggs from hens sometimes. One from a hen that just laid one. The shell was still soft and covered with warm slime:)
And they were very tasty.

Distance to the store is 12.5 miles(about 20.12 Km) and My income is for 2015, $889.40 a month, that's all I get, since the eggs are powdered, they won't spoil, fresh eggs won't last for a month.

Fresh eggs will store 3-5 weeks but I get a bit more because my refrigerator is set right at freezing. If I am careless how I store the eggs they will freeze. On the other hand, the powered eggs take less room to store and the total cost might be less. It's like I use powered milk in my bread making because I can concentrate it 3 times more than normal milk and the flavor isn't a problem in bread. Do I drink powered milk? Not if I can avoid it.

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Distance to the store is 12.5 miles(about 20.12 Km) and My income is for 2015, $889.40 a month, that's all I get, since the eggs are powdered, they won't spoil, fresh eggs won't last for a month.
Also the cost of gasoline is $3.199 a gallon, I use 1 gallon per trip to the store and back to home with My car, there is no public transportation that I'd take out here, what is here is called dial a ride and tends to wander all over picking up passengers, needs change(coins) only and has nowhere to sit while waiting for the bus. So I own and drive a car, since food can spoil and the bus has a limit of 4 bags per person.

I didn't know. It's so much easier here in Scandinavia.
We have food just around corner.
Both in stores and in the nature.

Not to being political but California and other regions near deserts are more and more becoming a non habital zone due to the global warming.

Distance to the store is 12.5 miles(about 20.12 Km) and My income is for 2015, $889.40 a month, that's all I get, since the eggs are powdered, they won't spoil, fresh eggs won't last for a month.
Also the cost of gasoline is $3.199 a gallon, I use 1 gallon per trip to the store and back to home with My car, there is no public transportation that I'd take out here, what is here is called dial a ride and tends to wander all over picking up passengers, needs change(coins) only and has nowhere to sit while waiting for the bus. So I own and drive a car, since food can spoil and the bus has a limit of 4 bags per person.

I didn't know. It's so much easier here in Scandinavia.
We have food just around corner.
Both in stores and in the nature.

Not to being political but California and other regions near deserts are more and more becoming a non habital zone due to the global warming.

Well we can fry eggs in the summer time on the sidewalks. LOL but Frying burgers takes a while and the dogs won't let that happen.

I was going to make Bison meatloaf yesterday but ended up with burgers, man they were good with fried onions and cheese, top notch!

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Cheers everybody
Life is short so don't sip
Beer speaks, people mumble

Distance to the store is 12.5 miles(about 20.12 Km) and My income is for 2015, $889.40 a month, that's all I get, since the eggs are powdered, they won't spoil, fresh eggs won't last for a month.
Also the cost of gasoline is $3.199 a gallon, I use 1 gallon per trip to the store and back to home with My car, there is no public transportation that I'd take out here, what is here is called dial a ride and tends to wander all over picking up passengers, needs change(coins) only and has nowhere to sit while waiting for the bus. So I own and drive a car, since food can spoil and the bus has a limit of 4 bags per person.

I didn't know. It's so much easier here in Scandinavia.
We have food just around corner.
Both in stores and in the nature.

Not to being political but California and other regions near deserts are more and more becoming a non habital zone due to the global warming.

It's not global warming. There are weather cycles and some run 400 years or more. The 20th century has been wetter than normal and now we are entering the dry part of the cycle. Several native indian tribes constructed irrigation systems that supported a large population until the dry cycle hit and the population fell to the point were there weren't enough people to maintain the irrigation system.
Our big problem is people wanting to plant green lawns in the middle of the desert. They require far to much water to maintain. We can't continue to have more people unless people use water wisely.

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