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Message 1606647 - Posted: 28 Nov 2014, 20:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 1606644.  

If you decide to add the bitcoin utopia project to boinc ..

Be aware that the Seti@Home is campaign #5. When BCU installs it enable ALL BCU projects (campaigns).

To do bitcoin mining JUST for the Seti project you have to go to edit preferences inside the BCU project and deselect the other campaigns.
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Message 1606736 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 0:35:35 UTC - in response to Message 1606644.  

Jedi night you are correct if enough switch over it will make some serious money for the project .

Also i stopped using AVG years ago to problematic for me i now use only Microsoft's sercurity Essentials and nothing else and viola no more stupid positives but you do need a legit system to use it and it doesn't like AVG and finds everything and is free and so are definition updates too .

In 5 days i have been doing BTU i've seen the total ask for go from only 2% to 35% when i looked this morning and only in 5 days and with only about 400 users now so your 100% right we could generate some serious money while the servers have no work . so Thank's for joining in .
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Message 1606741 - Posted: 29 Nov 2014, 1:04:39 UTC - in response to Message 1606736.  

As an aside I have found MSE being a MS product seems to use less system resources than any other AV program I have used therefore my run times improve a bit on my W7 box.
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Message 1607598 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 7:40:20 UTC - in response to Message 1605081.  

That not the sujet, but y Am against bitcoin
The idee was not bad as start
But money, any money
Is a, or supose to by a value in human works, not a value in
Human things. Trinket or object.
Money is a unit of work, men works if you can speculate
Whit a money, bitcoin or by another name, you speculate on the works
Of men.

For starter nearly all the problem in this days and ages.
Is this speculation on the value of human works?
You agree that is criminal for David Suzuki to ave a nice home
Because all is life, of teatching is wortless, but it’s ok for Kim kardatian
To drive a luxurie car, wears 20 thousans dollars robes and live in luxurie
House. What Kim kardatian ever teatch to future generations.
Bitcoin are tools to create more Kim kardatian not a tool to
Free men from them, sorry even to save seti, y will not use, plays or support
Bitcoin in Anny form.

Y will wait. For seti to resolve the present problem or wait
Even longer for the next seti project, because it wil ever by a seti
Project on ways or other.
Radio amateur VE2 canada.
A défaut de radio astronomie, vieux, âgé et semi-voyant
faire partie de l aventure par l entremise du projet.
volontaire, ces la vrais démocratie.
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Message 1607609 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 9:46:14 UTC

Progress?
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Message 1607699 - Posted: 1 Dec 2014, 15:56:42 UTC - in response to Message 1607609.  

Progress?


On 26 November, Eric estimated that it was going to take week. Until further updates arrive, you should assume that's the best info available.
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Message 1608191 - Posted: 2 Dec 2014, 16:47:30 UTC - in response to Message 1606404.  


I don't have any experience with database software so don't know if the following is of any help to speed-up the 'things' (and you probably know it all):


We were aware of these, and have incorporated many of the suggestions over the years. In this case it all appears to come down to the way informix implements sequence indexes. Each item in a sequence is allocated separately. When inserting a million rows it allocates a million locks on the index, each lock requires at least two context swaps apart from the two necessary to get the index key itself, because separate processes seem to be handling each. So it's the linux scheduler getting around to the correct sleeping/waiting informix process that's the bottleneck, as far as I can tell.

There are other things that slow it down, too. The copy of the data blob into the blobspace bypasses the informix shared memory subsystem, so it gets written immediately to disk, but informix doesn't seem to understand that it doesn't need to read empty blob pages into memory before writing them back out. This isn't a huge impact. iostat says the array is only 25% busy, so I'm guessing that the lock/index handling is the real bottleneck.
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Message 1608212 - Posted: 2 Dec 2014, 20:23:03 UTC - in response to Message 1608191.  


I don't have any experience with database software so don't know if the following is of any help to speed-up the 'things' (and you probably know it all):


We were aware of these, and have incorporated many of the suggestions over the years. In this case it all appears to come down to the way informix implements sequence indexes. Each item in a sequence is allocated separately. When inserting a million rows it allocates a million locks on the index, each lock requires at least two context swaps apart from the two necessary to get the index key itself, because separate processes seem to be handling each. So it's the linux scheduler getting around to the correct sleeping/waiting informix process that's the bottleneck, as far as I can tell.

There are other things that slow it down, too. The copy of the data blob into the blobspace bypasses the informix shared memory subsystem, so it gets written immediately to disk, but informix doesn't seem to understand that it doesn't need to read empty blob pages into memory before writing them back out. This isn't a huge impact. iostat says the array is only 25% busy, so I'm guessing that the lock/index handling is the real bottleneck.

If it is the lock/unlock, you might want to see if there is an alternate implementation (file locks) available that would speed things up. I realize that would be for the future as you are mostly finished.
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Message 1610907 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 19:15:15 UTC
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EDIT : only do the cudaminer and cpuminer not shore about the sgminer Don't do any ASIC or any others unless you have the hardware and it's #5 Campaign units you would want to do for seti #6 Campaign is not list and is finished i believe
EDIT EDIT : you set theses in the bitcion utopia preferances on the web site as you would set what type of units you want seti to do
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HI There,

I am not familiar with BitCoinU, but I did follow your instructions, and have the project running as of now in BIONC, it's running all sgminer's, but I do not see where these settings are to turn on/off certain job types CPU/CDA and campaigns. I see the campaigns running, but I don't see on the BCU page, my profile, etc, where I can select data and project types.

Can someone clarify where these controls are please, and how to turn them off? Thanks!
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Message 1610912 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 19:22:15 UTC - in response to Message 1610907.  

I found it: ON BCU, left side, go down you will see:
Returning participants

Your account - view stats, modify preferences
Server status
Teams - create or join a team
Certificate
Applications

Select Modify Preferences:

Then...

Preferences
When and how BOINC uses your computer Computing preferences
Message boards and private messages Community preferences
Preferences for this project Bitcoin Utopia preferences

Select Bitcoin Utopia Preferences

Select - Edit Bitcoin Utopia preferences

Then uncheck the stuff you don't want, as previously mentioned.
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Message 1610913 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 19:27:39 UTC - in response to Message 1610912.  
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Lastly, doing so, unchecking all except project #5 and Cuda/CPU, then updated BIONC, leaves my computer with nothing to do.

Is there some other setting that does allow me to pickup new jobs/data for these 2 types? PLMK.

Oh, the sgminer was the only thing working, what is that compared to the other ##miner?

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cgminer (Campaign #5) (for 1.6+GH/s ASICs): yes
cgminer (Campaign #5) (for 333MH/s ASICs): yes
cgminer (Campaign #5) (for 20+GH/s ASICs): no
CudaMiner (Campaign #5): yes
CPUMiner (Campaign #5): yes
sgminer (Campaign #5): no
bfgminer (Campaign #5) (for 20+GH/s Blade erupter ASICs): no
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Message 1611199 - Posted: 9 Dec 2014, 7:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 1610913.  

Update: I went to check the status of the BCU project, and they were running, not sure how or why it took a while to get the CDU/CPU projects in and running, but its working. I set the BCU up on my main computer, and got a computational error when I first started it. I changed my settings to allow sgminer, updated the project, and that computational error went away, then reset the settings back to sgminer - no.
I only have a guess that that initial sgminer is some sort of benchmarking.
What is sgminer? The mystery question!
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Message 1611729 - Posted: 10 Dec 2014, 13:07:09 UTC - in response to Message 1611199.  

Fistly your in the wrong projects message board you should ask these question at Bitcoin Utopia.

I believe sgminer may be ATI's version of the CUDA miner . So if you have a Nvida GPU you would do CUDA miner and ATI would use sgminer.
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Message 1612015 - Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 1:46:49 UTC - in response to Message 1611199.  

Update: I went to check the status of the BCU project, and they were running, not sure how or why it took a while to get the CDU/CPU projects in and running, but its working. I set the BCU up on my main computer, and got a computational error when I first started it. I changed my settings to allow sgminer, updated the project, and that computational error went away, then reset the settings back to sgminer - no.
I only have a guess that that initial sgminer is some sort of benchmarking.
What is sgminer? The mystery question!

Well if you have a loot on the project's Applications page it tells you exactly what the apps are. Under sgminer you will see opencl_ati_100. From that it should give you a good hint as to what the application is.
It looks like you may still have cgminer enabled for at least open of your machines. Which are going to error out. Unless you do happen to have the ASIC hardware to run the app.
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Message 1612028 - Posted: 11 Dec 2014, 2:54:46 UTC

Thank you for your replies, I do see the descriptions of the campaigns/projects here: http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/apps.php

I was looking to confirm that the Cuda and CPU Miner projects are the ones that make money/donation for SETI, seems that is the case.

Ty!
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Message 1613031 - Posted: 12 Dec 2014, 23:07:34 UTC

Any reason for marvin being disabled again?
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Message 1613156 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 5:13:04 UTC - in response to Message 1613031.  

Because he tried to blow up the Earth for blocking his view of Venus again? :-P
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Message 1613685 - Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 5:01:01 UTC - in response to Message 1613156.  
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Because he tried to blow up the Earth for blocking his view of Venus again? :-P

Marvin the Martian had this to say about the marvin and bruno servers being off line again.

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