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Message 1373627 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1373604.  

William wrote:
edit: CPU apps will be out Monday, provided I don't get a nervous breakdown.

*pats* There, there.
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Message 1373635 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 1373624.  
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Oh I knew already, I was just pointing out, Arky should update that page to reflect 301.24, just to be more complete.

We don't want that now, don't worry about Me.

Thank you for pointing out that information currently going out to 150k active users is incorrect.
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Message 1373639 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:44:54 UTC - in response to Message 1373635.  


Oh I knew already, I was just pointing out, Arky should update that page to reflect 301.24, just to be more complete.

We don't want that now, don't worry about Me.

Thank you for pointing out that information currently going out to 150k active users is incorrect.

And when Arkayn has the time.
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Message 1373652 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 17:57:08 UTC

OK... I have set up and am doing V7 WU's now , here is an excerpt from the event log:

5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.64 for windows_x86_64
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Running under account Floyds
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 925 Processor [Family 16 Model 4 Stepping 3]
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Memory: 3.92 GB physical, 10.75 GB virtual
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Disk: 1.36 TB total, 433.24 GB free

5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 SE (driver version 314.22, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 2.1, 1024MB, 951MB available, 829 GFLOPS peak)
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 SE (driver version 314.22, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 951MB available, 829 GFLOPS peak)
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5953062; resource share 100
5/30/2013 12:38:27 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 17-May-2013 09:48:48)

Everything seems to be good , Just REAL long crunching estimates ( compared to before) , what used to take ( CPU ) 1.5-2 hrs is now showing 4-5 hours ,
GPU is now over 30 min long .

That sound about right ?
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Message 1373666 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:12:00 UTC
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Was able to contact Eric.
He said he would turn off Coral Cache on one of the download servers.
I have to run off to work right now, but please keep an eye on things and post here if it helps the app download situation.

Keep in mind you may not hit that particular download server on every attempt, so I would still expect some download failures. But hopefully it will help.

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Message 1373667 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:13:20 UTC - in response to Message 1373652.  

An estimate is just an estimate, run a few tasks for real and see what happens. But they will take longer than before, yes. That's the whole purpose of this rollout - to study the WUs in greater detail. And more work == more time.
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Message 1373669 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:16:21 UTC - in response to Message 1373667.  

An estimate is just an estimate, run a few tasks for real and see what happens. But they will take longer than before, yes. That's the whole purpose of this rollout - to study the WUs in greater detail. And more work == more time.


That's ok... I LIKE it... LOL... I was just putting out the info for comparative purposes ,(for the GTX 460SE anyway ).
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Message 1373673 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:18:55 UTC - in response to Message 1373653.  
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Everything seems to be good , Just REAL long crunching estimates ( compared to before) , what used to take ( CPU ) 1.5-2 hrs is now showing 4-5 hours ,
GPU is now over 30 min long .

That sound about right ?

That sounds about right, the 7.00 app includes support for AVX, and now uses the latest FFTW 3.3 dll too, which also gives a further speedup compared to the old FFTW 3.1.1 dll,
Hosts with AVX support will get a big speedup, my i7-2600K @4.7GHz does Stock 7.00 CPU Wu's in ~2 to 2½ Hrs, while my C2D T8100 @2.1GHz is doing them in 6 Hrs.

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Message 1373683 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:30:58 UTC
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This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58
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Message 1373687 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:39:20 UTC - in response to Message 1373683.  
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This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58

v7 Downloads will have the application name SETI@home v7 7.00, at present you are running Anonymous Platform with only v6 apps, so at present you are locked into only running v6 Wu's.

For a CPU only host you don't need to a recent Boinc at all, you may sit tight on 6.10.58

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Message 1373690 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 18:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 1373683.  
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This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58


Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.
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Message 1373706 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:23:23 UTC - in response to Message 1373690.  

This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58


Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?
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Message 1373709 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 1373706.  

This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58


Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?

Just wait till Monday and crunch v6 resends in the meantime.
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Message 1373710 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 1373709.  

This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58


Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?

Just wait till Monday and crunch v6 resends in the meantime.


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Message 1373714 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:27:57 UTC - in response to Message 1373706.  

This may sound daft but how do I know if I had the downloads for v7 and what client version do I need using the old 6.10.58


Not sure i understand the question.
As long as you are running the stock application, and have selected to process v7 work in your account, Seti@home settings, BOINC will download (or attempt to) the files it needs automatically.
The version of the manager (in your case 6.10.58) isn't an issue.


EDIT- Claggy beat me to it.

Thanks using an opp so do I need to stop my app ?

I'd set NNT, complete your existing work first, report it, then either remove your app_info, and restart Boinc, you then reset the project and ask for work, make sure Setienhanced v7 is enabled in your Setiathome project preferences.

Or wait until Monday, then download and run the 0.41 Lunatics Installer.

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Message 1373726 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:36:04 UTC

Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?
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Message 1373733 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:38:21 UTC - in response to Message 1373726.  
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Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.
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Message 1373735 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 1373733.  

Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.

What's the URL for stock app then? (until monday)
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Message 1373743 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 1373673.  

Everything seems to be good , Just REAL long crunching estimates ( compared to before) , what used to take ( CPU ) 1.5-2 hrs is now showing 4-5 hours ,
GPU is now over 30 min long .

That sound about right ?

That sounds about right, the 7.00 app includes support for AVX, and now uses the latest FFTW 3.3 dll too, which also gives a further speedup compared to the old FFTW 3.1.1 dll,
Hosts with AVX support will get a big speedup, my i7-2600K @4.7GHz does Stock 7.00 CPU Wu's in ~2 to 2½ Hrs, while my C2D T8100 @2.1GHz is doing them in 6 Hrs.

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If the V7 GPU app's are doing more Intensive work on the Wu's , is it maybe more needed to free up 1 core on cpu , to be more effective for GPU work ?
With the V6 apps , I was getting about the same results with one core free as I was without one free, as far as credit and time went anyway.
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Message 1373745 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 19:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 1373735.  

Isn't is possible to download stock v7 CPU app and put it in app_info.xml ?

sure it's possible.
We just hope to provide faster app at Monday.
For now stock v7 CPU could go.

What's the URL for stock app then? (until monday)

You would need, as a minimum,

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll

I've deliberately not made them clickable, because I want casual readers to stop and think before downloading.

The file sizes are 484,352 and 1,049,920 bytes respectively. Internet Explorer seems to have a habit of truncating manual downloads: Chrome seems better.
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