Just think of the fun you can have when an international group of scientists and engineers have decided on some communication standards for the CCITT and then the lawyers look at it and don't understand the wording used, even when it stated that the definition of words used, were as per Websters Scientific dictionary.

Guy, I'd never think of leaving you out in LEFT field <smile>. You do have company in your interpretations of the constitution and others, who have different interpretations also have company. My point there is just that -- you DO have an *interpretation* of the constitution -- it is at variance with mine, and at variance with the various Federal bodies at the moment (my interpretation is also at variance with various Federal bodies for that matter). Does make your interpretation or mine 'right' -- well, after all, that is a matter for *interpretation*.

Barry, it's not *just me* who interprets the constitution the way *I* do. You make it sound like I'm out in left field, standing there by myself. I am not by myself and we are not out in left field.

Hey, I'm expected to do something for my paycheck.

As am I. :)
Again, the main issue is, Zimmerman was told in training and during his phone call to authorities NOT to get out, pursue or confront.
Also interesting: if I remember correctly, he had a prior record. Why would such a person be on a Neighborhood Watch team and, further, be a captain of it?!?
Next, on further reflection, just because Zimmerman is of mixed race does not mean he cannot be racist. (Whether he is or not is not for me to decide.) In the mid-90s, I taught at a school for emotionally disturbed teens, but it also included teens deemed PINS (person of need of supervision). It as a step or two below juvenile hall. Some of these teens were multiracial. Some of that group had ambivalent feelings bou their heritage. Some identified more with a particular race. Could they have had racist thoughts?
Last: just because GS is now with ABC and not with BC doesn't fit the right wing spin of how the media is biased towards the left.

Sarge, if on a 1 left and 10 right scale, one is at say about 8 or 9 then most of the world has a left wing spin....

You need to counter this by explaining the right wing spin of Huff Post, or better yet that Moveon is a right wing front <smile>.

Sarge, if on a 1 left and 10 right scale, one is at say about 8 or 9 then most of the world has a left wing spin....

You need to counter this by explaining the right wing spin of Huff Post, or better yet that Moveon is a right wing front <smile>.

The articles I've read online from Huff Post seem to the left. (Funny, since it and others are owned by corporations or individual 1%ers.) This would fit the right-wing spin, that much of the media spins left. Am I making sense yet? :)

I supposed I could state the US Constitution wasn't legitimately passed and you'd agree?

I was just referring to my curiosity as to what is a "legitimately passed" amendment. It would help me to understand what amendments you may feel were not passed properly, and why.

I'm not asking what the meaning of "is" is.

"...that depends on what the definition of "is" is."
Lol, classic lawyer talk. (seriously though, the guy was on trial for getting a bj, that's not fair)

The original act should have been between Bill, Hillary, Monica and few others. It should never have gone to the levels it did. But since it did, Bill's double-talk was disgusting. How anyone could trust Al Gore or Hillary after that, when they did not distance himself from him, I do not know. It proved they were opportunists.

"...that depends on what the definition of "is" is."
Lol, classic lawyer talk. (seriously though, the guy was on trial for getting a bj, that's not fair)

The original act should have been between Bill, Hillary, Monica and few others. It should never have gone to the levels it did. But since it did, Bill's double-talk was disgusting. How anyone could trust Al Gore or Hillary after that, when they did not distance himself from him, I do not know. It proved they were opportunists.

Once Bill lost his pretrial with Paula Jones and had to testify, only a dad blame fool would not have settled. A sorry would have made it all go away. Being a "lawyer" he had to know he would be deposed and asked the question. How the hell did he ever get his law degree, or does he represent the average lawyer?

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You need to counter this by explaining the right wing spin of Huff Post, or better yet that Moveon is a right wing front <smile>.

Right wing spin on huffington post?... I'll try to keep my eyes open for that but honestly the idea never jumped out at me...

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You need to counter this by explaining the right wing spin of Huff Post, or better yet that Moveon is a right wing front <smile>.

Right wing spin on huffington post?... I'll try to keep my eyes open for that but honestly the idea never jumped out at me...

I think Barry managed to trick us younger folks (as in at least 15-20 years younger than him). I think I know what he meant, but tiredness on my part and possible mild sarcasm on his ... .

And the Huff post fits a standard read of 'left wing spin'. My point though was that from an adequately left wing perspective, the Huff post would simply appear to be less right wing than say the Washington Post which would seem less right wing than the Washington Times. Similarly, with an adequately right wing perspective, Faux news simply seems less left wing than the Washington Post. Thus, given the perspective of some on the right wing, nearly everything written has a left wing spin.

The articles I've read online from Huff Post seem to the left. (Funny, since it and others are owned by corporations or individual 1%ers.) This would fit the right-wing spin, that much of the media spins left. Am I making sense yet? :)

"...that depends on what the definition of "is" is."
Lol, classic lawyer talk. (seriously though, the guy was on trial for getting a bj, that's not fair)

The original act should have been between Bill, Hillary, Monica and few others. It should never have gone to the levels it did. But since it did, Bill's double-talk was disgusting. How anyone could trust Al Gore or Hillary after that, when they did not distance himself from him, I do not know. It proved they were opportunists.

Once Bill lost his pretrial with Paula Jones and had to testify, only a dad blame fool would not have settled. A sorry would have made it all go away. Being a "lawyer" he had to know he would be deposed and asked the question. How the hell did he ever get his law degree, or does he represent the average lawyer?

I did not recall what happened with the Paula Jones trial. I think I do remember it did go beyond the rumors heard during the '92 campaign, though.

I could be wrong, but I do not think it speaks to his intelligence.
I think it speaks volumes about his wisdom and his opportunism.

Yes, maybe a "Sorry" to Paula Jones would have gone a long way.

I just think it was sad that Ken Starr went after Clinton the way he did. Sadder still that Clinton denied. Worst of all, that he played games with words, like the lawyer he is, only in the end to admit it had indeed happened. Clinton didn't just play those games with his accusers, he played the game with the entire country.

And, ironically, Gingrich was involved in similar philandering at the same time.

Hope you all are well rested after Monday.
Here's a topic I really wanted discussed.

Again, the main issue is, Zimmerman was told in training and during his phone call to authorities NOT to get out, pursue or confront.

Next, on further reflection, just because Zimmerman is of mixed race does not mean he cannot be racist. (Whether he is or not is not for me to decide.) In the mid-90s, I taught at a school for emotionally disturbed teens, but it also included teens deemed PINS (person in need of supervision). It as a step or two below juvenile hall. Some of these teens were multiracial. Some of that group had ambivalent feelings about their heritage. Some identified more with a particular race. Could they have had racist thoughts?

less willing to invest themselves in their jobs for their employers

Caught it before deleted/modified.

No Health Insurance for Employees. Why not? When Employees stop smoking; swilling liquor/Drugs; getting No Exercise; are Not Fat; and Stop All Other Health Debilitating Habits, Maybe, Health Insurance could be provided.

Until then: Drink, Smoke, Be Fat and Out-of-Shape, and Not Insured.

WayOverWeightDullNanDO

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Well, after all, it is a police state, what would you expect?

Zimmerman may actually believe that. Whether or not he does, that is the position he must maintain here.

That being said, typically it is pretty bad defense tactics to go on record -- it opens up the prosecution to all sorts of tactics.

Zimmerman may actually believe that. Whether or not he does, that is the position he must maintain here.

That being said, typically it is pretty bad defense tactics to go on record -- it opens up the prosecution to all sorts of tactics.

He knows he is going away. He is now just getting together the last of the cash he can for the wife before he rots.

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If Zimmerman

hadn't shot and killed Trayvon Martin, he would have been killed by Trayvon Martin

, in an act of self-defense on the part of Martin?