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Uli Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1 |
I can give you a few hints why school turned me off. I was party to a system change in the German Schools. Teacher liked the ruler, Why me and not my sister is up to debate. Excuse was my hand writing was sloppy. Then I wanted to go to an All Girls school. Niped in the butt, by my Granddad. I was forced to help a very deranged individual, who killed his parents. WK, the first time I became aware of your son affliction was from a friend. On the upside here, Cerebral Palssy victims Have longer life span. All said I have mostly A and B Pluto will always be a planet to me. Seti Ambassador Not to late to order an Anni Shirt |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Now this is a surprise, Atheism to be taught to Irish schoolchildren That'll be a fairly short lesson. "Hello, come in. There is no god. ... Same time, next week" I believe Andy Parsons originally made this joke. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I'm not going to give you published examples. I have to live, some of the time, with one my 30+ year old Autistic son. You're not telling me much. 30+ could mean 39, which means not all that much younger than me, and so the changes I described would have had none to little impact on him (if any, maybe 3-6 years). You haven't mentioned where on the spectrum he is. Does not Bill Gates have Aspberger's? At the university, if I have a legally blind student, I *must* (LEGALLY!!!) find ways to work with such students. And I have. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
My son is as I said 30+, now to describe ages approximately I would also use mid-40's or approaching 50. The short answer from the tests, I have paid for recently, so that he is able to still claim incapacity (now called Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)) and disability benefits, put his mental capabilities about the same as an 11 year old. I don't think Bill Gates has autism, and although you cannot see it, for those in the UK Brian Cox's new program Science Britannica in episode 2. Method and Madness there is a comparison between those with Autism and scientists. In some aspects they are not that far apart. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
I have never believed that phonics helped English speakers to learn how to read all that much. Primarily, this is because English is not phonetically spelled. The problem is that we have 24 vowel sounds due to our diphthongs (ae, oe, ou ai etc). For instance GHOTI could easily be pronounced as "FISH" gh is F as in enough o is I as in women ti is SH as in action languages such as Farsi and Hebrew which are phonetically spelled don't usually even write their short vowels and they have only a handful. In my learning to read Farsi I was only confused by the fact that in Teheran they used a bit of slang pronunciations e.g. NAN (bread) was pronounced as NOON and SHISH (six) was pronounced as SHEESH. I am not a linguist but I almost married one. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Reading that link, my son is a mixture of their explanations, the whole subject of autism is complex and having spoken to many people about it I don't think there are any clear definitions to classify most suffers. And I have mentioned it before but I have a brother-in-law who is a psychiatrist, although now he is semi-retired and over the other side of the pond. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Autism often gets mixed up with Aspergers, and as I said earlier needs expert diagnosis. Autism Autism spectrum includes Aspberger's. Does Bill Gates have Aspberger's? Chris, I would not have discussed it further if he had not brought it up. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
[quote]Children should not start formal school lessons until the age of six or seven, a group of educationalists has said. I have never heard such poppycock! We all know that the majority of kids born today in the UK are either mistakes on a Saturday night after the pub, or deliberate meal tickets. ... Go into any city centre in the UK and see how many women pushing buggys around have a ring on their left hand. VIRTUALLY NONE OF THEM!! Very few kids today are born wanted, into a stable family unit.[quote] My such vitriolic hatred. The only thing you missed was saying what race the kids are, but I suspect you are using socioeconomic status to mask that. Now Chris, tell me how many of those women pushing the buggy are the hired nanny? Tell me how many of them reject male ownership of women and the requirement to advertise they are owned? Tell me how many of them had a husband that beat them regularly? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
What this says about UK public schools I'm not sure. It could be that the majority of these people were above average intelligence anyway. But if that is the case, before the introduction of Comprehensive schools they would probably have been selected to go to Grammar/High schools and done just as well. But it does indicate that a better education system would improve the chances of a large section of the population. And that would not only help them but would help the country. Special report: Under Margaret Thatcher’s abolished assisted places scheme, working-class pupils went to private schools - how did they get on? £90,000 a year is over twice the national average household income. |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Tell me how many of them reject male ownership of women and the requirement to advertise they are owned? If the man wears a ring does that mean he's owned by the woman? Or is that implicit in marriage anyway? (I wouldn't know, i'm not married, and have no intention of becoming so.) Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
It would appear that the race to the bottom, caused by the change to comprehensive schools, hasn't stopped yet. England's young people near bottom of global league table for basic skills England is the only country in the developed world where the generation approaching retirement is more literate and numerate than the youngest, according to the first skills survey by the OECD. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
+1 It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22203 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Chris - you forgot the "Its my right to <insert today's whine>" Obviously the answer depends on the whine, but always goes along the lines "You need to ear that "right" by hard work... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
You wish - innit! Cos, ain't and innit, fair enough. Like, has correct uses, so banning it could be a little extreme. Extra and Bare, since when are they slang? Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
His words not mine. Glenn Beck worked himself into a tirade on his talk show Wednesday, telling his large and worshipful audience to push their children into walls. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/15/glenn-beck-advice_n_4097877.html _______________________________ The universe wastes nothing, it's simply transferred. Lynn |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
His words not mine. Thanks that this m*********ing j*****s m*********er was NOT my father. Thanks for all the fathers out there who know how to "push" in the right ways without needing a j*****s m*********er like Glenn Beck to give parenting advice. (This is the same moronic j*****s m*********er who thinks English of the 1770-1780s was so different that we need someone to translate the Declaration of Indepedence and Constitution for us! Hey, j*****s m*********er Glenn Beck: big hint! That larger scripty B thingy? That's a double S, from the Germanic influence. That's about the only thing that would confuse people. Now, go try reading Shakespeare or Chaucer. THAT, we could use translations of, from Olde and Middle English. Ya j*****s m*********er.) And if YOU (the general reader) don't like my post? Too bad. Ya just got PUSHED. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
As he's a Mormon It is true Beck is Mormon (as is Romney). Honestly, though, I attended high school with a Mormon guy. He was smart, a talented bass player and usually nice. I grew up about a mile from a Mormon family. They, too, were nice. So, what is it making Beck talk the way he does? I can't believe it's just religious affiliation. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
So, what is it making Beck talk the way he does? I can't believe it's just religious affiliation. Maybe he has his brains between his legs rather than his ears? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So, what is it making Beck talk the way he does? I can't believe it's just religious affiliation. Could be he is smelling his own words? |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Maybe he's just a prat? (That's as strong as i can go without being hosed by the mods) Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
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