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Message 1217309 - Posted: 12 Apr 2012, 16:16:39 UTC - in response to Message 1217285.  

If fully enforced, with no increase in life span, the Chinese population would have flattened out for sure. Instead, Chinese population is growing at a slight rate (the population of India now exceeds that of China). A large part of that is that the Chinese are living longer -- which actually stresses demographic issues even more.

But Chinese population hasn't been 'booming' for decades.


Crazy. But I'm confused how has their population boomed then? If this rule was enforced and followed, wouldn't china's population have halved by now instead of grown?

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Message 1217389 - Posted: 12 Apr 2012, 20:18:39 UTC

Are you able to touch your end?

If not, then the end is not near!
It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues



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Message 1217561 - Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 5:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 1217309.  

If fully enforced, with no increase in life span, the Chinese population would have flattened out for sure. Instead, Chinese population is growing at a slight rate (the population of India now exceeds that of China). A large part of that is that the Chinese are living longer -- which actually stresses demographic issues even more.

But Chinese population hasn't been 'booming' for decades.

I learned about this policy some twenty years ago so yes it's correct to say the results wouldn't be realized yet for some time.
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Message 1217602 - Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 9:47:28 UTC - in response to Message 1217561.  

The policy was that only one child would be allowed education. I don't know if that is still or ever was enforced. The rumors were that a lot of female conceptions were aborted or worse.
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Message 1217780 - Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 19:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 1217602.  

Not just rumor. The Male to Female ratio in China is over 1.1 to 1.

The policy was that only one child would be allowed education. I don't know if that is still or ever was enforced. The rumors were that a lot of female conceptions were aborted or worse.

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Message 1217789 - Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 20:20:34 UTC

I believe this thread is regarding the economical & political situation in Europe.

To continue debating Asia, start an Asia thread please.
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Message 1217792 - Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 20:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 1217789.  

Fair enough, though if China is unable to fund the Euro, it would have an effect..

I believe this thread is regarding the economical & political situation in Europe.

To continue debating Asia, start an Asia thread please.

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Message 1217801 - Posted: 13 Apr 2012, 20:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 1217792.  

Fair enough, though if China is unable to fund the Euro, it would have an effect..

I believe this thread is regarding the economical & political situation in Europe.

To continue debating Asia, start an Asia thread please.



Fair point. China with it's political, military, economical & population issues far exceed the scope of this thread, hence it should have it's own dedicated one.
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Message 1219061 - Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 8:11:18 UTC

Getting closer by the minute......

Time to Turn Left, Go Straight On or Turn Right

Personally, I hope it's a right turn as that will definitely kill off the Euro.
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Message 1219137 - Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 12:45:21 UTC

The "Glorious" 70's

"Sailor Ted, however, soon ran aground, his ship scuppered by the lethal combination of an energy crisis, a financial crash and a second miners' strike in two years.

And though Labour's Harold Wilson got the country back to work, it came at the price of inflation at almost 30% and a humiliating bailout from the IMF."

Not much has changed then in 4 decades......they kicked sailer Ted off the helm, but the silly billies left the ship floundering.
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Message 1220689 - Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 17:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 1219140.  

And though Labour's Harold Wilson got the country back to work,




Was a great ad campaign, shame that the Conservative government that replaced Labour in 1979 only added to the queues, see figure 1 of www.landecon.cam.ac.uk/research/reuag/ccepp/publications/WP07-05.pdf. Unemployment was on its way down in 1979 from a peak in 1978. Unemployment finally returned to 1970s levels under Blair's Labour government.

Oh, and Wilson's second term as PM was 1974 to 1976, he was succeeded James Callaghan.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1220695 - Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 18:04:00 UTC - in response to Message 1220689.  
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Was a great ad campaign, shame that the Conservative government that replaced Labour in 1979 only added to the queues, see figure 1 of www.landecon.cam.ac.uk/research/reuag/ccepp/publications/WP07-05.pdf. Unemployment was on its way down in 1979 from a peak in 1978. Unemployment finally returned to 1970s levels under Blair's Labour government.

Oh, and Wilson's second term as PM was 1974 to 1976, he was succeeded James Callaghan.


"Since the 1980s, rising and persistent unemployment in the UK has been fostered by two key changes: first, financial deregulation in the 1980s and second, the accelerating pace of computerisation in the 1990s.

In this paper we argue that the conjunction of technological advances and financial deregulation has led to a shift towards increased capital gearing, increasing firms’ mark-ups over unit labour costs and thereby contributing to rises in unemployment. We develop a model of the relationships between computerisation, financial dereg7ulation and unemployment, and estimate it using a vector error correction techniques and UK unemployment data."

Coming from Cambridge University, you would think that these "highly educated" toffs would proof read their papers before publication.
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Message 1220819 - Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 23:14:04 UTC

Getting closer.............

Anger over £10 billion to IMF

Didn't inform Parliament? So we are now offically a dictatorship rather than a democracy!

How long before it will happen? Instead of a 5 year term, it becomes a 10 year term......
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Message 1221219 - Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 13:13:10 UTC - in response to Message 1221184.  

Now on that, I've gotta agree 100%. Unfortunately, I think we've been heading in this direction for the last 2 decades blindfolded.
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Message 1221228 - Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 13:35:20 UTC

Then again who owns and runs most of the press and media in the UK? Is this a long term plan to undermine UK democracy, overturn parliament, and create a Republic?


About the only thing left to flog to the electorate to make them believe all
would be better if we were a "Republic".


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Message 1221308 - Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 18:51:48 UTC - in response to Message 1221305.  

Sorry Nick I have to disagree. The UK has always been a Monarchy and that is the status quo that the people wish to continue with. The Queen is respected throughout the world and always has been. One day Prince Charles will be King, but he won't be a popular Monarch and I think he knows that. However when William and Kate finally take over, I think you will find that there will be a surge in popularity for our way of life.

It might make some sense in Australia if the people were to vote for it, but going for independence or becoming Republics is almost always at the behest of politicians or others, who see their power base increasing in that eventuality. The wishes of the people usually come second.



Which is why it MAY happen if our politicians continue the way they do. Don't forget, this was widely mentioned during the B-liar years.
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Message 1221325 - Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 19:29:33 UTC

Sorry Nick I have to disagree. The UK has always been a Monarchy and that is the status quo that the people wish to continue with.


Perhaps some egoistic politicians may try this Republic line on when Charles
takes the thrown. But providing he's not on it too long then William will come
along and everyone will kick the republic idea into touch...any support for it
would be lost.


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Message 1221360 - Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 20:32:14 UTC
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I will happily agree with that view....

Oh well, Chris....what we gonna talk about now then..??
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Message 1221362 - Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 20:33:44 UTC - in response to Message 1221360.  

I will happily agree with that view....

Oh well, Chris....what we gonna talk about now then..??


Gang up on Sirius for reading the daily mail.....has potential
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Message 1221363 - Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 20:34:00 UTC - in response to Message 1221305.  

Sorry Nick I have to disagree. The UK has always been a Monarchy and that is the status quo that the people wish to continue with.


Always? There's a statue outside of the HoP of a leader of England that did not serve under a monarch. Not all the people of the UK wish the status quo to continue, some are members of Republic.



I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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