I've heard they actually DO exist. However, finding them is like looking for a needle in a hay stack

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I've heard they actually DO exist. However, finding them is like looking for a needle in a hay stack

According to their website, Newegg Canada has Jaton PCI 9500GT's in stock.

Unfortunately for the rest of us they don't ship internationally either :-P

T.A.

Thanks for info, now the question is how HD4650 AGP performance relared to 9500GT PCI (of course, not manufacturer peak flops interesting, but real performance on SETI MultiBeam, only on it ;) ).

I can collect price data, but maybe someone could supply (at least rough) possible performance data? I understand that hardly anyone here running AGP and PCI cards, but maybe relative performance for their PCI-E counterparts at least?

I can collect price data, but maybe someone could supply (at least rough) possible performance data? I understand that hardly anyone here running AGP and PCI cards, but maybe relative performance for their PCI-E counterparts at least?

I have used several PCI-E 9500GT cards for MB, and I was getting about 1000 RAC out of each of them using optimized apps, if I remember correctly. I think they did a normal WU in about an hour and a half, maybe a little less.

Raistmer

I am running 2 x PCI 9500GTs (Sparkle) on an old dual P3 server. I cannot give you performance here but I can link to my P3 on PrimeGrid here

These are currently crunching PPSsieve as can be seen here. The work is currently being crunched in about 13,000 seconds on the GPUs, and give me an RAC of 59.5K.

I hope this gives you some basis to work out how they would fare for MB, etc.

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Got my self that PCI 8400 GS, it's now crunching in Seti on my XP3200 host, and it OpenCL capable. :-)

Claggy

Got my self that PCI 8400 GS, it's now crunching in Seti on my XP3200 host, and it OpenCL capable. :-)

Claggy

After a long many months looking for them ...

I managed to purchase another pair of NV 9500GT PCI 1GB cards for the dual Xeon with an HD3850 in the AGP slot. These should be with me soon, as I just received the FedEx tracking number.

This was at Pinnacle Micro, who have a UK telephone number and web site.

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I had hoped to get the 8400 GS crunching on my PIII, but Motherboard/BIOS doesn't see VGA Card, just get Bios error beeps, back to Plan B then,

Claggy

I searched the web and it look like the 7800GS was the last/highest AGP slot grafic card.

CUDA only possible 8xxx series and higher. So min PCI slot.


What you would like to do? ;-)


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wrong 7950GT was the last Nvidia for AGP ;) but ok it changes nothing to the cuda thing ^^


Use AGP Radeon 3850 or 4670(?) with third party ATI Apps. this works ;)

But the PCI Idea is new to me, so i will try too perhaps :) Does it runs on a board with allready 2 PCIe GPUs? so that i have 3 GPUs? (2 PCIe + 1 or 2 in PCI?)

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But the PCI Idea is new to me, so i will try too perhaps :) Does it runs on a board with allready 2 PCIe GPUs? so that i have 3 GPUs? (2 PCIe + 1 or 2 in PCI?)

I think the definitive answer is no.

PCI cards will not run in PCI-E expansion slots, as I understand. That is why I have spent so much time trying to purchase PCI CUDA capable graphics cards.

I am sure others will correct me if this is not correct.

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But the PCI Idea is new to me, so i will try too perhaps :) Does it runs on a board with allready 2 PCIe GPUs? so that i have 3 GPUs? (2 PCIe + 1 or 2 in PCI?)

I think the definitive answer is no.

PCI cards will not run in PCI-E expansion slots, as I understand. That is why I have spent so much time trying to purchase PCI CUDA capable graphics cards.

I am sure others will correct me if this is not correct.

He wouldn't like to push a PCI card in a PCIe slot. ;-)

He would like to let run PCIe and PCI cards side by side.

I guess - if you have already non Fermi GPUs (because 1 WU/GPU) - you could let run also PCI cards in the machine.
[EDIT: Or the below mentioned GT430 could run 2(+) WUs/GPU, then also with Fermi GPUs.]

But IIRC from what I read, only nVIDIAs in one machine. The newer nVIDIA drivers 'suppress' ATI/AMD cards, so they can't be used also.
Only an older nVIDIA driver allow also ATI/AMD cards.
Or only ATI/AMD cards in one machine.


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I searched the web and found randomly something interesting..

ZOTAC GeForce GT430 (PCI) [GF108 based on Fermi chip]

Club 3D HD5450 PCI Edition


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I searched the web and found randomly something interesting..

ZOTAC GeForce GT430 (PCI) [GF108 based on Fermi chip]

Club 3D HD5450 PCI Edition


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What stores offer such GPUs?
Maybe, it's just typos ?

What stores offer such GPUs?
Maybe, it's just typos ?

alternate.de /PCI cards overview

If I click to the GPUs and look to the connectors it's PCI.

Club 3D HD5450 PCI Edition
ZOTAC GeForce GT430


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I searched the web and found randomly something interesting..

ZOTAC GeForce GT430 (PCI) [GF108 based on Fermi chip]

Club 3D HD5450 PCI Edition


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What stores offer such GPUs?
Maybe, it's just typos ?

The 430 is PCI-E, but the 5450 is a PCI card.
http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-5450-pci-noiseless-edition.html

I checked some of the links on where to buy but did not see the card.

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What stores offer such GPUs?
Maybe, it's just typos ?

alternate.de /PCI cards overview

If I click to the GPUs and look to the connectors it's PCI.

Club 3D HD5450 PCI Edition
ZOTAC GeForce GT430


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Wow good find. The pictures do defiantly show universal 3.3/5v conventional PCI connectors on those cards. I don't think I would want one for gaming, but for S@H use probably work fine.

You will be first to buy one to test/benchmark for us? :)

Also here is the PCI card on the Zotac website.

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What stores offer such GPUs?
Maybe, it's just typos ?

alternate.de /PCI cards overview

If I click to the GPUs and look to the connectors it's PCI.

Club 3D HD5450 PCI Edition
ZOTAC GeForce GT430


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Wow good find. The pictures do defiantly show universal 3.3/5v conventional PCI connectors on those cards. I don't think I would want one for gaming, but for S@H use probably work fine.

You will be first to buy one to test/benchmark for us? :)

Also here is the PCI card on the Zotac website.

Not available in the US though.

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But IIRC from what I read, only nVIDIAs in one machine. The newer nVIDIA drivers 'suppress' ATI/AMD cards, so they can't be used also.
Only an older nVIDIA driver allow also ATI/AMD cards.
Or only ATI/AMD cards in one machine.

I currently run a dual P3, under W2K, all using a PCI bus.

The primary graphics slot is occupied by an ATI 7000 series card which deals with the server graphics but no crunching. The 2 x Sparkle PCI 1GB NV 9500GT graphics cards, using the older 258.96 driver, are crunching PrimeGrid, when the server is running.

In view of the information above, when I get the Jaton PCI 1GB 9500GTs delivered (still waiting), then I will also use the 258.96 drivers.

I have 2 x quads with empty PCI-E expansion slots. Both have ATI HD58xx cards as the primary GPU.

At a later date (say 6 months +, assuming I have the funds) I plan to upgrade the PSU (say 1250W) and place either NV GTX460, GTX560Ti or GTX570 cards in the other PCI-E slots and leaving the ATI HD58xx crunching as well. (Just a plan, maybe).

I assume I can put one x NV GTX5xx in a PCI-E x 16 or x8 expansion slot, and making use of the 266.xx drivers be able to run the ATI and NV GPUs in parallel, each make on different projects. Or am I just whistling in the wind?

I should add that the dual Xeon server (32bit), with the PCI (x2) and PCI-X (x2) expansion slots is running under XP pro. So, the 258.96 driver will be for XP 32bit.

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Wow good find. The pictures do defiantly show universal 3.3/5v conventional PCI connectors on those cards. I don't think I would want one for gaming, but for S@H use probably work fine.

You will be first to buy one to test/benchmark for us? :)

Also here is the PCI card on the Zotac website.

Ohh.. no.. I have enough equipment here laying around.. ;-)
A few more GPUs (GTX2xx) which was never online until now..

OTOH, IIRC, my AMD Athlon64 3200+ have a 5x PCI slot mobo.
But I guess 5 CUDA WUs are too much for an (so slowly) one thread CPU.
Or if 2 WUs/GPU, then 10 CUDA WUs simultaneously..


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What stores offer such GPUs?
Maybe, it's just typos ?

alternate.de /PCI cards overview

If I click to the GPUs and look to the connectors it's PCI.

Club 3D HD5450 PCI Edition
ZOTAC GeForce GT430


- Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. -

Wow good find. The pictures do defiantly show universal 3.3/5v conventional PCI connectors on those cards. I don't think I would want one for gaming, but for S@H use probably work fine.

You will be first to buy one to test/benchmark for us? :)

Also here is the PCI card on the Zotac website.

Not available in the US though.

Searching the internet I can only find it listed on German & Swiss retail sites. However I think it is new. As a lot of them have June 2011 date for when they started listing it.

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