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Message 1090504 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 2:32:20 UTC

I am thinking about building a WHS computer and was wondering if it will do seti and also use magicjack device.
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Message 1090512 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 2:47:28 UTC
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The original Windows Home Server is based on Windows Server 2003, but Windows Home Server 2011 is based off of Windows Server 2008 R2. Other then limiting things such as memory usage & number of physical processors I don't see why you would be unable to use and standards software with them. Such as BOINC or whatever software magic jack requires.
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Message 1090516 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 2:52:56 UTC

I was considering this from Amazon "Microsoft Windows Home Server System Builder with URP1" I don't know which version this is. From what I have seen on the internet they have problems with magicjack such asyou have to install it on another computer first then onto WHS but no mention with seti.
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Message 1090519 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 3:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 1090516.  
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I was considering this from Amazon "Microsoft Windows Home Server System Builder with URP1" I don't know which version this is. From what I have seen on the internet they have problems with magicjack such asyou have to install it on another computer first then onto WHS but no mention with seti.


There was a plugin used with WHS that allowed you to view your stats, current workunits and all that with it installed as a WHS plugin,mod, or whatever they call it.

Just login with RemoteDesktop when you have it up and running and install Boinc just like you any other computer. Oh BTW awesome forum to help you with figuring this stuff out: http://forum.wegotserved.com/
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Message 1090520 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 3:04:11 UTC - in response to Message 1090516.  

I was considering this from Amazon "Microsoft Windows Home Server System Builder with URP1" I don't know which version this is. From what I have seen on the internet they have problems with magicjack such asyou have to install it on another computer first then onto WHS but no mention with seti.

That is WHS with Power Pack 1. "Power Packs" are much like service packs, but they gave it a "new & exciting" name for home server. Currently PP3 is out which you would be able to update to.

WHS 2011 hasn't been released just yet. It is scheduled for 1st Half of 2011. Which means it could be end of June.

They only support non server OS's, but as it works with XP it should work fine. There might just be some tweak you need to do.
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Message 1090534 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 3:53:43 UTC

I have Win 7 and I downloaded a trial version of whs with pp3.
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Message 1090559 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 6:34:31 UTC - in response to Message 1090534.  

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i have been running SETI with WHS (V1) PP3 for a long time and it works fine

if there is a pcie slot for a gpu in the Amazon pc then you can crunch with that as well - just dont login with remote desktop or you will trash your gpu work units on the gpu as the remote desktop uses its own graphics drivers instead of nvidia's - use something else like TeamViewer or VNC - the management console is fine also for checking on the server - if just using seti for cpu tasks then remote desktop is fine and for installing software if you are running whs head less

V1 is based on 2003 server 32bit - if you look on the Nvidia site you will not find 32bit 2003 drivers - but the 32bit xp ones work fine

if you are going to just run cpu tasks one thing to be aware of in V1 is that every hour it runs a process to check all the drives and data which hogs the cpu for a few minutes - the length of time this runs depends on the amount of data you have and the speed of the cpu- mine lasts for 10 -20 minutes - i would leave a cpu thread free for this.

As mine is a home built version i run it with a P4 D which is slow and only has two threads so i leave the host just running GPU tasks

As for the plugin for SETI - did not know one existed but i use BoincTasks to check up on progress

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Message 1090565 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 6:58:39 UTC - in response to Message 1090559.  

just dont login with remote desktop or you will trash your gpu work units on the gpu as the remote desktop uses its own graphics drivers instead of nvidia's - use something else like TeamViewer or VNC - the management console is fine also for checking on the server - if just using seti for cpu tasks then remote desktop is fine and for installing software if you are running whs head less


Weird mine only disables the GPU until I reboot boinc, it never trashes them. Just doesn't let them compute until a usable processor shows back up. Point stands though as it does mess with the flow at the very least. Guess I could have added that in but I wasn't thinking about video crunching as most bought WHS don't have GPU's in them, most have onboard.

WHS is very handy, I just never trusted the storage system much, that's why I ended up ditching it once the beta was over and moved back to Server 2003, then 2008, and now 2008R2. You can achieve all the same things just with a bit more work. ;) But for the average home user it's perfect! Marvelous thing, especially when paired up with a media center pc and streaming around the house.
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Message 1090570 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 7:38:51 UTC - in response to Message 1090565.  

Yes sorry you are right it suspends them as no usable gpu is found rather than trashing them - my bad as its been a very long time since i used it

WHS V1 is very reliable in my experience

as for WHS 2011 - yuk they have made a complete mess of it and there is now no compelling reason to upgrade in my opinion - as they have taken features out (big fail) and are pushing RAID onto the home user rather than with V1 which did all the "magic" behind the scenes to keep it simple for a non techy user

I had high hopes for it but will now not touch it with a 50ft pole! :)
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Message 1090591 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 10:50:37 UTC

The machine will use asus p5n-e sli motherboard it had a q6600 cpu but it died and now has a celeron which is slow I should replace it, a 210 nivida gpu and ocz memory. It was my cruncher before the q6600 died in it. I replaced the machine with my i7 and I left it unused but I will use it to run seti and as a whs and as a phone server and apache or iis if iis works good or if it has iis. Has any one ever heard of Asterisk (PBX)? I read an article in maxiumpc about building your own phone server with asterisk and using google voice but if astrisk doesn't work I will use the magicjack.
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Message 1090593 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 11:47:57 UTC

It's rumoured that SBS 2011 & WHS 2011 will be released on 30th March.

Currently running WHS 2011 RC & it's crunching away with no problems.

Stablebit & Drivebender are currently working on a replacement for Drive Emigrator(DE) which is what made WHS v1 popular.

No further news of Stablebit's offering but Drivebender has just released it's 2nd beta.

Should Stablebit & Drivebender both fail, then I will definitely not be using the RTM of WHS 2011 & will restart v1 & use the test rig for SBS 2011 Essentials (25 users with no CAL's required).
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Message 1090595 - Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 13:00:10 UTC

one of my clients uses magic jack, and i recently had him start helping with his cpu, as he has a ok one. (phenom 2x4 965 black edition @4.0ghz w/a rifle (push pull setup) from coolermaster, to keep heat to a minimum.)
i haven't ever used WHS, but if its based on nt, then you shouldn't have any problems at all running magic jack, and seti. remember, magic jack is a ppoe device, so its completely determined by your internet connection.

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