is there a code problem that could be causing this?

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If you don't mind:

1. If a WU is listed as having been validated, shouldn't the numbers
returned from the WU be regarded as being valid as well?

2. If the gaussian part of the WU (where available) for some reason is of
interest (to the scientists) perhaps because due to the score, isn't then
this number a result or factor derived from the other parts of the result
(like the pulses)?

3. If most results return a gaussian score, in which way are you able to tell
whether it is "intelligent" - or represents "intelligence"?

4. Are there any other numbers out there which may in fact not be visible and
which therefore either needs a guess or some other way or means of
calculation?

Make a guess!

is there a code problem that could be causing this?

Good Question. I have the same Problem since the last Outage.
Now over 1,500 inconclusive Results. On one Rig 870 Results with
no consensus...

Helli

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is there a code problem that could be causing this?

Good Question. I have the same Problem since the last Outage.
Now over 1,500 inconclusive Results. On one Rig 870 Results with
no consensus...

Helli

I find the Completed but no concences yet, one of the most disturbing 'answers', one can get.

Lucky, except for a number (~10)MB WU's, which crashed during a test with 2 ATI
GPU's, a 4850 & 5870 and SDK 2.3! (Even DNETC WU's crashed!), I haven't seen faults or Completed, but outcome is inconclusive, and/or invalid results.
Which ought to be the case, specially when one OC's, drive hardware to the (bleeding) edge ;-) and use Optimized (SSSE3x optimized CPU and running 2 MB's per FERMI (470&480), also optimized CUDA!.

Just has to turn the ATI cruncher, which does MW atm., down cause temps of the CPU were at 104C(!) and 92C for both cards. (58C for the Mobo).It doesn't throthle back yet, at > 105C it starts throthling back!
Something has to be wrong with the cooler and contact with the CPU, in this case!

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The question is not why, the question is why are the amount of
this pending Workunits is much higher than a week before...

Helli

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Had a look at my pending, since a long time, but it is high, to what I was used to, before the Great Outage

Pending credit: 141,893.91 , with an 'average' of 100 Cobblestones.
Mostly MB and a few AP WU's. Which appeared to be Deleted from the tasklist, much earlier, then the MB WU Results.

Probably a good reason for this. I'm glad having crunched a lot of AstroPulse
WU's on CPU for some time, cause they are needed(if a host GPU does mess up!), or for checking AP WU's, crunched with an ATI GPU, safest is trying to achieve a [i]Connincal Result with a CPU!

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Had a look at my pending, since a long time, but it is high, to what I was used to, before the Great Outage

Pending credit: 141,893.91 , with an 'average' of 100 Cobblestones.
Mostly MB and a few AP WU's.

Mine is 179,623.16, which is much lower compared to my 800,000 before the outage. My pendings have been stable where they are ±5000 for quite awhile now.

Steve

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Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Yes, I'm seeing a lot (for me) of inconclusives but the answer lies in the results of you and your wingman. Most all of mine are -9s turned in by my wingman. All of mine so far have validated as the third wingman reports. Looking through them I see either people running new Fermi cards with the old V12 optimized package or older cards that are either going bad or are overheating. My bet is that most of the older cards could probably be fixed with a good dose of air in the right place to clean out the dust bunnies and the Fermi cards fixed with the proper app.. Only very seldom do I see my wingman with not quite similar results causing the resend and when I do it usually results in all three of us getting credit.

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Yes, I'm seeing a lot (for me) of inconclusives but the answer lies in the results of you and your wingman. Most all of mine are -9s turned in by my wingman. All of mine so far have validated as the third wingman reports. Looking through them I see either people running new Fermi cards with the old V12 optimized package or older cards that are either going bad or are overheating. My bet is that most of the older cards could probably be fixed with a good dose of air in the right place to clean out the dust bunnies and the Fermi cards fixed with the proper app.. Only very seldom do I see my wingman with not quite similar results causing the resend and when I do it usually results in all three of us getting credit.

Shouldn't those crunchers not get a message/E-Mail, they are running a wrong app., an outdated BOINC version, or both and Set and Forget Crunchurs obviously aren't aware of this, since a small group, compaired by the totals registered at SETI@Home, don't even access these Forums, unfortunatly?
This has also be adressed many many times, before!

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Did this WU / result / number (ever) validate?

"166","2009.08.07 15:55:14","18fe09aa.11168.24612.14.10.165_0_0","00:24:24","11.029090427932",
"0.52497408780278","11.058971425211","0.52427620684081","0.4482702364022",
"2454880.7327476","3.515450","131072","14",
"7703997.731361","-1.#IND","-1.#IND","0",
"2697727846455272800000000000000000.000000","2.6775204563417e+034",
"3.8600704669952","4",,,,"0"

Why a spike score of 3.515450 (power 131072) ? Was it due to a satellite?

Is the gaussian score really 7703997.731361 ? What is the corresponding numbers for power and fit?

I only get to 9.90 for the gaussian score on this new machine (as of now).

Thanks for telling me the answer!

The question is not why, the question is why are the amount of
this pending Workunits is much higher than a week before...

Helli

Global Warming!!!

we now have definitive proof of global warming!

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Shouldn't those crunchers not get a message/E-Mail, they are running a wrong app., an outdated BOINC version, or both and Set and Forget Crunchurs obviously aren't aware of this, since a small group, compaired by the totals registered at SETI@Home, don't even access these Forums, unfortunatly?
This has also be adressed many many times, before!

I have been sending PMs to those I catch but have yet to get an answer back from anyone. I have seen one person say they got a reply to a PM and I believe it was Richard that has seen several machines finally update to the new app. I guess those same "set and forget" crunchers also have their email notification turned off. All we can do is try.

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Well sine heat can't 'escape this planet', it is stored in the oceans and the 'rest' is accountable for our 'Climate', of what is left of it :\

But to reenter the TOPIC: I'm seeing a lot of "Completed, validation inconclusive" results for everyone, is alarming, well my opinion, but not what we want/expect!

If only 10% of the Set and Forget Poeple, were more aware of what's
going on and be active or just read The Forums, much would be gained!

I have a look at my 3 rigs, every day and usually use the LT* for 'communications'
*HP-Pavillion 8180nl; T4200CPU(2-core); 7400GT Graphics;17'' Broad View 1440x960.
Seen no inconcluse results, are other faults, apart some MB WU's crasht during a test with an ATI app. for MB from Lunatics, but even DNETC WU's chrashed.
So now doing MW, stil try another SETI MB & AP test?!?!

Need some very strong 'coffee'...

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I had a look at a few of those i have.
My wingman always had different results returned.
Most of them gets granted anyway.

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Mike,
I just had a quick look through the first couple of pages of your pendings. I found three or four Fermi cards using V12 and a 9600 you were paired with four or five times that was throwing out bad WUs. Those should get thrown out when the next wingman finishes. I only found two or three that had slightly different results from yours. Since they were only off by one spike or one Gaussian you will probably all three get credit for them.

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I dont worry about it.

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Aargh...59 Workunits finished Today - and my Wingman is 5357884 (V12 on Fermi). :-(

Helli

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How can you tell they are running V12 on fermi? I have a smallish number of workunits that are coming back as completed, inconclusive and I'm wondering how I can tell if the problem was on my end or on theirs. Like this unit for example: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=678277956

TIA

How can you tell they are running V12 on fermi? I have a smallish number of workunits that are coming back as completed, inconclusive and I'm wondering how I can tell if the problem was on my end or on theirs. Like this unit for example: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=678277956

TIA

Click on task link with the WU in question, in this case it's 1765781100. In the text it says it was an gtx 260 using the stock 6.09 app and not v12 on fermi.

How can you tell they are running V12 on fermi?
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Take a look at the Workunit 681892575:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah/workunit.php?wuid=681892575

If you click on the Task for Host 5357884 you can see the App that he used:

SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 460
V12 modification by Raistmer
Priority of worker thread rised successfully
Priority of process adjusted successfully
Total GPU memory 1041694720 free GPU memory 937103360
setiathome_enhanced 6.02 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++

Build features: Non-graphics CUDA VLAR autokill enabled FFTW USE_SSE x86

He is running the not FERMI combatible CUDA App on his GTX460

Helli

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