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1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Most electricians I've talked to won't wire up a 30A breaker to 120v as I've been told there are no 30A outlets(receptacles) and It would be unsafe as a result, possible fire danger I've been told. 120v 30a receptacles do exist. NEMA L5-30R (with NEMA L5-30P to match). They are twist locks, and aren't often seen in a residential setting. If you had a workshop, you might have a tool (compressor, large saw, planer) that could have an L5-30 plug. Larger UPSes have them as the UPS cannot draw more than 80% of the line capacity. |
Odan Send message Joined: 8 May 03 Posts: 91 Credit: 15,331,177 RAC: 0 |
Most electricians I've talked to won't wire up a 30A breaker to 120v as I've been told there are no 30A outlets(receptacles) and It would be unsafe as a result, possible fire danger I've been told. Yeah, quite right. I've never seen them used domestically in the US (though maybe they are somewhere) but I have supplied & used them in industrial applications in the USA. Clumsy great beasts but they work well. |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
And here is a residential RV 120V 30 amp that is not twist lock. I have installed many and some golf carts need them. 120 Volt 30 Amp non twist-lock Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
And here is a residential RV 120V 30 amp that is not twist lock. I have installed many and some golf carts need them. That looks just like the sockets we use in Canada for 240V appliances. |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
And here is a residential RV 120V 30 amp that is not twist lock. I have installed many and some golf carts need them. I know where I saw that, it's the same connection used on the motor home when we use shore power. The sad part is most of the time we have to use a converter and turn it into a standard 3 prong connection. On the converter we must be very careful how much we turn on or we will fry a converter or an outlet. Even when we plug in directly we are limited to one air conditioner. To run both we need to start the 6.5 kw generator. |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Hmmmm? LH 240V 20 & 30A, RH 120V 20 & 30A (inside my house, in the basement to be exact) ;) Comeon over, that way you can say you have seen it in person! *grins* |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Looks like the bottom twist lock is missing a screw for the cover...LOL Just notice things like that. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Heck the whole cover doesn't look like It's a match for the box as there is a gap that should not be there. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
The cover is fine that type never fits tight but fits better with both screws...I was just giving him a hard time, it actually looks very cool. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well... I see you are all having fun discussing electrical distribution. I am gonna try not to get too into my cups tonight and get up with enough ambition to get this done and get the crunchers back on the trail. Oh, my aching RAC. LOL...just gotta in this situation, don't do no good to cry. LOL. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
So little heat from the crippled farm right now, I actually had to fire up the furnace.. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
Maybe you could go all 'eco-friendly' and build a 'wind-farm'. On the other hand, how do you 'farm' wind....aside from having lots of people eat beans and produce Methane, which is then used to drive a generator, via a gas turbine? lol Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Maybe you could go all 'eco-friendly' and build a 'wind-farm'. On the other hand, how do you 'farm' wind....aside from having lots of people eat beans and produce Methane, which is then used to drive a generator, via a gas turbine? lol I don't think my wind would be enough to power the farm....LOL. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
Maybe you could go all 'eco-friendly' and build a 'wind-farm'. On the other hand, how do you 'farm' wind....aside from having lots of people eat beans and produce Methane, which is then used to drive a generator, via a gas turbine? lol LOL. Funny you mention it. I'm planning on giving my much smaller den a rewire to handle larger capacities as well as Mark. It involves building a wind turbine and some solar panels(link! to power the Core i7 system as well. It's always windy here - I'm on top of a hill and I live in New Zealand, perfect combination. LOL. - Luke. |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
Well... What are you complaining about? If I crunched nothing but SETI my RAC would be about 400. When you are up and running it would take over a year for me to do what you do in a day. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Maybe you could go all 'eco-friendly' and build a 'wind-farm'. On the other hand, how do you 'farm' wind....aside from having lots of people eat beans and produce Methane, which is then used to drive a generator, via a gas turbine? lol Hi Iona, Do We ever have wind around here, Gusts are hitting the mobilehome were ar 43mph, now their a bit lower at 36mph, The gusts are making Me buy an anchor kit and steel cables to secure the carport, As the gusts make Me nervous. This area has 4 wind turbines, 3 on private property and 1 giant one on the Marine base in Barstow CA($4 Million in cost to the taxpayers, Helps offset the bases electrical usage there when the wind blows in just a breeze(that's almost half the time around here), above a certain speed the turbine I'd expect would go into self preservation mode), It's quite a sight, The area could use more of those things as there's a few areas where they can be put where nothing lives(dry lakes) and over looking Barstow is good possibly too, As that's near where the big wind turbine is. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
It involves building a wind turbine and some solar panels(link! to power the Core i7 system as well. It's always windy here - I'm on top of a hill and I live in New Zealand, perfect combination. LOL. Now if you could work out a way to capture the methane from all those sheep... ;-P F. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Maybe you could go all 'eco-friendly' and build a 'wind-farm'. On the other hand, how do you 'farm' wind....aside from having lots of people eat beans and produce Methane, which is then used to drive a generator, via a gas turbine? lol I am not sure right now which technology has the upper hand as far as watt/dollar payback right now. I have read about massive solar cell farms being built....... And wind turbine farms are popping up all over the midwestern USA. I think the limiting factor at the moment might be the square footage required to set up a solar collection farm VS the smaller amount of land required to erect a large number of wind turbines. The other factor is the 'not in my backyard' mentality concerning the erection of the wind turbines.....there is some noise generated. Whereas a solar installation is rather benign except for the space required. And then there are the solar collection farms, which collect the heat energy and convert it to steam rather than directly to electricity via solar cells. As far as I am concerned, any and all such approaches are admirable. I had many years ago actually considered erecting a wind turbine on my back lot. Until I found that there were local ordinances in place that would have made it impossible for me to do so. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51477 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well... I know Hon...... I still hate it when I am not crunching up to my potential.... It's that manic depressive/OCD thingy....remember? LOL. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
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