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Message 973155 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 17:48:07 UTC - in response to Message 973135.  

Hey, Wait a minute! Nobody ever said that the packet loss we all see is THE problem, it might not even be a problem. For all I know, the packet loss may have been there before any of the current issues started.

Correct.
packet loss and slow traffic is what we see.
Just like a diagnostic in hospital, we see problems and we do more investigations.
I hope that somewhere we have ... Dr. House able to start a differential analysis.
We can only suggest more ideas ad do some test.

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Message 973201 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 19:23:31 UTC

Has everyone here seen the Saturday Night Live where William Shatner tells all the Trekkies to Get a Life, kiss a girl, etc. ???

Relax! Take a deep breath. Turn off BOINC and focus on something else.

I sincerely hope that this is not the most important thing in any of your lives (as some of you are making it sound to me). After all, none of these projects are about the data that is going back and forth between server and client. They are BIG PROJECTS that hopefully will benefit all humans some day (not today or next week). Don't act like SETI@Home is going to collapse if you leave. It will be fine, don't worry.

Now... Think positive for a moment.

When our computers run out of work, they will get a well deserved break!

BOINC projects will benefit from this in the future because it is times like this that lead to improvement (even if YOU don't ever see/feel it).
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Message 973208 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 19:36:39 UTC
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Not sure whatcha all are crying about. I just reported 37 results and downloaded 110 more tasks. Seems like everything is working fine...
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Message 973209 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 19:37:01 UTC - in response to Message 972899.  

No thank you, i already donate at least $6,ooo.oo a year in cpu time. they need to find appropriate funding, or just fold (pun intended). either i'm fine with, put just don't continue the way they are.


You must have terrible utility rates. I have double the number of computers running BOINC as you show, some at home and some at the office, and my combined utility expense, which includes non-BOINC things such as lights, TV, pool pump and refridgerator, barely tops $6,000 a year.



Holy ____, Batman! Where do you guys live? Are you talking US dollars?!?

I send less than $2000 to PECO (Philadelphia, PA) each year, and that includes heat, hot water, long showers/baths, etc.

What would you save if you didn't do any extra computing?

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Message 973252 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 20:24:13 UTC - in response to Message 972344.  

Ralf,
I was getting that message (only in english :-) ) on my machine too. I think you have to run the command prompt in administrater to get pathping to work in Vista or Windows 7.


You were right, thanks for your hint. I'll post the result in a moment.

Greetings

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Message 973256 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 20:28:57 UTC - in response to Message 973201.  

Relax! Take a deep breath. Turn off BOINC and focus on something else.

Nope. I just let BOINC work on some other project for a while. It would take a large number of projects being down before I notice much.


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Message 973258 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 20:31:33 UTC


Nope. I just let BOINC work on some other project for a while. It would take a large number of projects being down before I notice much.


Time to take notice again, the floodgates have opened.


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Message 973265 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 20:39:01 UTC

Upload still does not work.

So here are my results from Aachen in Germany:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
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C:\Windows\system32>pathping 208.68.240.16 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu

Routenverfolgung zu boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.13]
über maximal 30 Abschnitte:
  0  Ralf-PC [192.168.1.33]
  1  192.168.1.1
  2     *     rdsl-koln-de03.nw.mediaways.net [213.20.58.132]
  3  xmwc-koln-de01-chan-18.nw.mediaways.net [195.71.204.82]
  4  rmwc-koln-de02-gigaet-0-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [62.53.198.66]
  5  rmwc-dsdf-de02-ge-4-0-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [195.71.254.53]
  6  rmwc-dsdf-de01-chan-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [195.71.243.33]
  7  rmwc-frnk-de01-chan-3-0.nw.mediaways.net [195.71.254.145]
  8  xmws-frnk-de07-chan-2.nw.mediaways.net [213.20.249.202]
  9  de-cix.he.net [80.81.192.172]
 10  10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.par1.he.net [72.52.92.89]
 11  10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.lon1.he.net [72.52.92.33]
 12  10gigabitethernet4-4.core1.nyc4.he.net [72.52.92.241]
 13  10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.chi1.he.net [72.52.92.102]
 14  10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.92.73]
 15  10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.pao1.he.net [72.52.92.69]
 16  64.71.140.42
 17  208.68.243.254
 18  boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.13]

Berechnung der Statistiken dauert ca. 450 Sekunden...
            Quelle zum Abs.  Knoten/Verbindung
Abs. Zeit   Verl./Ges.=   %  Verl./Ges.=   %  Adresse
  0                                           Ralf-PC [192.168.1.33]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  1    0ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.1.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  2  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  rdsl-koln-de03.nw.mediaways.net [2
13.20.58.132]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  3   21ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  xmwc-koln-de01-chan-18.nw.mediaway
s.net [195.71.204.82]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  4   21ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  rmwc-koln-de02-gigaet-0-0-0.nw.med
iaways.net [62.53.198.66]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  5   23ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  rmwc-dsdf-de02-ge-4-0-0-0.nw.media
ways.net [195.71.254.53]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  6   26ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  rmwc-dsdf-de01-chan-0-0.nw.mediawa
ys.net [195.71.243.33]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  7   25ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  rmwc-frnk-de01-chan-3-0.nw.mediawa
ys.net [195.71.254.145]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  8   30ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  xmws-frnk-de07-chan-2.nw.mediaways
.net [213.20.249.202]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  9   31ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  de-cix.he.net [80.81.192.172]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 10   42ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.par1.he
.net [72.52.92.89]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 11   44ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.lon1.he
.net [72.52.92.33]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 12  112ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10gigabitethernet4-4.core1.nyc4.he
.net [72.52.92.241]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 13  133ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.chi1.he
.net [72.52.92.102]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 14  189ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.sjc2.he
.net [72.52.92.73]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 15  190ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.pao1.he
.net [72.52.92.69]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 16  195ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  64.71.140.42
                               13/ 100 = 13%   |
 17  254ms    18/ 100 = 18%     5/ 100 =  5%  208.68.243.254
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 18  261ms    13/ 100 = 13%     0/ 100 =  0%  boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.24
0.13]

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

C:\Windows\system32>

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Message 973279 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:03:19 UTC

All of my uploads came through now!

Thanks for your good work, SETI guys! I'm sure you shed some blood, sweat and tears!

Regards from Germany

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Message 973280 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:05:10 UTC

I just got 38 cuda tasks that all failed in 3 seconds. I hope this isn't something that is going to go on from all the downtime.
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Message 973281 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:09:15 UTC

Results are trickling through guys, excellent timing I had 3 WU's left on my Quad core!

Excellent work, you deserve a break now!

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Message 973283 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:11:02 UTC - in response to Message 973280.  

I just got 38 cuda tasks that all failed in 3 seconds. I hope this isn't something that is going to go on from all the downtime.

Just checked your hosts. Three of them have batches of ....

.... VLAR tasks.

You run the VLAR-killer application. You get VLAR. It kills them. That's what it does.
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Message 973285 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:12:14 UTC - in response to Message 973283.  

You beat me to it Richard, just checked the same thing.


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Message 973288 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:21:12 UTC

I am not killing off any tasks on this system. I finally seem to have gotten GPU tasks that are working correctly.
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Message 973293 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:27:18 UTC - in response to Message 973288.  

Brkovip,

You are running the optimized Apps, if you installed with the handy-dandy installer it probably gave you the VLAR-killer. When you see your work units giving a -6 error that is your VLAR-killer in action.


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Message 973298 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:42:16 UTC

Greetings,

My Linux box is all caught up! The upload queue is empty and all work reported.

My Windoze box is another story though. Some WUs are getting uploaded, but there are many more to go. And reporting is not going at all, for it.

But... All things being equal, and Windoze is far from being an equal to Linux, things are looking up. Work is flowing again! :)

To the SETI team: JOB WELL DONE! I said I was confidant that the issues would get resolved and it seems they are. Thanks guys!!! :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Message 973302 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 973298.  

Yes, I say again, WELL DONE!!! Bet we are really hammering the servers, hope we don't break anything else! :-)


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Message 973304 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:50:25 UTC

Have any of the path-pingers retried their packet loss counters

a) While SETI is running at maximum throughput
b) Tomorrow, while things are quiet during mainteance

Be good to get some 'normal case' reports over the same paths as the existing tests, to predict whether the technique will be any use during the next outage.
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Message 973305 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 21:53:16 UTC - in response to Message 973302.  

Yes, I say again, WELL DONE!!! Bet we are really hammering the servers, hope we don't break anything else! :-)

Yes, I agree. I still have 33 WUs, to upload, on my Windoze box. I'm hoping they can get here and get reported before all the "hammering" does indeed break something. ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Message 973308 - Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 22:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 973304.  

Have any of the path-pingers retried their packet loss counters

a) While SETI is running at maximum throughput
b) Tomorrow, while things are quiet during mainteance

Be good to get some 'normal case' reports over the same paths as the existing tests, to predict whether the technique will be any use during the next outage.


I wrote and scheduled a script that has been tracking pathping stats every hour since 2010-02-20 16:00 UTC. I may let it run through 2010-03-09 to get a feel for "normal".

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