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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Ok I just paid for an Intel i5 750 cpu that I won on ebay today, When I get It, It will be installed into the P7P55D Pro motherboard and I post a pic then. :D Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Also today I paid for another one of these pci-e x1 cards on ebay: To go with this mini pci-e card here(for My P5K Deluxe): Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Totally cool! It looks like your about to fire it up for the first time. I love the anticipation of fireing up a new build. When everything fires up, and the OS starts loading, the real fun begins. There is just so much you can do with a desktop that you can't with a laptop. I can see you have a lot of time and patience with your build. I hope it live up to all your expectations! Happy crunching! Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Totally cool! It looks like your about to fire it up for the first time. I love the anticipation of fireing up a new build. When everything fires up, and the OS starts loading, the real fun begins. There is just so much you can do with a desktop that you can't with a laptop. I can see you have a lot of time and patience with your build. I hope it live up to all your expectations! I only paid for the two parts today, I still have not received anything yet, As they've yet to ship. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Yes, but you are one step closer, with locking down the CPU. The rest is just a waiting game. I've been playing my waiting game for just about as long as yours. Slowly one thing after another falls into place. It's kind of like a video game. You start out with no weapons of shields, but as you progress through the game, you get the weapons and shields you need to win the game. Your build is impressive, and will do a lot of crunching. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Yes, but you are one step closer, with locking down the CPU. The rest is just a waiting game. I've been playing my waiting game for just about as long as yours. Slowly one thing after another falls into place. It's kind of like a video game. You start out with no weapons of shields, but as you progress through the game, you get the weapons and shields you need to win the game. Your build is impressive, and will do a lot of crunching. Holy shades of Tetris, Shamus old chum. And that's almost a line from Batman(60's Batman on TV). Yeah, Next comes cpu cooling for $117.50, then filters(two sets) for $137.43 and then the ram for about $162.87 around December, Repairs costs to this house are next though @ $217.00(2 of 2), 1st payment on repairs was $133.00 or $350.00 total and I've got to take a motherboard, cpu, heatsink, fan, ram and such and kvm/cables to a friend and raise about $290.00 to stay on track here, As after December I will be saving up for 6 months for a house that I'm watching as I need at least 3%(technically I only need 1% down, But I want lower payments as taxes and house insurance will be included and If I get anything for this place It will be less than $5,000.00 most likely as by June 2011 I'll ask the park manager to get in touch with the owner and ask them to make Me an offer, So that I can get out of here. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Ok I revised My plan some, I found a Northbridge kit to watercool the motherboard, So instead of a premade cooler, It means a do It Myself kit, It'll be the 1st time I've had to purge the system of any air, This list is still subject to editing as I may have overlooked something. Since this applies to both the GTX480 cards and My motherboard, I thought I'd post this here, As It does apply. 20-Koolance Fan, 140x25mm(FAN-14025HBK) Airflow: 91.2CFM(max); Noise: 36.3dBA(max) 3-Bitpower EVGA GTX480 cards 5-Black Ice® SR1 560 Radiator Series 40' 5/8"ID tubing 8' 1/2"ID tubing 15' 3/8"ID tubing 40' of anti kink wrap 5/8" 8' of anti kink wrap 1/2" 15' of anti kink wrap 3/8" 2-fill ports(clamps-1ea) 2-drains ports(clamps-1ea) 4-1/2"ID to 1/2"ID Y connectors(clamps-3ea) 6-1/2"ID to 3/8"ID Y reducer fittings(clamps-3ea) 4-5/8"ID to 1/2"ID inline reducers(clamps-2ea) 2-1/2"ID to 3/8"ID inline reducers(clamps-2ea) 6-compact right angle nozzles(clamps-1ea)[Video cards only, so far] 68-clamps 4-Quick Disconnect couplers(5/8"ID compatible) EK-FB ASUS P7P55D Full Board Northbridge Water Block; PLEXI Fitting Size; Barb for 3/8"ID tube EK-Supreme HF High Flow CPU Water Block; FULL COPPER+NICKEL; Fitting Size; Barb for 3/8"ID tube 2-Innovatek Eheim HPPS i High Power 12V Water Pumps 2-Innovatek Tank-O-Matic - External Reservoirs Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Oh and speaking of the Rads, Here's a shelf that I made a while back, It's not long or wide enough for four or five 560x140 Rads, So I'll have to get a larger piece of plywood as this one is about 24" long on top, underneath It's 20.75", So It should be about another 6" to 12" long along the front as the Rads are about 24" long and about 6" wide, Plus It would be 42" deep If I made It 3' wide, I might make It 5' long instead and maybe 24" deep. I had a thought on the Rads, Instead of 4 of them for the 3 GTX480 cards(Maybe), I'll put one on the cpu loop instead, May as well, As I like to overclock, So It won't hurt any. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
An update before I forget this: The shelf may have a size of 48"x24", As It will(should) hold 5 Rads, 2 Reservoirs and 2 1046 pumps, The pictured shelf is 3/4" thick plywood and It's not the least expensive junk(ACX I think), I'd bought some cheap stuff and It wasn't too sturdy, It was about 50" long, But only 18" Deep after I'd had It cut down from a larger Quarter Sheet(48"x24"), But since It's too small and I can find It(I looked) I'll have to get a better piece instead. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Ok so I may roll My own GTX470 cards to split up the cost(ala Steve), Get three plain GTX470 cards after buying the three 470 blocks, As the 470 blocks can be found for as little as 108 each(Koolance), the cards? about $345 each(PNY so far), Much easier for Me to bite off, 1st the car(A/C), psu(1600w), 4GB DDR3 ram, 2 tires and a few rads, then the blocks, then the cards and then the hoses and such(I'm cooling the nb and the power chips with water too), But this will take some time(about a couple years or so, As I'm also trying to save up $2000 for a house too). Now if only H.R. 4937, The SSI Savers Act of 2010 will get out of the house ways and means committee, Then in 18 months I could have almost $5,000.00 all saved up, Oh well, I'll just have to keep to My schedule, As I have the time(all the time I need in fact).:D And yeah I have My finances in order, But then I paid all My bills today, did My shopping, I'm pretty much done now for June, Now I just need to wait for My eggs and the final repair to the house(If the guy wants His $217 that is). Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Oh now here's a GTX470 I'd love to have three of: http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/26717/ Not to mention water cooled with a Koolance Water block, But alas so far It's just a prototype, That hopefully will become a real card. Overclockers wrote: The card is a monster at 12 inches long and it requires two 8 pin PCI-e connectors. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
I think I need a bigger case to fit 5 or 6 of those monsters. Your planning for this build is admirable. You seem to have most details all planned and budgeted out. Not bad.....:) Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I think I need a bigger case to fit 5 or 6 of those monsters. Yeah, But that goes to My financial planning, I should spend some money on 3 new windows and some work on the houses doors(I cut out anything not needed and cut services to the bone so I could squeeze out about $282.81 a month, water cooling has saved some money on electrical I think), But that's almost as expensive as 3 GTX470 cards, Just getting 5 radiators(TFC Monsta Lite 420/360 Rads) will take a few months and so will getting 3 air cooled cards(I know of 3 places that sell these Rads, One is known already, The other two I'm keeping quiet about as that would hurt My prospects of getting 5 of them), the koolance water blocks come before the cards as they cool even the voltage regulators and are about $108 each. Here's triple SLI the Koolance way Steve(Notice no Y's needed): VID-NX480 (GTX 480) Triple-SLI Video Review by Trubritar and yes this can be done with the 470 too. Galaxy Dual GPU GTX 470 Spotted(May be two GTX465 chips) Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
You got me thinking. Those in series fittings on the video were excellent. I had no idea when I planned out my system, that you could get away with running the water blocks in series. I planned the most agressive outcome for the largest amount of heat I could imagine. Seeing this, and looking at my own cooling results, makes me think that I could run three of these cards with the water hooked up like what is in the video. My nozzles line up the same way, and are reversable. I don't know the performance specs on my water blocks, but they seem very good. The hottest either card sees is 46°C. This might be a cool experiment! Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
To do triple or dual sli with Koolance parts, One needs these parts: 2 to 3 slots gap between cards(adjustable) 1 slot gap between cards(adjustable) So no Y fittings are needed and I'm doing away with 3/8"ID and 5/8"ID parts and just going with just 1/2"ID parts only. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
I agree. This is a really interesting bit of information. I just thought of a possible issue. I need find a water block that has an output on one side like the Koolance and my water blocks, and an input coming directly into the edge of the card, like you depicted in one of your posts in the GTX 480 and water cooling thread. That would be the only way I could deal with the lowest hose. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
You got me thinking. Those in series fittings on the video were excellent. I had no idea when I planned out my system, that you could get away with running the water blocks in series. I planned the most agressive outcome for the largest amount of heat I could imagine. Seeing this, and looking at my own cooling results, makes me think that I could run three of these cards with the water hooked up like what is in the video. My nozzles line up the same way, and are reversable. I don't know the performance specs on my water blocks, but they seem very good. The hottest either card sees is 46°C. This might be a cool experiment! Yeah the video opened My eyes too, I'm thinking I may only need 3 Rads(3x140mm) for the video and 1 or 2 Rads(3x120mm(Swiftech w/a built in Reservoir) and maybe a 3x140mm(Monsta Lite)) for the cpu and motherboard(voltage regulators, chipset and cpu), I could even cool the ram, But I think that air cooling may be enough for that already. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Yesterday when I saw the video you posted, I had the sound off as my wife was watching TV. I started thinking about it, and even had dreams about different hook ups. Given the card to card nozzles, I could fit three cards in my case. They would be in parallel, not series, but one thing comes to mind. From my experience you would get best results by using Y connectors on the radiators, and using a straight shot of fast moving fluid past the water blocks. That would give you maximum cooling of the fluid, and the water blocks. The nozzle to nozzle configuration does the opposite, by moving the fluid quickly through the radiators, and slowly across the water blocks. This thing is that that might work. There is enough head room, where any increase in temperature might still be way under spec. It is beginning to sound like a good experiment. I wonder how these Eheim pumps would respond to a rheostat. If they worked, then you could ad a powerful pump, and fine tune the flow of a system to optimize cooling. Then as with electronics in using a decade box and then fixed resistors, you could measure the optimal flow, and replace the rheostat and power pump with a pump that has the correct flow characteristics. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66218 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Yesterday when I saw the video you posted, I had the sound off as my wife was watching TV. I started thinking about it, and even had dreams about different hook ups. Given the card to card nozzles, I could fit three cards in my case. They would be in parallel, not series, but one thing comes to mind. From my experience you would get best results by using Y connectors on the radiators, and using a straight shot of fast moving fluid past the water blocks. That would give you maximum cooling of the fluid, and the water blocks. The nozzle to nozzle configuration does the opposite, by moving the fluid quickly through the radiators, and slowly across the water blocks. This thing is that that might work. You may have already seen this, But... I'm looking at a motherboard that has lots of pci-e slots from EVGA, Technically EVGA says It's Classified, But Here's a picture anyway: Just imagine 6 water cooled GTX470 cards(25A*6=150A), The 200 motherboard has a 1-1x slot, 1-4x slot(physically looks 16x) and 5-16x slots, Problem is, I'm thinking I'd have to use a case that can hold two psus and the Corsair Obsidian 700D/800D does not do this, So far only the HAF-932 that I have does this and only barely... I have the cash to spend(Just not right now, too many other important things to get done It seems, sigh), Besides the case needs modifying so that I can have 4 hoses exit the case. The two psu? Lets see either a 1600w or a 1500w for the main one and a 950w Corsair psu, Thankfully I've got a good enough case, It's too bad that the Corsair cases can't do what I need It to do and Corsair may not care for two psus in a case, So I have to put up with a cheaper imitation of the 700D/800D, The HAF-932. Also I found this just for You and maybe Me, Who knows, It's a MagiCool XTREME NOVA 1080 Radiator and It uses 9 120mm fans. Oh and the Rad above only costs $150 before shipping. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6657 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Now that's a cool radiator! I checked out the EVGA Classified before I settled on the Rampage 2 Extreme. The only thing that stopped me was it wouldn't fit in the case I had. Since I had just bought the case, with the computer last August, I opted to use something that wouldn't look like I just threw out a whole bunch of money for nothing. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
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